Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Flights, Airlines and Airports => Flights to Dalaman and Turkey, Airlines and Airports => Topic started by: peat on April 03, 2019, 15:10:51 PM
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We flew from edinburgh to dalaman yesterday. When we were in the queue to board there was an announcement that visas had to be shown, either paper copies or electronic copies. The explanation for this was that dalaman no longer offered the facility to purchase visas at the airport. Fortunately we had paper copies and were able to show them but I do not know what would happen if we were unable to prove that we had visas, would we have been allowed to board?
We had not heard of this requirement before and given that this was just half an hour before takeoff there was nothing we could have done about it.
Peat
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When I flew back from Gatwick at the end of January, check in staff asking for proof of visas,residency or citizenship ID.
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No, you wouldn't have been able to board without a visa. If the airline allows passengers to board without a visa, and they are denied entry into Turkey, the airline would be responsible for repatriation on the next available flight at their cost. The same applies to any passengers attempting to fly with insufficient time remaining on their passport before it expires.
Visas are not now available to purchase at ANY Turkish airport.
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When I flew back from Gatwick late January, check in staff were asking for proof of visa, residency or Turkish ID.
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We have never been asked for or visa before boarding but have always had them ready together with flight confirmation.
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You probably will be asked in future H, now that the option to purchase at airports and border crossings has been withdrawn.
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First time in January that I have ever been asked in a lot of years traveling to Turkey.
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I flew from Gatwick yesterday too and the same thing, I had to join a que at check in (with Easyjet) to show my visa, I have residency so had to show that and then got my boarding pass stamped, also had to reshow it all at the gate but on boarding the plane they didn’t want to see my boarding pass...
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Yes. I came through LGW at the weekend and had a copy. There where 4 people without copies and not allowed to board.
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As I said we always carry our Visas with us but I do wonder if the 4 unfortunate people who were not allowed to board were notified by their airline.
We have NOT been advised by our airline.
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I don't think it's up to the airline to inform travellers. If you're travelling anywhere it's up to you to know what's required. It's not as if there's a lack of information available these days.
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Apparently 30 people on an EasyJet flight to Dalaman yesterday were refused boarding.
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As I said we always carry our Visas with us but I do wonder if the 4 unfortunate people who were not allowed to board were notified by their airline.
We have NOT been advised by our airline.
Not looked but my guess is it will say somewhere. I’ll check my easyJet details.
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Important information about your flights:
Liverpool - Dalaman
Apply for your Turkish Visa before you travel. Things you need to know before applying:
• Nationals of 94 countries are able to apply and buy a Turkish Visa online
• You must have a minimum of 6 months validity on your passport
• You must have made a flight booking
• You must have a valid Visa or MasterCard credit card
• To apply, please go to the Republic of Turkey’s Electronic Visa Application System website.
No mention of needing to show it at the airport in hard copy form though.
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Just found this under easyJet latest travel info:
From 29 October 2018, self service e-Visa kiosks and Wi-Fi areas where visitors can apply for an e-Visa on arrival will no longer be available in Turkish airports - you must apply for your e-Visa before you travel.
For further information regarding visa requirments when entering Turkey please visit the following link www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/turkey
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Came back to Dalaman yesterday from Luton and Easyjet staff were checking all E-visas in the Boarding Gate queue. Saw 3 people refused boarding for no visa.
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We were refused boarding LGW 31/3/19 and when we flew via Stansted the following day, weren’t asked for visa etc. To make matters worse, on arrival on Dalaman, the visa application office was open and manned. So annoying!
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We were refused boarding LGW 31/3/19 and when we flew via Stansted the following day, weren’t asked for visa etc. To make matters worse, on arrival on Dalaman, the visa application office was open and manned. So annoying!
This is outrageous!!
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Your proof is your passport,not a bit of paper done on a home printer that could e been tampered with.
I would suggest this is cost cutting in that it prevents people turning up at the other end being refused entry and having to fly home.You do not need a visa until you enter the country.
That said it’s no great difficulty to print a copy and take it.
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I don't think the proof is your passport. And if an airline allows you to fly into a country and that country subsequently refuses you entry because of no visa, the airline has to return you at their expense. How is it cost cutting, and who by?
I flew via the US in the winter to NewZealand and though only transiting, not entering America, had to purchase a visa online and was advised to take a hard copy of this with me. I was asked about this visa at check in at Heathrow.
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Your proof is your passport,not a bit of paper done on a home printer that could e been tampered with.
Your passport is proof of identity. A Visa is an additional document or stamped endorsement indicating that the holder is allowed to enter, leave, or stay for a specified period of time in a country.
