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Calis Beach Forum => Calis Beach Questions and Information => Topic started by: Highlander on July 14, 2007, 19:05:02 PM
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During our holiday in June we paid our usual visit to Zeke at Infinity in Olu Deniz.
We were warmly greeted as we walked in. Zeke was busy with other customers and during this time we were treated with the utmost courtesy by the rest of the staff and were brought lemon tea.
When Zeke came over we had a long chat over more lemon tea whilst we looked at some rings. After the pleasantest of hours, and having made a purchase which we know will represent excellent value, we bade our good friend goodbye.
Today, we took the ring into Inverness to have it valued.
The lady assistant, who I believe to be the proprietor wife, looked at the ring and then took through the back to her husband. She came back to announce that it was a fire opal.
Brenda politely corrected her and said it was a ruby - its a Brazilian ruby, not the usual colour, and very distinctive. At this point, she went into the window and took out a ring with a dark red stone and forcibly told Mrs H "THIS is a ruby" - bad mistake.
Then hubbie asked "What did you pay for it!" Putting my incredulity aside I told him firmly that we were not going to tell him. He then picked up and ring box and throw it across the counter at Mrs H announcing "It's afire opal - take it somewhere else !"
I managed to contain myself as I left the shop but anger got the better of me and I went back into the shop. I told the proprietor that I considered his behaviour to be disgraceful and that the stone was indeed a ruby. His response was to ask "Are you an expert then".
"No" was my response "but a trust the man who sold it to me because he IS a jeweler". This idiots' finally word on the matter "Well a hope its a piece of glass !.
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Imagine what he would have said if you had said "I bought it in a jewellers in a Turkish holiday resort" [:o]
Good for you John, I hope you get it valued elsewhere and take the valuation back to show these pompous idiots :)
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They sound like a couple of 'charmer's' H : :) Bet they have lots of regular customers. NOT :P ;)
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Scunner - I fully intend to get it valued elsewhere and ram it right up their pompous, sanctimonious noses. You may have gathered I'm really annoyed by the whole sordid episode.:(
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Of course he could be right and the ring is worthless!
I'm joking, I'm joking!!
I think that if ever we meet, you may put a value on my family jewels but only after kicking them first. Oooohhh!!
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Have counted to ten and considered your post.
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I love gems, now I dont have chance to wear them, (dont go well on a beach).
I really hope that i too am proven wrong. Brazilan Ruby, if this is what the guy sold it to you as then he is not lying, that is the name given to the Red (pink/cherry pink) topaz or fire type opals, it is very distinctive in colour, the opal should not reflect any flashes of colour bar the main one. the red (pink) topaz should have a clean cut and clarity. To the trained eye the difference is very obvious, but both stones lend themselves to be faceted.
but good luck in your quest.
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I hope you do get another opinion and sort him out.What a disgraceful show of behaviour by the proprieter.:-\I was going to suggest you stick it up somewhere else but you'll still need to retrieve it and disinfect it :o
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:o Sanny, so its not just me, I was about to post the same thing,
And H, I would get it valued and e.mail to them with a big wink. ;)
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The Inverness jeweller wasn't MF by any chance (I didn't want to put the actual name of the jeweller down!) If it was - he really knows his stuff, but if it wasn't - take it to him for a second opinion.
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I can't find any info on Brazilian Ruby - other than the feathered variety. Good luck with your search for a value.
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Highlander. I take it that you did not take the ring to the Inverness jeweller to sell nor did you tell him the source. If this is the case then what would be the motive of the Inverness jeweller to undervalue it.[?] [?]
Ken 8)
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Firstly, thanks for all the interest and support. Having talked to Mrs H, I may have got the "Brazilian" bit totally wrong. Have e-mailed Zeke for confirmation of the stone and will let you all know the outcome.
Thanks again
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Thank goodness for that! I googled it and came up with a link to a rather large lady called Ruby who insists she is Brazilian and offers some sort of service - but you really don't want to know!
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Oh dear, it's hands up time I'm afraid.
