Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Hisaronu Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Sleuth on March 03, 2017, 16:22:09 PM
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Apart from the Russians returning... ( Antalya, Side, mainly ) the rest of Mugla area looks like being worse ( quieter) than 2016 :-( German bookings are reputedly 60% down on last year... and I read UK bookings are very poor again.... the usual regulars of course will return, but no fresh faces.
Turkish visitors will increase I read, ok for trips and hotels, but not for bars and restaurants and shops .
After the dismal season last year one wonders if many can suffer a `back to back` bad season .
When you read in the turkish press 350 isis suspected militants arrested in Turkey already this year .. no wonder bookings are down again...
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German bookings are reputedly 60% down on last year... and I read UK bookings are very poor again.... the usual regulars of course will return, but no fresh faces.
German bookings are, according to a German market research company, 58% down to Turkey and 67% up to Greece. Tui have increased their capacity to Greece (from Germany) by 40%.
JF
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Looking on the bright side there should be plenty of sun loungers without towels on them. 8)
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There are quite a few people on T.A. Asking about accommodaiton and most of them are Brits. Also The Buzz Beach, new hotel seems to be getting advanced bookings.
Fingers crossed, it may turn out O.K. I feel sorry for the local businesses who have done nothing wrong and are suffering from the bad publicity for the Cities in Turkey. I hope we will all support them and give them good feedback.
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I don't think I recall an upcoming season that wasn't supposed to be dire. Don't worry though, all the hotels and most of the restaurants are still here :)
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With the use of Turkonomics, they're bound to have a good year. :)
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The cost of holidays worldwide are extortionate but Turkish holidays appear to be the best option so I'm sure people will come. The boom of previous years has gone though. Some hotels in Calis are already fully booked. The recent referendum result will have an effect on bookings but I just hope it's a good season for everyone.
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Problem is for a lot of people, like us, flights are so expensive. I just had an email from Jet 2 for £200.00 off holidays. I looked at the return flight for us from Glasgow and they were coming up at £663.00 and this is just flights and before we book any extras.
Also it means for us a 3 hour journey to get to Glasgow.
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Plenty of good priced direct return flights available from Manchester for May starting at £117.
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I have booked with Turkish airlines for May (Manchester) and August/September (Edinburgh) the Edinburgh flights where nearly £300 pound cheaper that's without the free meals, drinks and entertainment. Parking at Edinburgh was £64 for 16 days the closest airports for me are Leeds/Bradford and Newcastle but an extra 1 1/2 hours driving is a price worth paying also the flight times are better the only down side is having to change at Istanbul but this time we will try one of the lounges out
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Plenty of good priced direct return flights available from Manchester for May starting at £117.
Yes we tried that last year. Never again. If I ever see Manchester Airport again, it will be too soon. Also have to add on all the costs to travel from Aberdeenshire. ;)
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our flights out on the 8th and back on the 15th were both full so tourists going somewhere
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As it's been mentioned there are lots of cheap flights around but what about accommodation?
With the new rules surrounding short term renting, private places will surely be more illusive this year.
I know of people who have contacted their potential renters and cancelled there booking. A lot of people will be doing this if the proposed laws are finally settled as it will not really be worth the hassle.
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Just saw images and read a story on "Turkey's For Life". They are in Bodrum and the beach is packed and they say all the Hotels are busy.
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Yes we came back to Dalaman on the 21st. the plane was full.
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Plenty of people about these sides
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well i love olu deniz but looking at feurteventura on 26th october any ideas for turkey same time
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I have been to Fuerteventura. Volcanic Island, fine around the coasts, but would not be rushing back there.
Loads of ideas for Turkey for the same time, Oludeniz is a lovely resort. Try Calis next time.
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Calis in October/November ?
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Calis in October/November ?
Should be able to catch the Air Games in the last week of October. Most of the regular UK bound flights from Dalaman finish around the first week of November.
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Yes we came back to Dalaman on the 21st. the plane was full.
