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Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: Rindaloo on July 01, 2008, 23:04:06 PM
Deafened during the day.  Is it Cicadas that makes the racket?  Or Tree frogs??  I like a bit of atmosphere but I need earplugs!!!  I thought Uzumlu was supposed to be peaceful!!!
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: pookie on July 02, 2008, 08:37:44 AM
:D  add that to the cockerels, donkeys, dogs and the Imam, its hell of a place at 5.00 in the morning !!!:D
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: mikew on July 02, 2008, 09:04:18 AM
None of these, its the drummer practising for Ramazan starting in August!
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: Rindaloo on July 02, 2008, 09:07:16 AM
This is during the day,  So the donkeys and cockerels and drummer have the night to themselves!
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Post by: pookie on July 02, 2008, 11:05:34 AM
theres never a moments peace is there.......[^]:D
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Post by: amanda bullock on July 02, 2008, 12:07:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by pookie

:D  add that to the cockerels, donkeys, dogs and the Imam, its hell of a place at 5.00 in the morning !!!:D



:Dlol:D
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: ted molloy on July 02, 2008, 14:54:26 PM
Do ferretts make a noise at night ? I ask this becuse when we were staying with friends in Uzumlu i kept hearing this grunting sound at night like grunt" grunt" and then ooooh" ooooh" i just wondered if it was the ferretts or some other wild beast in the neighbourhood.

I do like the sound of the donkeys and those cricket things and the local Imam it certainly adds to the whole atmosphere better that than listening to some grumpy old git moaning about the weather and the price of tractor fuel out side my house early in the morning. ;):D
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Post by: Twin Bee on July 02, 2008, 17:31:59 PM
Likes of people grunt in Uzumulu - (only joking)
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: Rindaloo on July 02, 2008, 18:07:56 PM
Hmmmph  ;)

So, no one knows.  OK well I recon it's cicadas because I have found 2 cicada-like bugs and in the absence of any educated info, I will go with that.

As for the night grunting, haven't you heard of The Beast of Uzumlu??
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: ted molloy on July 02, 2008, 19:42:45 PM
The beast of Uzumlu! of course i have heard if him i had coffe with him in May at the Megri:D
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: pookie on July 03, 2008, 09:07:34 AM
the grunting could well have been hedgehogs - they make lots of noise scurrying around at night.  The noisy tree is probably cicadas - they are very odd looking beetley things, hard to spot as they disguise themselves against the tree bark.  One got into our bedroom last year and drove us around the bend -  Mr Pookie had to hunt him down and return him to the olive groves ! :)
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: Rindaloo on July 03, 2008, 09:22:49 AM
LOL, we had a Cicada on the front path yesterday.  It was laying feet upwards.  I thought it was dead.  Went to pick it up to see if it was the same as the cicadas I had seen on the net and the bloody thing flew off.  Made me jump!

Maybe it was just sunning itself!

