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Calis Beach Forum => Calis Beach Questions and Information => Topic started by: Brandi on December 06, 2007, 17:43:50 PM
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Hi - I'm not sure I'm allowed to do this, and if so, if this is the right place to do it anyway. Moderators be kind to me please!
We were recommended a builder to re-roof our property. He did the job October 2006. As the property is not used during the winter it was not until May 2007 that the property was lived in again. Unfortunately the roof was still leaking although you could see nice new tiles on the roof. It seems he forgot to put any felt or similar material under the tiles !!. His name is Nedim but I don't know his last name. He is used by an estate agent in Calis, where we got the referal from. I have been trying since last May to get the builder to come back and look again at the roof but without any success. Have phoned and text him. Have phoned text and emailed the agent. If anyone can help in any way I would be extremely grateful. We paid an awful lot of money to get the job done and although I know 'well this is Turkey' I would hate to have to pay it all out again to get another builder to do the job again. Any ideas anyone? I wouldn't ask if I wasn't absolutely desperate.
thanks.
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Who was the agent that recommended him?
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It's unusual for builders to put felt under rooftiles in Turkey unless you specifically ask them to. They usually just lay the tiles onto wooden shuttering. Unless you told him that you wanted the roof felting and re-tiling, he wouldn't know any different.
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if that is the case KKOB, why doesnt the builder or the Agent explain to them instead of ignoring them...........?
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Thanks KKOB - it's possibly a communication fault then. Never thought to tell a builder how to do a job! I probably assumed felting always went under tiles otherwise the rain gets in between the tiles!! I have obviously thinking about this in a British way and not in a Turkish way. I presume wooden shuttering are just old planks of wood laid down first! perhaps they've moved and that's why the rain is coming in.
Tinks - don't know that I should name and shame. The agent has in the past been very good and helpful but since recommending this builder seems to want nothing else to do with us!
thanks for your quick responses -
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I know Nedim, although not actually done anything with him - he does have a pretty good reputation to be honest.
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This sounds so familiar, the estate agents get your money as does the builder then when you have problems they do not return your calls or e-mails and you only get certain things solved when you are out there.
talk about patience and diplomacy when you feel like screaming at them.
As a widow and out there, no Turkish work man is safe, once on the complex he does not leave until he has helped me, get my telly working, as my Turkish phone, my washer, hot water and cleanliness of the pool.
So far they have been great.
Regards
sue
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is he English because he was recommended by an English couple but his prices were ridiculous and we got the job well done and cheaper elsewhere
he hangs out at the nil bar if it is the same fella
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He speaks pretty decent English, he is Turkish though :)
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If it is the Nedim - who is Turkish & hangs out at Nils. We have had quite a fair bit of work done by him. He's been excellent & reasonable. Yes, we did get other quotes! Not heard anyone else say any different. On the contrary, everyone we know who he's done work for have been very pleased.
The only problem with Nedim is he has so many satisfied customers buying him drinks at the Nil that sometimes he can't get away & he turns up late for his appointment with you.
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If this is the Nedim I know (who hangs out at Nil Bar) I would certainly recommend his work.
If he was recommended by the Estate Agent I know that uses him I would have no hesitation in saying that they are honest and honourable people who are likely to be upset to hear of your problems.
I may be wrong but re-roofing a house sounds like a big job for Nedim - did he do the work himself or did he sub-contract the work to another builder ?
Some of the prices Nedim has given us have been very reasonable but on reflection some of the other prices have been very expensive, but I tend to stick with him because he will turn up at short notice for emergencies and I trust him to go in the house during the winter.
Good luck with sorting everything out - I know this post hasn't helped you sort anything out but at least you know you are not dealing with complete rogues and it may give you hope that it can be sorted out.
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I know Nedim for years and reccommend him for renovation works sometimes , but I AM NOT the estate agent of Brandi who reccommended him in this event . I will be happy if Brandi confirms this .
Nedim's work quality is good and he is always helpful.
After reading Brandi's post , I called Nedim and asked what happened , in order to help both sides .
He said he definately put insulation material under the tiles . He said he was called by Brandi's agent after the work and went to check the leaking . When he went , he saw some tiles are broken and changed them . I was told , he wasnt called anytime after changing the broken tiles and thought that problem is sorted.
Laura , he said he will contact your agent again.
Hope this helps.
Cenk
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Cenk when Brandi said the estate Agent was not returning her calls anyone who knows you and Olga would have known straight away it was not you.