I think many have cut capacity so planes will be full and prices won't be cheap.
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Very few flights from Newcastle this year and those they have are crazy prices.We are flying from Manchester this year as it's almost half the price.
What's up with Manchester,it's ten years since we've flown from there?
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In my opinion Manchester is far better than it was 10 years ago.
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Shhhhhh ....... Her Maj won't be able to resist disagreeing with you. ;)
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Shhhhhh ....... Her Maj won't be able to resist disagreeing with correcting you. ;)
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Hardly surprising at these prices. I was looking to stay for two weeks not put down a deposit to buy it.
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I am sure you will find something John and glad to see you looking to come out again this year. I really don't care what airport anyone comes from, just glad to see members coming out. Isn't that what we all want? Why else would we be members??
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Just printed boarding passes for friends of ours following a Monarch email to print out their boarding passes for the Gatwick to Dalaman flight ist June... I scrolled down and found only 25 Seats not booked out of 197 seats on the plane seems like things are looking up .where are they all going that is the question....... Calis !! I hope to help boost visitor numbers 8)
They booked a long time ago paid £334 total with extra legroom seats.23 kg hold bags each and 10 kg hand cabin baggage. todays cost is £486 total £152 saving :P
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Don't forget that Dalaman also serves the package holidays to Dalyan, Bodrum, Marmaris etc. so it's possible that the entire plane load could be going to one of those resorts.
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Our Turkish neighbour and her husband come from some other place in Turkey to run two establishments in hisaronu. She said this morning it was still quiet, it's only a week in, but she hoped the British tourists would come back this season. She said it was the Turks that kept most people in business last season,visiting during Byram etc. Hope the season picks up this year in all resorts. :)
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We know quite a few people who are going back to Turkey this year.As far as Calis goes ,it still has its regulars and it's still a case of once bitten forever smitten.
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Not Quite On Topic but I think its Ramadam when were in Calis in June ,so looks like Large G & T ,s / Effes ect ect out of a tea pots and cups again in the bars >:( looks like time to stock up at Rambos shop ;D
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We have visited during Ramadam, No difference to tourists, bars and restaurants all open. The only time we cold not get alcohol was one day when an election was on.
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Just been on the Sensatori site and it looks like they are busy this month. Lots of peeps going out again having been before.
Hope they get out and see Fethiye, etc.
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Were just back from our first trip of the year, the nights we went out we didnt see any where busy, one place we went for dinner the beers were 13 tl and we were told not in a horrible way at all but could we order our food by 8 as the chef was going home as no point him staying as no customers! We went for a day to Nevada hotel and got chatting to a couple who said they were the only guests staying there, though they had only just opened for season...we had booked a night at the Pelin and on arrival found it to be shut with an old guy looking rather bewildered at us turning up we were redirected to the Jasmine again hardly anyone staying there...Now the Jiva beach we stayed there 2 nights and it was very busy with all nationalities what a didference at Jiva to rest of places...spoke to a chap there who had only paid £350 ish each including flights for 10 days and i have to say every time we stay at Jiva we like it more and more, would not want to do 2 weeks but if we ever decided to sell up the Jiva would be our first choice to stay price depending :)
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A few observations if may....
1. It is early on the season
2. How did the chef know that there would be no customers after 8 - if I turned up at that restaurant at 8:20 and was told that the chef had gone home, I certainly wouldn't go back there (been there got that t-shirt :).
£ 350 all-inclusive for 10 days at Jiva is one helluva deal ???
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I totally agree H it is only just the start of the season so im sure things will pick up i really hope so :)
We thought the same re the place that ( I wont name them as Im sure it really was because theyv had no customers of an evening for so long and to be fair the guy was apologetic though his parting comment of " better food next time" was probably not the best choice of words"!
It was like a different world at Jiva we really were like where have all these people come from!
