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Information and Services in Turkey Section => Residency in Turkey, Visas, Work Permit Questions => Topic started by: doll on October 30, 2006, 22:06:41 PM

Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: doll on October 30, 2006, 22:06:41 PM
has any member done the test to get the above?
any ideas on what they ask you to get it?
after holding residency for 5 years.
thank you doll
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: starman on October 31, 2006, 05:27:21 AM
They ask you a load of questions in Turkish. Could be anything but is usually done in front of a panel of 3 to 5 people.
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: wickwilly on October 31, 2006, 20:18:59 PM
When I applied for mine they asked questions about why I wanted to live in Turkey, how I could support myself, my previous employment in the UK, what hobbies I have,what newspapers I read. what I thought of the Turkish people etc. As Starman says, its done in front of about 3-5 people. Mine was with the Governor of Mugla, a police chief, a plain clothes policeman and 2 others whose jobs I have forgotten. Dont forget you also have to have several medicals from a panel of doctors ranging from ent to heart specialist. You can get the form from the new hospital in Fethiye and can see all the doctors there too.

WW
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: janet.gur on October 31, 2006, 21:54:18 PM
WW
Were all the questions in Turkish and did you have to answer in Turkish?  If so - blimey - you must speak Turkish almost fluently. How did you learn?
I am going to classes, have a Turkish husband and still find it a struggle to learn.

Janet
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: starman on November 01, 2006, 04:45:15 AM
yes, you must give the answers in Turkish but then again if you have been living here for 5 years you really should have learnt the basics by now.
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: wickwilly on November 01, 2006, 19:15:56 PM
Hi Janet. Yes the questions and answers were in Turkish but they took it nice and slow. If your husband is Turkish they will probably let him sit in on the interview. I did have  grammar lessons in a school in Fethiye (Akyali now closed) but my wife happens to be Turkish!!!

WW
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: doll on November 02, 2006, 11:58:38 AM
there you are ww
you have more help than someone who doesn't have a turkish partner
i understand a little but its my memory which is the problem,
new brain implant needed, thanks for your answers folks
looks like i will be doing mace trips....
doll
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: lizw on December 16, 2006, 15:31:54 PM
Hi sorry if i sound daft - but what are the advantages of applying for citizenship and can you have dual with uk or do you give that up? Thanks  :-\
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: KKOB on December 16, 2006, 16:36:47 PM
The official line is that although the UK government doesn't have a problem with people holding dual nationality, the Turkish government has banned it. When you take out Turkish citizenship you must relinquish your other passport and nationality.

Failure to do so can result in a huge fine.

Apparently, the maximum fine currently stands at about 20 (yes, twenty )YTL! LOL
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: hoops man on December 19, 2006, 12:20:28 PM
Are you sure you need to give up your nationality and British passport?Have they just introduced this?This wasnt the case before.Why would anyone even consider that if it was the case as prospects here are obviously alot less than uk.Going back to liz question what would be the advantage?
Ron
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: Nikos on December 19, 2006, 13:12:35 PM
My wife has dual nationality...

quote:
Originally posted by KayaKoyuOldBoy

The official line is that although the UK government doesn't have a problem with people holding dual nationality, the Turkish government has banned it. When you take out Turkish citizenship you must relinquish your other passport and nationality.

Failure to do so can result in a huge fine.

Apparently, the maximum fine currently stands at about 20 (yes, twenty )YTL! LOL

Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: KKOB on December 19, 2006, 13:52:47 PM
Good for her, but it doesn't change anything !

There's also a law that says drivers and passengers of 2 wheeled motor vehicles in Turkey must wear a crash-helmet.