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Steve I flew here last week and trust me you have to show your visa at Gatwick.
I have residency but I still had to go to a separate little desk at check in once I had been asked where I was flying to where a chap saw my residency made notes of it and stamped my boarding pass ( still have the boarding pass somewhere il take a pic and try and post it)
There was also some check in desks saying ( this was with Easyjet) along from the normal check in desks that said something along the lines of Turkish sumat maybe they have always said that, I was in a real hurry and stressed as someone had selfishly decided to jump in front of a train that morning and my train was late so check in was a mad rush for me but trust me you Do need to be able to show a copy of your visa I also had to show it all again at the boarding gate though for the first time ever not when I boarded the plane, maybe this is because cabin crew know you won’t be getting on if you’ve not passed the visa checks...
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Your proof is your passport,not a bit of paper done on a home printer that could e been tampered with.
If it was tampered with it wouldn’t tally with the info they hold at Dalaman passport control and you’d still be denied entry, just after the flight rather than just before.
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Don’t know if its worked or not not sure I have ever posted an image on here in all my time of being a member!
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I do not disagree with anyone here and believe you are having to produce a hard copy.
The details of your visa are electronically tied into your passport hence my comments about passport i.e. get to the other end and get turned back because your passport does not show a visa purchased.
My comment regarding tampered with printouts was just to evidence that you could produce anything,get on the plane only to be refused entry.
Why they have started checking at this end when a visa is for entry only and has nothing to do with the airline,is beyond me.
I have always taken a copy of my visa and passport with me.
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It has everything to do with the airline Steve. If a passenger has no visa, or the required 6 months remaining on their passport, and they are refused entry in Turkey, the airline are responsible for repatriating them at the airline's cost.
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It's funny Steve, I travel everywhere with boarding passes in Apple wallet in my phone, or in emails with a code to scan at the airport - even though my wife hates it and needs me to print off a paper boarding pass for her to keep it "real"; yet even from day one, even when we all knew you didn't actually need a printed off copy of the visa, it was the one document I printed off and brought with me.
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As far as I am aware, check in staff in the U.K. cannot see your visa on your passport, it only comes up on the Turkish system once you go to passport control in Turkey. And having a visa is to do with the airline as they have to bear the cost of your return flight if refused entry.
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It's funny Steve, I travel everywhere with boarding passes in Apple wallet in my phone, or in emails with a code to scan at the airport - even though my wife hates it and needs me to print off a paper boarding pass for her to keep it "real"; yet even from day one, even when we all knew you didn't actually need a printed off copy of the visa, it was the one document I printed off and brought with me.
Must admit we are the same, for some reason I've never trusted the electronic visa system.
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Same here. I have always printed a copy. We had this checked for the first time when we went to Turkey at Christmas.
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Not quite sure what all the fuss is about. get a Visa, Show your piece of paper Job Done, no hardship!
Let's face it getting into Turkey is a breeze compared to the States (Certain Airports are insanely stupid to go through immigration (JFK/LGA, O'hare, Jackson and the worst of all Panama City) from my very recent business trip experience.
Accept it or just don't travel!
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try Houston & Atlanta bloody nightmare
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Yes Jackson is Atlanta, bad but noting to beat Panama City International Airport!
Believe me, Istanbul or Dalaman is a breeze!
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we were in dalaman last year and were never asked too show our visas but we had copies of them if we needed to provide them,i reckon when you show your passport at security in dalaman it will show that youve aquired a visa.
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we were in dalaman last year and were never asked too show our visas but we had copies of them if we needed to provide them,i reckon when you show your passport at security in dalaman it will show that youve aquired a visa.
Yes this has been the case for a long time, your passport shows the officer at passport control in Dalaman/Istanbul/Turkey in general, that you have a valid visa. How ever a short while back Turkey announced that you could no longer buy a visa at the turkish airport like you could before, so if you now arrive in Turkey without a valid visa you will be turned away and it will be the flight company who flew you out to get you back to your country of departure.
Soo Airlines, to avoid this hassle, cost, inconvenience are now starting to check if you have a valid visa BEFORE you get on the flight from UK.
IMHO, a VERY sensible thing to do, and i can't see an issue with this, as this falls into line with a lot of countries and their entry restrictions.
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we were in dalaman last year and were never asked too show our visas but we had copies of them if we needed to provide them,i reckon when you show your passport at security in dalaman it will show that youve aquired a visa.