The couple we were talking to at Nevada normally go to Marmaris it was their first time in Calis and it was great to hear that they liked the area and werent put off by being the only ones there,they were just desperate for other folk to talk to :)
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Seems I got it wrong :-) Hisaronu certainly looks and feels busier so far ... even late April there were more people than usual around... so indications are that this season will be better than last :-)
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Been looking at dalaman airport arrivals for the past week UK Flights were mainly Thomas cook & easy jet. first part of the week But in the past 3 days lots more uk other flights coming in , how ever lots of german / Russian / Amsterdam flights have been landing for a couple of weeks.
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Jet2, Thomson and Monarch also flying into Dalaman.
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Strange how when the Jiva was built many of us (me included) expected it to be rubbish - what with being built on a swamp. Just shows what we know ;)
Same with the Sensatori - too far out - too expensive - but they are both going from strength to strength as far as I can tell.
I expect the hotels to pick up even more once people realise they can't let friends stay in their homes without registering as a business.
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I would prefer the B.&.B's to get the business then at least tourists will go and eat out. Remote A.I places like the Sensatori keep their customers inside.
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I would prefer the B.&.B's to get the business then at least tourists will go and eat out. Remote A.I places like the Sensatori keep their customers inside.
Not sure that's strictly true :)
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I totally agree with what you posted Stoop, me too I remember 'scoffing' re Jiva when it was being built and never imagined loving it how we do now...I couldnt do two weeks of all in at this stage of my life but in our 'twighlight" years when we dont want the responsibility of owning a property anymore and i want to be waited on etc then Jiva will be perfect for that...obviously the price goes up the more the season gets underway but at £24 each per day/ night then the value for money was amazing...the food choices they have are fab the drinks not watered down though we werent entirely sure it was Efes coming out the pump...i can honestly see why so many families had chosen it for their holiday, when really in the scheme of things Turkey is defo not as value for money like it used to be...im not talking about the fresh produce in the markets etc I mean the rapid increase in alcohol prices etc, i know we all know who is to blame for that dont we!
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I mean the rapid increase in alcohol prices etc, i know we all know who is to blame for that dont we!
Mr & Mrs Scunner and the Scunnerettes ?
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Re Monarch flights - when we tried booking with Monarch last year for our holiday nowe, we were told Monarch were not starting flights until 20 May.
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Jiva does seem to attract customers who do go out for a meal because it is not far to go.
I read on another Forum someone askng how much money they needed to go the the Sensatori and they were told by a guy who was staying there he only bought a newspaper every day and had never left the site as there would be no reason too.
I also read the Belek & Antalya Forums on T.A. The people there only go to stay in the A.I. Hotels they do not go out. One said they love to be pampered for two weeks and there is nothing to go out for. All they every write about is the luxury Hotels and nothing about the local area. I would hate our area to be like this. :'(
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I think I'd enjoy a stay there, but I couldn't limit myself to never going out elsewhere, that's the beauty of the whole area, so many places to try and enjoy. Probably why we came back for so many years. We stayed everywhere quite economically but mixed in a tiny bit of luxury each time.
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Ha ha that has given me a much needed chuckle KKOB ;)No not Mr and Mrs Scunner and the Scunnerettes he who has put the tax up on alcohol didnt want to put his name incase I have to go straight to jail and not collect £200 on the way ;)
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Trust me they go out! I'm one of the few not barred from the Sensatori page on FB and can confirm many go to Fethiye shopping for their dream handbags, etc ;)
They might not eat out much (why would you?) but I know some do because I've been asked for restaurant reccs in the past.
Yes it's a place you might just relax in for a week or two but not everyone does that. I've seen guests getting on the Dolmus when we've ridden past.
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Sorry Stoop, The occasionally trip out, it not the same as staying at a B.&.B. Going out every day and using the local restaurants.
If people pay for A.I they are not going to pay to eat out elsewhere every night.
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At the end of the day, if folks want AI then that's what they'll book. I suspect the majority look at the hotel and facilities first and the surrounding area second - if the Fethiye area didn't provide AI hotels then the business would be lost to Antalya, Marmaris etc.