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Cenk,
I think it is fantastic that you have gone to the trouble to help Brandi out. It shows how good this forum is to have made it happen. I'm sure Brandi will be delighted at the help you have given her. It is reassuring to know that there are people out there like yourself who are willing to help others in their time of need. :D
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When we had our property on Telmessos, Cenk reccomended Nadim to us and he carried out several jobs for us all with great satisfaction,
but we did have one problem with him, He kept drinking my beer :o.
He is a very genuine nice man, he even came back one evening with his wife and stayed the evening with us and even bought us a gift,
which was an oil lamp to keep the mossies away, unfortunately we had no matches so he nipped round to Alan and Dawns house and borrowed theirs :-\
Tinx ;)
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How eerie,We have just had Nedim round,on recommendation,to quote to correct some really shoddy work done by a well known person from Fethyie,his reaction when he saw the work was s##t, the state of the roof meant we didn't need a shower room,and yes we did give the original "builder" the chance to come and put right the mess,five weeks of exuses.Watch this space and we will,on Monday after Nadim has been round and done the business report on how successful he has been, he has guaranteed that his guarantee will be of some value
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it is also common in Turkey that roof tiles are not nailed down. I think Turkish people are less worried about weather proofing than the British - probably due to having different climates rather than any devious motive.
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We have the same type of tiles fitted to our house in the UK they have been in place for over 40 years they do not leak even in hurricane's like 1987 they do not require or have any provision for nailing down. If they are fitted correctly over a water proof membrane onto battens and aligned properly they will not leak.The problem seems to be where the metal FLASHING [one for the ladies to comment on]joins the wall how can this work long term with the heat of the summer causing it to expand and shrink and breaking the cement fillet seal used to hold the FLASHING[again] in place
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Cenk - you are a star. I can confirm that Cenk was not the agent I spoke of in my first post. I can however confirm that Cenk has always been extremely helpful as evident, yet again, in this instance. We have now been contacted by Nedim and the agent and he was meeting at the property yesterday. Just waiting to hear the outcome of that meeting. Hopefully it can at last all be sorted out. Cenk I cannot thank you enough - I think a reward is in order !!
To everyone else - thanks for your contributions, they too have been very helpful.
I can also confirm that the agent was not Keith nor Yetkin. I would like to thank Keith very much for such a superb forum.
Drinks all round when I'm next out in Calis
Cheers
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Glad you got it sorted, Nedim owes me "drinks all round" too for what turned into a good advert for him ;)
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If he'Nedim'sorts out our problem then we will lead the way in good adverts.
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No problem Brandi . I am happy that problem is being sorted.
Thank you very much for your kind words.
Cenk
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Well thanks to everyone for trying to help but Nedim still hasn;t come to complete the repairs. This is now two months after he promised he would do so - and over a year since the work was first completed !!! I know things are very slow in Turkey and I know that people on this forum praised him highly but what on earth do we have to do to get this builder to keep his word and complete the repairs. I certainly could not recommend his work to anyone from my experiences and feel that people who read the forum and want work doing might wish to take note of my experiences. It looks now that we will have to pay again for another builder to help us - any recommendations? - excluding Nedim of course.!!
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brandi,we too had roof problems with nedim,we didnt have any leaks until he carried out other works to the roof,he came back 3 times to sort out ,then when we still had leaks he kept prommising to return but didnt.we used another man to sort out,will not give you his name on open forum ,but if you e-mail me i will give you the details,1st class and speaks exlelent english,
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thanks for that terrie, I did try to email you but it has been returned - will try again
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Hi sorry to hear of your problems i have always used nedim he isn't the cheapest but i found him to be one of the best,he has done of work for me inside and all my garden work crazy paving ,and last put me a big balcony up on the roof he made a really good job of it .
took only one week he got his boys to sweep and wash all floors in the house its a triplex as well so lot of floors you can always get him in the nil bar 6/7 pm he does all angels work for her he will sort it hang in there .
Lance ;)
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Originally posted by Brandi
Well thanks to everyone for trying to help but Nedim still hasn;t come to complete the repairs. This is now two months after he promised he would do so - and over a year since the work was first completed !!! I know things are very slow in Turkey and I know that people on this forum praised him highly but what on earth do we have to do to get this builder to keep his word and complete the repairs. I certainly could not recommend his work to anyone from my experiences and feel that people who read the forum and want work doing might wish to take note of my experiences. It looks now that we will have to pay again for another builder to help us - any recommendations? - excluding Nedim of course.!!