However, someday, someone, will come unstuck, because ignoring a law doesn't make it legal.
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: hoops man on December 20, 2006, 11:11:06 AM
if thats the case why dont they ask for you to relinquish your British passport on gaining your new Turkish passport?Sounds like something is amiss!!!i know there are lots of Turkish laws not adhered to but this is passports we are talking about.The implications are massive!!i will further investigate this and get back.Cheers

Ron
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: LISANN on December 21, 2006, 19:33:41 PM
is turkish citizenship getting your kimlik? is it 3 years before you can apply for one if your married to a turk? do you have to have residence aswell or not?
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: hoops man on December 22, 2006, 11:01:40 AM
Yes but you get a turkish passport.A women must be married to a turkish national for at least 3 years.A man needs to be married to a turkish national for 5 years.Yes 5 years.Thought this was a mans worlds as well!!!Man or women you must take the oral test which is very difficult unless your turkish is excellent.Not average as has been mentioned.
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: wickwilly on December 22, 2006, 21:44:57 PM
Hoops man. Are you sure that a man has to be married for 5 years before he can apply for Turkish nationality. When I applied that was not the case. If you are not married to a turkish national you can apply after 5 years residency. If you are married to a Turkish national then it is 3 years for either men or women.The oral exam is not that difficult, just basic questions which should be able to be answered after 3 years residency!!

WEW
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: Nicnic on July 04, 2007, 10:51:28 AM
Basicly the exam is talking about yourself i will be going for mine in a few months i have lived here for just over 4 years now. My turkish is pretty good but having a few lessons with a turkish lady who lived in the uk for 12 years so she is pretty good, just learning the grammer things. But my turkish partner says i wont have any problem. But sorry to say as far as given up your english passport i would never do and you dont have to do it anyhow.
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: sunnyd on July 04, 2007, 12:43:24 PM
I married 6 years ago, at the time of all paperwork i was asked by the consulate in Izmir, if i was taking Turkish nationality alone OR did i want to take dual nationlity, i took dual nationality.
I was then told, by the person who was going to marry us, that i had to forfeit my British nationality, i couldn't be a dual national... i went back to the British consulate in Izmir and they said 'nonsense' telephoned the person in question and corrected them.

I found this on www.turkishconsulate.org.uk and have yet to read that a British Citizen has to forfeit their British Nationality if they become a Turkish citizen also.
 
APPLYING FOR TURKISH NATIONALITY:


According to Turkish Nationality Act (numbered 403), a foreigner should meet the following requirements in order to apply for Turkish nationality.

*He/She should be at the age of consent according to his/her national law (if he/she is not a citizen of any country, Turkish law is taken into consideration which requires 18 years old as the age of consent).
*He/She should reside in Turkey for the last five years and should have the intention of settling in Turkey (This condition may not be applicable to those who are married to a Turkish national or those who are with Turkish origin).
*He/She should be in good health.
*He/She should speak Turkish.
*He/She should have enough financial resources to support himself/herself and his/her family in Turkey.

If you meet the conditions above, you can apply to obtain Turkish nationality. Application can be made through this Consulate General or the local Governor's office in Turkey with the following documents.  

*A document revealing the present nationality of the applicant, i.e. passport or birth certificate.
*If married to a Turkish national, the official documents confirming the identities and family ties of the spouse and the under aged children.
*Certification of applicant's ability to speak Turkish (a certificate will be issued by this Consulate General upon a successful interview of the applicant).
*A medical certificate confirming the applicant's good health and being free from any infectious diseases that may endanger the public health (this certificate can be obtained from the local GP or family doctor).
*4 photographs
*Completed application forms which can be obtained from this Consulate General.
*Certification and translation fees.
*Administration fee.

Completed dossiers are transferred to the Ministry of Interior of the Republic of Turkey, which in turn will consider and process the applications on their merits. The applicants will be informed of the outcome by this Consulate General in due course.

Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: stoop on July 04, 2007, 13:44:51 PM
   
I found this on the follwing website:  http://www.transcomm.ox.ac.uk/traces/iss6pg1.htm  It seems dual nationality is allowed as long as the authorities are informed. This would obviously be the case for a foreigner becoming a Turkish National. Why would anyone want to relinquish there UK Nationality anyway?