It's all about choice...
JF
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"Trying to arrange a boat trip to Ola deniz with the guy down on the beach for either this wednesday or thursday and we need 6 more people to fill the boat.Anyone intetested in jpining us please get in touch.It will leave at 9.00 am sail to the edge of the Blue Lagoon in Ola Deniz where there will be two hours at your own leisure and then sail back to he hotel.The price for the trip will be £300.00 divided by how ever many of us there are so if 6 more people join us it will be £25.00 per person"
From their FB page today. Ok it's only a few peeps for a few hours (and damn expensive if you ask me) but it proves they do support the local economy to a degree.
I'd expect a lot for £25 but then I'm half Yorkshire, half Scottish ;)
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Sorry Stoop, The occasionally trip out, it not the same as staying at a B.&.B. Going out every day and using the local restaurants.
If people pay for A.I they are not going to pay to eat out elsewhere every night.
Yes Jacqui but your argument has always been that they bring nothing to the local economy as they never leave the hotel.
You can hardly expect them to eat out every night I agree - but they do benefit the local area in other ways.
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I must admit we book some of our holiday in a A I, mainly down to cost the all inclusive deals that are around, we still do go out for a few meals but not every night probably about 50/50, and usually go back to the hotel for a a few drinks in the evening as its the cost of alcohol that makes Turkey expensive. If your out every night it mounts up we had a shock a few years ago when we worked out how much we spent in 16 days in Dalyan staying bed and breakfast.
That said if there were not AI hotels we would still go to Olu Deniz just as we still go to Dalyan where there are no AI hotels, chances are though we may not go as regularly as we do now.
We have usually booked our October week by now but are holding off as the amount of last minute deals around are amazing , we have already seen the flights we have for may are less than half what we paid a few months ago. One travel agent had a week in Oludeniz for £98 including flights last weekend for this week.
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Fethiye very busy today with Tourists. Many of them sound British.
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Hisaronu was very busy,. Lots of holidaymakers about all up to my turning at the new mosque. Must have got the shock of their Ives when the weather changed and a really chill wind with a shower came along. All them skimpy outfits.. ;D ;D
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It appears to be busier than this time last year here in Hisaronu..... although its slightly deceiving ... because there are far too many bars, restaurants, gift shops, shoe, watches, sunglasses etc shops in the area, some are busy and some ( most) are deserted . Its only early May but that scenario will continue throughout the season...as it always does here. Many will close again, only to open again by new owners next year who haven`t researched the area.. and so it goes on ,, :o
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First week of the season in Hisaronu looked and was encouraging... number of UK visitors... but since then there`s been a dramatic turn a round...now its fairly deserted day and night time by late May standards... Apparantly the planes are full but I was told that 90% of occupants are off to Marmaris ?
What is noticable here in Hisaronu already though is the big increase in visiting Turks..... things are changing...
and why not ?
It is there country after all lol
Is it the same scenario over in Calis and elsewhere along the coast ?
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Calis is not busy at the moment. Restaurant and prom last night at 9.30pm where vey quiet. We were in Bella Mamas at 9.30pm and there were only 3 tables of people. At 10.30pm shops where closing. However it is early in the season. Hopefully it wil pick up when the kids are on holiday. We have spoken to a few restaurant owners who told us that even though the planes are full, they are not all coming to Calis. One owner told us that the Jiva Beach IS. full and the vistors walk passed his restaurant, when he tell them to look at the menu they show him their wrist bands.
We spoke to Edi from the Silver Shop. He said business is not good and was bad last year too. We suggested it could get better as the season had just started. He told us he had to find £8.000 a year rent.
I was really disappointed to see that clothes shop just up from the Meeting Point had gone. They always used to put a block colour of dresses outside. One day blue, one day pink etc., It was a lovely shop. I bought a few things in there. I was planning to buy more this year.