I have been in touch with Zeke who confirms that the stone is NOT a ruby. Quite where we got that idea that it was a ruby, far less a Brazilian one, remains a mystery (we attach absolutely no blame to Zeke for this mistake by the way)
I have been back to the Inverness jeweler to offer my apologies which he graciously accepted with a firm handshake.
He explained that the reason he asked what we had paid, was that he has had numerous examples of people coming to him for valuations who had been ripped off by unscrupulous people. He didn't say where or not these "sharks" were British or foreigners.
The next time I want to buy one of these (http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q214/highlander_010/Ruby-1.jpg) perhaps I should go to and aviary.
Ah well, the man who never made a mistake etc etc.
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You were man enough to go back and apologise Well done H
p.s I would have started shopping in Aberdeen. :-\
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:) Highlander your honesty & integrity, demonstrate what a wonderful gentleman you truly are :)
Takes a bigger man to admit a mistake [^] :)
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Highlander
Do you now know what the stone is? A number of gemstone websites describe "Brazilian ruby" as an unofficial/slang/false name for a pink or rose topaz.
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Originally posted by loz
I love gems, now I dont have chance to wear them, (dont go well on a beach).
I really hope that i too am proven wrong. Brazilan Ruby, if this is what the guy sold it to you as then he is not lying, that is the name given to the Red (pink/cherry pink) topaz or fire type opals, it is very distinctive in colour, the opal should not reflect any flashes of colour bar the main one. the red (pink) topaz should have a clean cut and clarity. To the trained eye the difference is very obvious, but both stones lend themselves to be faceted.
but good luck in your quest.
I did not mean any animosity by my prev post. but diamonds (or gems in this case) are a girls best friend.. :D I have a range of them and now after this thread I am back on the collecting trail, shhhh dont tell you know who: :) ;)
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Originally posted by Colwyn
Highlander
Do you now know what the stone is? A number of gemstone websites describe "Brazilian ruby" as an unofficial/slang/false name for a pink or rose topaz.
Zeke tells us its a garnet although Mrs H maintains that someone in the shop did say it was a ruby. Its all very mysterious because we trust Zeke implicitly.
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Originally posted by loz
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Originally posted by loz
I love gems, now I dont have chance to wear them, (dont go well on a beach).
I really hope that i too am proven wrong. Brazilan Ruby, if this is what the guy sold it to you as then he is not lying, that is the name given to the Red (pink/cherry pink) topaz or fire type opals, it is very distinctive in colour, the opal should not reflect any flashes of colour bar the main one. the red (pink) topaz should have a clean cut and clarity. To the trained eye the difference is very obvious, but both stones lend themselves to be faceted.
but good luck in your quest.
I did not mean any animosity by my prev post. but diamonds (or gems in this case) are a girls best friend.. :D I have a range of them and now after this thread I am back on the collecting trail, shhhh dont tell you know who: :) ;)
None taken Loz I can assure you :)
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Highland Bling, is it the real thing?
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Originally posted by tinkerman
Highland Bling, is it the real thing?
Tink - Mrs H says she knows where you live. She's on Messenger to the Bournmouth Crew right now asking if she can join them.
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Originally posted by Highlander
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Originally posted by tinkerman
Highland Bling, is it the real thing?
Tink - Mrs H says she knows where you live. She's on Messenger to the Bournemouth Crew right now asking if she can join them.
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Having e-mailed Infinity, they have asked to be a Messenger Contact so we will be able to chat to Zeke and Sabri at any time - how good is that. Every cloud DOES have a silver lining :):D :)
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Surely though the jeweler in the UK should have identified the stone as a Garnet then?
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H- I think your reaction and subsequent admission of a mistake is really brave!
If Mrs H loves the ring and you feel like Zeke gave you a good deal thats all that matters- surely?
I wish her well to wear it.
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Originally posted by Cavfan
H- I think your reaction and subsequent admission of a mistake is really brave!
If Mrs H loves the ring and you feel like Zeke gave you a good deal thats all that matters- surely?
I wish her well to wear it.
She does Cavfan and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Zeke gave us a good deal - he always does.
I should know the final outcome in about two weeks.
Thanks for all your kind words.