Merve Safa Kavakci was stripped of her Turkish citizenship less than a month after her election to parliament and faces expulsion from the legislature. The Cabinet ruled that she had taken out US citizenship without permission. Under the law, Turkish citizens who take out a second citizenship are required to inform the authorities. She acquired US citizenship through her Jordanian-born American ex-husband, a month before the parliamentary elections in April. Whether the loss of citizenship will result in Kavacki losing her seat in parliament is to be decided by the Supreme Election Board. US immigration officials said that they would investigate Kavakci if she takes an oath of allegiance to Turkey. Such an oath would violate the terms of her US citizenship.
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: hoops man on August 27, 2007, 10:56:40 AM
i just got my nationality last week.you dont give up your uk passport.The rules have changed this year so my last thread on this subject is a little out of date and inaccurate.Sorry.You dont need to be married to a turkish national now to get nationality.As long as you have had 3 years residency without a long period of leave from Turkey you can apply.The couple who were in before me for the so called 'test 'were in on their own and i got the impression they had a hard time of it.Myself ,i went in with my wife who is Turkish.They asked her all the questions i thought they would ask me then turned round and said congratulations Ronnie.i never uttered one word.i would say to anyone who is not married to a Turk to brush up on the basics and if you fall into the category of 3 years residency then go for it.They do seem to be making it easier for us.

Ronnie
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: JohnF on August 27, 2007, 11:22:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by stoop

Merve Safa Kavakci was stripped of her Turkish citizenship less than a month after her election to parliament and faces expulsion from the legislature.


That's an old one Stoop; there's actually a little bit more to the Kavagi affair than the headscarf issue.

Kavagi was slipped in to the lists of the Virtue party candidates by Erbakan, after he had been forced out of office.  No-one paid her much attention till she got elected and then, the proverbial hit the fan!  She was almost prosecuted for "inciting hatred" as no woman had ever entered parliament with a headscarf before, the prosecutor at the time (Savas) went so far as to demand the death penalty!

Stripping her of her citizenship was an easy way out and she toddled off back to America.

JF
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: Nicnic on August 28, 2007, 06:35:10 AM
Please put me right on this, i thought that you had to have residency for 5 years before going for your citizenship not 3 years please advise me on this, because if its 3 years then i can apply now as i have had my residency for 4 years
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: Diverbaz 1 on August 28, 2007, 08:00:50 AM
NicNic,

3 years if you are married to a Turkisk national.

Baz 8)
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: stuart on August 29, 2007, 03:46:09 AM
5 years if not !!
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: starman on August 29, 2007, 04:11:41 AM
5 yrs resident not 3 as is this case with most other EU states.
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: number2 on August 29, 2007, 04:34:10 AM
what if you are 20 years old, then 5 years in Turkey and go for citizenship, do you have to serve 15 months in the army, as do all the Turkish males. Alan
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: sominekebap on August 29, 2007, 06:02:26 AM
No number2.
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: starman on August 29, 2007, 17:24:13 PM
but some time will have to be done if they have not done military service before.
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: ECHOSTAR on November 24, 2007, 07:46:49 AM
Hello ,
If anyone has recently applied for Turkish citizenship ( by being recident alone) it would be very usefull to know what questions you were asked by the mugla panel? And the duration of the interview?
Many Thanks
Ilknur
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: sominekebap on November 24, 2007, 08:19:19 AM
Perhaps admin could edit the header of this topic to correct the spelling. I think I am right that currently it wont appear in any forum search?
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: Scunner on November 24, 2007, 17:41:26 PM
Done :D
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: sominekebap on November 24, 2007, 18:18:18 PM
Took you long enough to find it in the dictionary?
Title: Turkish Citizenship
Post by: Scunner on November 24, 2007, 18:20:25 PM
Took me long enough to find it in the CBF