Adem is still around, again, he said business was not good. The Flower Man Willie Thorne just sits outside Dawn Beach now. He greeted us like long lost relatives, even kisses for Phil. His flowers are now 15TL A bunch and still a bargain. I filled two vases with them. Did not see the Gypsy woman. Or Hassan the Video Guy and no sign of the Deaf & Dumb people. The guys that sell all the light up toys have not arrived yet either.
Spoke to a lovely Turkish couple running a stall in the Market yesterday, Phil was buying a couple of polo shirts. They said they had had a shop in Fethiye, but last year had to give it up as visitor numbers where down. They just do the markets now. We then spoke to a guy that sold Sunglasses etc., he also said he could not afford a shop anymore. The Market was busy with fruit and veg etc., but the clothing, bag side was very quiet.
Kursat at Safir has taken on one more member of staff to do the polishing, so he seems to be doing O.K. Did a lovely job of on my Grandmother's old gold bracelet, thickening up the fastener which is a little heart. Really put a good thickness of gold on it and cleaned it like new. All for 25TL.
We were saying that Calis and Fethiye need publicity, everyone knows about Marmaris, Bodrum, Side. However, when we tell people in the U.K where we are going, no one has heard of Fethiye or Calis. We have explained this to the business owners, some are very surprised that Calis is not know in the U.K. I think it is time for some Marketing.
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Just starting into the 3rd week of our holiday, I thought the first week was busier than last year but Mrs B disagrees with me (now there's a surprise) But last week was quieter. We are next door to the Letoon and they were fairly busy at the weekend but it was all Turkish people. They have all gone now and it looks deserted.
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There must be lots of places like Calis/Fethiye in various countries that do very well from tourism by the very fact that they are not heavily advertised.
Just look how Fethiye has been transformed over the last few years.
We like Calis for what it is and if we wanted what Marmaris offered we would go there.
Selfishly, I don't want the area to have huge amounts of tourist. I'm happy for them to go to Marmaris.
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Oludeniz is mentioned and there's a picture of the lagoon in an article in the Daily Fail today but they're pushing holidays in the whole Eastern Med.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-4439872/Why-holiday-eastern-Med.html
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There must be lots of places like Calis/Fethiye in various countries that do very well from tourism by the very fact that they are not heavily advertised.
Just look how Fethiye has been transformed over the last few years.
We like Calis for what it is and if we wanted what Marmaris offered we would go there.
Selfishly, I don't want the area to have huge amounts of tourist. I'm happy for them to go to Marmaris.
I agree, I do not want Calis to be Marmaris, but I think Calis wil always be a quieter families and couples resort. However, we cannot ignore it when businesses are complaining and worrying about lack of customer and we are now seeing businesses closing. Advertising would not change Calis it would just bring much needed tourists.
Calis is not over advertised, it is not advertised at all, which is why everyone we speak to in the U.K has never heard of it. Couples and Families would love Calis, if they got the chance to hear about it.
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Its a shame the clothes shop has gone, they always had really good colour displays and nice clothes. Guess we will have to start eating earlier in the restaurants when we are over there. We prefer to eat 9.30/10pm but found the last time we were there the restaurants were almost empty at that time.
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In addition to the comment from KKOB regarding the Daily Fail, the one in the Daily Mirror this morning specifies the resort as Marmaris, but has a picture of Olu Deniz to go with it.
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Its a shame the clothes shop has gone, they always had really good colour displays and nice clothes. Guess we will have to start eating earlier in the restaurants when we are over there. We prefer to eat 9.30/10pm but found the last time we were there the restaurants were almost empty at that time.
The owner of the clothes shop has another shop in Fethiye,In the street where the Cinema is,in fact almost opposite in on a corner, he told us that this year he could not afford to keep the Calis shop open and that he did like the comments about his very colourful displays
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Its a shame the clothes shop has gone, they always had really good colour displays and nice clothes. Guess we will have to start eating earlier in the restaurants when we are over there. We prefer to eat 9.30/10pm but found the last time we were there the restaurants were almost empty at that time.