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' he will sort it hang in there .'
Lance -he's had 12 months to sort it. How long do you expect Brandi to 'hang in there'?
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hi brandi,sorry ,ive updated my profile,you should be able to e-mail now
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Stoop thought you would be lurking in the background waiting to pounce on me, what was your former profession a professional stalker
get a life mate chill out.
No doubt you will let me know if there are any spelling mistakes or punctuations wrong have a nice day.
Lance :P ;)
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' he will sort it hang in there .'
Lance -he's had 12 months to sort it. How long do you expect Brandi to 'hang in there'?
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Lance,
Get a life man, stop talking drivel and try answering my question.
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FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
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You hold Lance's smart blazer Tinx, I'll hold Stoop's parka
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:D
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I can just see you too in the playground - drifting to the back when it gets tough -lol
Scunn- uncanny that you knew I was wearing my parka today!
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Yep, that's me :)
I was only joking about the parka, just thought with Lance being from the south he would be smartly dressed for school, whereas you would need something with big pockets for your ferrets.
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No - I need the big pockets for my shovel hands! Scared Lance?
LOL
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Need big hands to fill mouth that size and by the way its a levver jacket i got on ,see no spelling mistakes again getting better aint i
geezer.
Lance
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Originally posted by stoop
No - I need the big pockets for my shovel hands! Scared Lance?
LOL
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Keith, do something about these roughie ,toughies,they are scaring people.:P
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Yes I do Ron, they are both big cream puffs :D
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Lance,
I don't have enough time to sort out your spelling as well!
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Anyway - we are way off topic here. What about this builder? Surely he should have sorted this by now.
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Ok stoop i will have to use spell check sleep tight.
lance
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Originally posted by stoop
Anyway - we are way off topic here. What about this builder? Surely he should have sorted this by now.
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Nudging vaguely back towards topic, if anyone has roof problems I can put you in touch with a good company.
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Originally posted by lance
Ok stoop i will have to use spell check sleep tight.
lance
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Originally posted by stoop
Anyway - we are way off topic here. What about this builder? Surely he should have sorted this by now.
Just try answering the question lance.
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Stoop yes i do agree he should have sorted it by now ,i sent a message yesterday to a friend of his to have a word with him ,its just so unlike him to mess people about.
Lance
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Originally posted by stoop
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Originally posted by lance
Ok stoop i will have to use spell check sleep tight.
lance
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Originally posted by stoop
Anyway - we are way off topic here. What about this builder? Surely he should have sorted this by now.
Just try answering the question lance.
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Thank you
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hiya we use nedim he is good worker and a top bloke, however getting him back to do any repairs is a nightmare- i would only use him if your prepared to wait a looong time for any work..!!
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finally my promised report on Nedim,wasn't our roof that was leaking but where the flat roof terrace meets the low parapet wall.Working with Nadim the problem has now been sorted,I,m sure that he is now able to deal with a similar situation,But as has been said you may have to chase him
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Originally posted by siemli
getting him back to do any repairs is a nightmare- i would only use him if your prepared to wait a looong time for any work..!!
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Isn't the above statement aimed at a majority of work/tradesman.
Nedim is great, someone told him we had a problem, he thought it was serious and was at our house in 5minutes, since then has carried quite a few jobs, however, a simple job of enclosing our balcony with a blind has not materialised, knowing Nedim he has probably totally forgot, and will need reminding, [:o)]
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heard lots of stories about nedim some good mostly bad he goes where the money is getting him back to do snagging is a nightmare no money in it
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Not quite Puma ,his prices are resonable and does need reminding now and again but he does a good job.
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We have reminded him, chased him, stalked him, Cenk has also tried to help and phoned him for me even though Cenk has had nothing to do with this - thanks Cenk. Unfortunately as at today - still no sign of him returning to the crime scene !! We have been very patient and short of creeping up behind him and bundling him into a car (I think its called kidnapping) I can't see what else we can do. Just wanted others to be aware to make informed decision if they need work doing. If any CBF members do see him will you please ask him - have you been to Melodi yet?? Perhaps constant nagging by everyone will work.
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Get some beer in
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wonderful idea tinkerman - I certainly need it !!
I wont be able to tempt Nedim in until July when I am next out there but will suggest it to the other owner/tenants!!