Yes it does. And their computer system, when it's working properly, will bring up every entry and exit over the past 20 years. It records names, DoBs, visa issue dates, entry, exit, and even allows for new passport numbers after renewal. Very Big Brother. ;)
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How ever a short while back Turkey announced that you could no longer buy a visa at the turkish airport like you could before, so if you now arrive in Turkey without a valid visa you will be turned away
True, except according to the member who posted earlier (and was denied boarding), you can still buy it on arrival.
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We returned from a 2 week holiday in the UK on Friday and flew into Dalaman from Manchester airport with Thomas Cook.
We were asked for proof of visa purchase at the check in desk. As we are residents of Turkey, we showed our residency permits (ikamet), they were scrutinised and handed back without any problems.
We spoke to a couple of other passengers in the airport who told us that they had seen a family refused clearance at check-in as they had neither paper or electronic copies of their visas but had stated they had all purchased them. The airport staff in Manchester explained to the family that they were unable to access the Turkish visa system and see any visa purchasing and so needed to see proof of purchase from the passenger.
On arrival at Dalaman, the visa booth was closed and unmanned.
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I believe there are going to a lot more folk turned away from boarding this season for failing to show a copy of their visas, there have been some really horrid comments on various groups on fb about how people should know they should have it etc.
The thing is with this in this day of technology there must be a printer somewhere within uk airports if you have your visa in your email still it wouldn’t hurt for the airline to offer people access to a printer to print if off, it could so easily be sorted.
Iv read about families with children not being able to have their holiday because of this situation must be soo very disappointing and frustrating for all concerned.
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How ever a short while back Turkey announced that you could no longer buy a visa at the turkish airport like you could before, so if you now arrive in Turkey without a valid visa you will be turned away
True, except according to the member who posted earlier (and was denied boarding), you can still buy it on arrival.
Strange since according to the news all evisa kiosks were closed back in October??
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Passengers take all manor of things onto the aeroplane - newspapers, books, hand held devices, food and drink etc. etc.
So what's the problem with taking a paper copy of their visa. ???
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Travelling to a new country (or one you don't know well) I am sure people who will have been told by their travel agent/airline they need a visa will obtain and print it off.
So it may well be people who visit regularly who suddenly realised they don't even ask to see it and stopped printing it off.
And if new visitors weren't told, nothing has changed really with the airlines checking at departure airport - they wouldn't be getting through at the Turkish airport end previously, now it is just happening earlier.
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Ever since they introduced the e-visa I've always printed copies of ours and taken them with us, kept with passports. As yet we've never been asked to produce them but in the event that we do they'll be there. Can't see what the problem is really if it might be the difference between going, or not going, on holiday.
We have friends who are going to Calis and Turkey for the first time this summer. We've told them all about the visa issue and they are quite happy to print theirs off.
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Last June we forgot to take our visas with us, when we landed in Dalaman the security, took our passports disappeared for a couple of minutes came back and waved us through. To this I assume that they can check on the Turkish visa web site that you have a current visa.
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To this I assume that they can check on the Turkish visa web site that you have a current visa.
See reply #36. :)
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Just received the “it’s nearly time to fly to Dalaman email from easyJet. Section on ‘Important Information ‘ for travelling to Dalaman.
No mention of needing to print off your visa. In fact, no mention that you even need a visa.
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Just received the “it’s nearly time to fly to Dalaman email from easyJet. Section on ‘Important Information ‘ for travelling to Dalaman.
No mention of needing to print off your visa. In fact, no mention that you even need a visa.
Different on my QueasyJet Important info........
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We flew from Edinburgh on tuesday,no one at the airport asked for a visa and it was the same in Dalaman. At Edinburgh before boarding they announced a visa was needed but there was no check.
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Text message from easyJet
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STILL not giving accurate information about being prevented from flying UK side if you don’t have a hard copy.
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I flew from Gatwick yesterday with Easyjet and asked at boarding gate why nobody had checked for visa as it has been checked before. Told changed again fir flights to Dalaman as possible to purchase visa on arrival, not the same at all airports in Turkey though. I had a look round when queuing at passport control but couldn't see a visa desk. Think better to just print off visa or at least have on phone to be sure as could change again! Without informing anyone!
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Sounds to be a bit if a shambles really and no-one knows just what's going on. Bit of a no brainer for me, just take a copy of your visa and if you need to show it you have it but if you don't, not really a problem is it.
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I’ve just had an email from Easyjet saying must have an evisa as now no facility or WiFi at Dalaman to obtain one either from the kiosk or via the internet
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Never asked our friend for her copy,when she came through Birmingham on Thursday.
with Thomas Cook.