The owner of the clothes shop has another shop in Fethiye,In the street where the Cinema is,in fact almost opposite in on a corner, he told us that this year he could not afford to keep the Calis shop open and that he did like the comments about his very colourful displays
Thanks George, his dresses are ideal for holiday packing as they are so light and so crease proof. Will pop over for a look. Any idea of the name of the shop? However, I am sure I will see the display outside. I remember my Sister in Law buying a dress from him and he had it altered for her for free. Nice guy. Calis will miss his shop.
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In addition to the comment from KKOB regarding the Daily Fail, the one in the Daily Mirror this morning specifies the resort as Marmaris, but has a picture of Olu Deniz to go with it.
Saw this on Facebook need more articles like this.. Link below
https://www.facebook.com/gocekturkey/photos/a.537930159719474.1073741828.537660716413085/731283647050790/?type=3
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The guys that sell the light up toys are around, as we bought a few from them. Every time they saw my grandson they switched all the toys on, caught his attention and that was it. Saw the flower seller in quite a few restaurants as well.
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We have been down five times around 9.30pm to eat have not seen the toy guys and we had to go to the Dawn Beach to see the flower seller, as we were looking for him each night. When we asked in one restaurant we were told that Willie Thorne is finding it difficult to carry the flowers around now, but we can always get him at his pitch at Dawn Beach. We will look out for him next week when I need my next flower fix. What time do you see him around the restaurants? perhaps he does not go too far. George's told us they never see him now.
Have not seen the boys with the scales yet.
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Im not surprised at all re everyone seems to be going to Marmaris.I have been looking for a cheap week away week after next and there were just so many holidays ( in the scheme of things good prices, its been so long since I booked a package holiday, I was genuinely shocked by the cost of some) for Marmaris, I know folk werent going there cos of the troubles etc, I recall seeing pics of empty beaches, if your looking for just a cheap deal and not to bothered which part of Turkey it is then I guess youl opt for one of the Marmaris bargains.
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Having just returned from 5 days in Marmaris l can fully understand some of the cheap packages that are available. The place is empty, we usually visit this time of year, but l have never seen it sooooooo quiet. A lot of the hotels are closed, even on the seafront and we were told they wont be opening unit mid June/July. Its very sad as Marmaris council have spent a lot of money in upgrading the place in tbe past few years and its a really nice resort now and immaculatly clean,
but l think this year will be even worse than last for many of the resort,
Sharon
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Why not take a small risk book a airtours package from [ various airports ] , B/B to marmaris in early june @ £131 each 14 nights b/b quite good flights includes 15 kg bags each [ with transfers ill add ] click on no free transfers ==Then go off to Calis area for the holiday, this way its so cheap re the airfares which are around £200
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What would the small risk be, Blueclad?
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The small risk could be that IF the hotel rep finds out your not at the package booked hotel could not your return flight tickets be revoked?
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You just have to tell the reps on arrival at the airport that you won't be using the hotel. It happens regularly, but they need to know incase of emergencies or queries.
(I've heard, though not had it confirmed, that the reps will sometimes sell the use of your room to a friend for the duration of the holiday.)
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Thanks Blueclad. I have often thought about doing this when we had property in Calis but wondered what would happen if you didn't turn up at the accommodation. My daughter and her husband did it but arrived with the tour company, took several meals at the accommodation but stayed in our apartment! Win win all round. :)
If someone else can get use of the room, another win, win.
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In Ovacik, Kayakoy and Hisaronu today. Very quiet. We were the only ones in the Istanbul Restaurant in Kaya. Although we saw people staying at the bungalows and sunbathing. Only one waiter who was also preparing the food. Noted no customers in any other restaurants including the Levissi.
Hisaronu was deserted, restaurants empty as was Ovacik. I do hope it will get better as the season goes on.
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The small risk could be that IF the hotel rep finds out your not at the package booked hotel could not your return flight tickets be revoked?
I just wonder is there a "bigger" risk under the new security regulations. Just a thought.
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Shouldn't be, I think they register with the passports they take first night - no show no passport
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We have been down five times around 9.30pm to eat have not seen the toy guys and we had to go to the Dawn Beach to see the flower seller, as we were looking for him each night. When we asked in one restaurant we were told that Willie Thorne is finding it difficult to carry the flowers around now, but we can always get him at his pitch at Dawn Beach. We will look out for him next week when I need my next flower fix. What time do you see him around the restaurants? perhaps he does not go too far. George's told us they never see him now.
Have not seen the boys with the scales yet.
Because we had a two year old with us we ate out early, saw him down by the Lukka bar and on the front. The toy men we saw most nights
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Wow Blueclad thank you for that, that is a great idea, not because im desperate to go to Marmaris but iv never been and have heard that there is some lovely scenery there...we could book a holiday and maybe stay a week or whatever and then head to Calis...my lovely hubby retires end of week so we are going to have more of that precious thing called time...We both have medical apointments mid June hence why we were just going to go to Benidorm or somewhere with short flight before Calis.... :)
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We just arrived back from a 2 day AI break at Sun City Hotel Hisaronu...... May 2016 only 70% occupants...... May 2017 down to 40% .. and yes Hisaronu and Ovacik very quiet..... quieter than last year even ???
So what was all that talk in the press .. English and Turkish.. about UK visitors on the increase this year ? it cant be true
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Woops, mean`t Sun City Hotel in Olu Deniz of course
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We were back in Ovacik and Hisaronu yesterday, for an appointment with Goldfinger. The Manager was saying that he has plenty of Weddings lined up for the coming year and had a big one coming in on Friday (today).
Although he did say there were less tourists this year up to now. We and one other lady, were the only ones in there for around 1.30hours. However, had wonderful attention and they have a great new hairdresser, I was very pleased with my hair.
We went down to Hisaronu to visit our favourite shop Anadolu el Sanatiari. Love that shop, beautiful things in there and the brother and sister owners are such nice people. Never miss that place and they have some lovely new stock in. They did tell us up to now they are doing well and always get return business every year. I know this is because their shop is unique in Hisaronu.
We did note that Hisaronu, again was quiet and there was more hassle than usual, every place we went pased wanted to give us a brochure or ask us to come in. We were polite to them all, as they must be worried.
Had a really nice lunch and it was very cheap.
I hope the situation improves over the year. I know speaking to so people they are hoping for last minute bookings.
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We had a lovely meal tonight at the White man Restaurant in Hisaronu tonight, then had a walk through the centre , ,it was about 10 of clock , it was quite pitiful, the place was deserted almost.,,,sadly it seems to be dying.. another bad season it seems :-(
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Tourist numbers showing an increase for the month of April. :)
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/foreign-tourist-arrivals-to-turkey-rise-18-pct-in-april-after-months-in-doldrums-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=113704&NewsCatID=349
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Unfortunately numbers from Europe still down - major increase is Russians, who traditionally head for Alanya and Antalya.
JF
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We ate at Nil last Thursday and it was full. Admittedly it was quiz night.
We saw both the flower man and toy man plus Adem.
The front seemed quite busy with walkers but I can't be sure if other bars were as busy.
Things seem a little quieter this week but I think Ramadam is affecting daytime business for many.
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We flew back into Dalaman on Monday evening with EasyJet plane was packed but only ten on our shared transfer to Calis area
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Have seen the Flower man most nights now, have bought off him three times and also seen Adem every night. However, Adem is complaining there is no business for him. The Gypsy woman has not been around, there was a very elderly gypsy selling flowers last night. Also see the guy with the light up toys. No deaf and dumb sellers though.
This week has been very quiet with restaurants not fully, Meeting point a few nights ago ony had 3 tables full at 9.00pm. I have never seen the Meeting Point like that. The shops in the Main Street are empty too. Edi at the Silver Shop was telling us business was dire.
I really hope it will pick up for the school holidays. I hate to see Calis like this.
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I have been here in Fethiye two days, I have now spoken to a car rental company, restauranteur, barber, hotel and shop keeper, all of whom I have known for many years, and all are saying the same thing, this is the worst start to a season they have ever experienced. I hope I am wrong, but I feel this could be a defining season for many business's that rely on the tourist trade.
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Spoke to someone who drove to Saklkent with his wife yesterday, they were the only two people there.
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That's sad as by this time usually it's staring to get busy. Hard on all shop/bar/hoteliers/restaurant owners. Hope it's just late in getting going.
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We were out in Calis last Friday night. There were people eating in most places along front. The new bar between nil bar and bamboo was packed and we only just managed to get a seat. Things are not as good as recent years, but not as dire as some reports make out.
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What is that bar Chris?
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Laika. It's been built on the frontage of Azure Properties
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Information from people who have ate at the Laika, the food
and service is good.
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Went to mud baths it was very busy, not height of season busy, in hisaronu last night, alot of bars with people in,alot without. People about though that's the main thing,although bar owners are saying it's slow x Byram soon, and expect there to be alot of Turkish families visiting.
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all are saying the same thing, this is the worst start to a season they have ever experienced.
I don't think, in all the years of visiting Fethiye, I have ever heard the start of a season described (by folks in tourism related businesses) as anything other than bad/poor/worst for X number of years, etc. Very often, while telling me this I'd be getting shown pics of their holiday to Thailand/new 4x4/new boat/new bar/new house and so on.
Last year was a crippler for a lot of small businesses, but by all accounts many have not only survived but managed to refurbish premises, expand existing businesses and even opened new premises.
Maybe we've all got it wrong and Turkonomics does really work :)
JF
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Finally got to eat at Laika this lunchtime. Food very good & different from the norm - no rice chips & salad here ;)- 3 x salad mains: chicken ceasar, spicy chicken & tuna, 4 glasses wine, 3 beers & an iced coffee 140tl. Service good, but not "in your face". Will definitely go again
Most expensive item on the menu 46tl for steak
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Liz, so glad for the good report,we successfully bid for the promise at the Charity Auction without even knowing where it was!
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Their cocktails are very good as well.
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The Sunday market was pretty busy with holidaymakers.
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We have been to 3 Sunday Markets this time. We noted so many people around the food items, but no so many around the clothes and jewellery.
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find that the clothes market on a sunday getting quite expensive and the quality not as good. have tried a few shops in fethiye and found them to be better quality AND CHEAPER.
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Changing the subject... In 18 years of visiting and staying for very long periods here in Hisaronu... we have had to walk through the centre of Hisaronu at 10 ish o`clock the last couple of evenings... not sure if its because there are less people about.. but the noise level coming from the many bars all competing with each other is / was the most horrendous ever we have experienced >:( >:( for at least 300 yards of Bar street... and the average age of most visitors walking around about late fifties ????.... but mindless moronic boom boom rap music blaring out ..blasting your ear drums as you walk through it....MINI MARMARIS`its become....and there are actually restaurants in between the bars ???... how people can sit and eat and talk through that din is beyond me... but they do...thankfully we are off back to the UK today for three months.... I cant even begin to imagine what July and August will be like out here at night....
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I agree it was horrendous. We went to a quiz at fez bar, walking back up was really loud. That was with being sedated by the delicious mud slide cocktails they serve at fez.
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What is that bar Chris?
Thanks Liz. Couldn't remember the name. Had a great night in there but only sampled the liquids.
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Thanks all, might give it a try. There was a restaurant there once before - can't remember the name but it didn't last long as I recall.
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Might be connected - we went to Brothers over a week ago and paid 31.50tl for their three course meal.
Went last night and they've reduced it to 29 lira.
Great value meal as well - both times.