I imagine in the house they are deafening.   But these don't make a noise at night.  It just seems to be in the afternoon mostly.
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: emmast on July 04, 2008, 09:08:38 AM
What do these Cicada look like?  Are they Beetle like? We had a massive Beetle type of creature land on our terrace one night in Uzumlu. It sounded like a low flying aircraft on its final approach as it came into land !!! It got me hopping around a bit !!
On the grunting front, i do know that Mummy and Daddy hedgehogs making baby hedgehogs make an incredible amount of noise !!
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: ted molloy on July 04, 2008, 09:34:13 AM
Ref grunting and ooooh" at night i think your missing the point hedgehogs don't go ooooh" ooooh" at night but prehaps ferretts do!
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: calvin 1949 on July 04, 2008, 10:20:01 AM
And Tourists!!!! too hot for us locals
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Post by: peecee on July 04, 2008, 10:24:56 AM
Cicadas look like blooming great grasshoppers.  Saw one walking the dog in the forest at the back of the village,must have been at least 4 inches long in the body and it wasn't going to move out of the way!!  Walked around it!
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: calvin 1949 on July 04, 2008, 10:30:31 AM
What!!!! a Cicadas walking a dog ,gosh they must be big!!!
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Post by: mike A on July 04, 2008, 11:14:36 AM
Cicadas do not look like Grasshoppers, they resemble large flies and make that sound by vibrating their wing on their wing casings, unlike the Grasshopper which uses its legs.
http://www.ivyhall.district96.k12.il.us/4th/KKHP/1INSECTS/cicada.html
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: alec on July 04, 2008, 14:50:13 PM
Yes, cicadas.  And hedgehogs grunting.  Going home to Kizilbel around midnight I usually see two or three on the road.  They have just as much tendency to wander under your wheels as avoid them, so I'm not totally convinced the squashed ones have been deliberately run down.  Do you hear the owls and the nightjars too?  (And the nightingales, but they've stopped now.) And I sometimes see something glinting brightly on the road surface in my headlights.  I stopped once to look and it was a big wolf spider.
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Post by: mike A on July 04, 2008, 15:00:42 PM
Apparently it seems that Cicadas do not use their wings to make that sound, have just read the link on my last post, fascinating creature though. 8)
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: alec on July 04, 2008, 15:04:12 PM
No, if it looks like a grasshopper it is a grasshopper.  Or a cricket.  There was one in the restaurant last night.  I picked it up and it bit me hard enough to draw blood.  There's another kind that you see on the Üzümlü-Fethiye road at night.  There used to be crabs there too (I'm not joking) but I haven't seen any for a long time.  Cicadas look like giant greenfly with wings, only brown.
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: Rindaloo on July 04, 2008, 15:34:26 PM
Cicadas have their eyes wide apart.   They have a blunt head.  Google them, you'll see what I mean.  We had one in the villa.  I assumed it was a huge wasp (didn't have glasses on), so I shot it.....  It wasn't till I took the coughing remains outside I realised my mistake. -oops...
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: The Crinklies on July 04, 2008, 16:23:30 PM
It was coughing because it's not used to shots of raki!
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: Crabbit on July 04, 2008, 19:44:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by alec

No, if it looks like a grasshopper it is a grasshopper.  Or a cricket.  There was one in the restaurant last night.  I picked it up and it bit me hard enough to draw blood.  There's another kind that you see on the Üzümlü-Fethiye road at night.  There used to be crabs there too (I'm not joking) but I haven't seen any for a long time.  Cicadas look like giant greenfly with wings, only brown.



Leave me out of this, I don`t wander up Uzumlu.    :D
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: peecee on July 05, 2008, 07:33:43 AM
My apologies,it was a great blooming grasshopper walking the dog!
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Post by: salford Al on July 06, 2008, 13:19:06 PM
When we were over in June there was loads of wild life. There seemed to be an invasion of moths. Is it like this each year at that time?

A visitor to our house killed a three foot snake just down the lane. Do we need to kill them?

We were socialising at a neighbors house and on our way out had to negotiate the biggest cricket/grasshopper I have seen. At least 6 inches long.

Another night after socialising we had a six inch scorpion waiting on our doorstep to welcome us in.

Another night after socialising in the Wine House we were on our way home around midnight and had what I think was a fox in our headlights about 20yds. in front. It was smaller and thinner than a Brit fox and had great big ears.


Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: Crabbit on July 06, 2008, 15:20:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by salford Al

We were socialising at a neighbors house and on our way out had to negotiate the biggest cricket/grasshopper I have seen. At least 6 inches long.

Another night after socialising we had a six inch scorpion waiting on our doorstep to welcome us in.

Another night after socialising in the Wine House we were on our way home around midnight and had what I think was a fox in our headlights about 20yds. in front. It was smaller and thinner than a Brit fox and had great big ears.



I think you should stop socialising.    :D
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: peecee on July 06, 2008, 19:26:53 PM
Salford A, I think you're right, the wildlife does seem to be bigger and better this year.  I've had 2 snakes in the garden (both vipers) the biggest spider I've ever seen on the kitchen door and I've spotted the 'fox' too.  A friend had a 6" scorpion (black) by her pool.
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: bikerchickblonde on July 06, 2008, 20:37:53 PM
I've got a viper and black scorpions and loads of frogs!
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Post by: tillyfloss on July 07, 2008, 08:21:00 AM
Vipers!!!!

Is there a doctor in Uzumlu who has antidotes etc?

Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: wallace on July 07, 2008, 08:37:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by bikerchickblonde

I've got a viper and black scorpions and loads of frogs!



lol that should gain you some privacy
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: Eric on July 07, 2008, 12:00:42 PM
The clinic on the road to Fethiye (opposite the Camlik) carries anti snake venom and anti scorpion venom serum.
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Post by: pookie on July 07, 2008, 12:49:22 PM
Thats good to know, thanks Eric.  Hope you don't know from personal experience [xx(]
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: tillyfloss on July 07, 2008, 16:33:26 PM
Thanks Eric.  

Do you have the telephone number for the clinic and the doctor?
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: alec on July 07, 2008, 16:35:22 PM
Of snakes, only the vipers are poisonous - and they're seriously dangerous - other snakes are more or less harmless, including the big black ones, and anyway they do a good job eating the rats and mice.  The big black scorpions are said to be much less dangerous than the little yellowy ones, which can be very painful but with luck shouldn't kill you.  But reading the Turkish press, it seems the biggest danger these days is ticks, which can carry a very nasty disease.
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: hamilton on July 07, 2008, 16:36:08 PM
if you are unlucky and get bitten by a snake it is very important to identify the snake that bit you, or even better catch it, as all venoms are different, so i was told when I worked in the middle east.
Tony
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Post by: wickwilly on July 07, 2008, 18:00:46 PM
further to Alec's mention about ticks.There are several varieties of ticks here but there is a new strain that has been monitored for the past couple of years.If you could see it through a magnifying glass you would see that it has a red back and looks a bit like a colorado beatle.However, Beware, these little blighters bury themselves under the skin and under no circumstances should you try and remove them yourselves. You must go to a hospital or clinic where they will remove them for you.If you try and take them out they emit a highly toxic poison into your bloodstream.There have been 700 cases in Turkey so far this year and 35 people have died through trying to remove them themselves.They are not thought to be in this area yet but are expected to do so at some stage.

WW
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Post by: julesbob0303 on July 07, 2008, 18:59:37 PM
Oooooh, they sound nice, WW   :o :-\ 8):([:(!]
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Post by: Rindaloo on July 07, 2008, 19:27:27 PM
Sweet!
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: pookie on July 08, 2008, 08:29:25 AM
anyone want to buy a villa in Uzumlu..... :o :o:D
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: cef on July 08, 2008, 09:33:32 AM
I read about the 'Ticks' problem in the Turkish Daily News; here's the link, if you Really want to know : :):D

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=108492
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: Rindaloo on July 08, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Thanks for that Cef *shudder*.  WW have you a link to the info you have about the red ticks??
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Post by: ted molloy on July 08, 2008, 12:48:03 PM
You can recognise a tick bite area if you get a nip mark that developes a red circle around it you can be almost sure that it is a tick and it is infected but it can be treated quite simply by your doctor with antibiotics but don't delay treatment.
It is advisable if you are out walking to put long trousers on rather than shorts.
The little buggers wait on tall grass and ferns ready to attach themselves on to any thing that moves,don't attempt to remove  it  but smother it with vaseline or eau de cologne (ie 4711)this will stop the tick from breathing.
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: Rindaloo on July 08, 2008, 14:04:55 PM
Hmm. i have heard the best thing to do is remove it asap.  Because if you try to suffocate it with vaseline it spits all the yeuk back into you as it suffocates.  Needess to say, do it carefully so as to get the mouthparts out.  I never pull quickly.

WW -I want to know more about these red ones.  Do they disappear under the skin completely, or do they just sink their mouths in?


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Post by: cef on July 08, 2008, 15:31:56 PM
Bloomin Heck! It 'can' be, Very serious  :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: Rindaloo on July 08, 2008, 15:47:54 PM
Is that it?  From what WW said I thought it was a new fangled nasty.  

Still yeuk though.
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Post by: pookie on July 08, 2008, 16:57:49 PM
Rindaloo  - back on topic,  this is probably whats hiding in your noisy tree  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: calvin 1949 on July 08, 2008, 17:15:09 PM
stop it your making me itch
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Post by: wickwilly on July 08, 2008, 19:15:00 PM
Hi Rindaloo. Sorry for the delay in replying to you. Was trying to find the newspaper we read about it in.Cant find it but think it was Cumhuriyet. Will try and locate the article and put it on here.

WW
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Post by: Rindaloo on July 08, 2008, 19:28:58 PM
Thanks WW
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Post by: alec on July 09, 2008, 12:38:01 PM
What I understand from the Turkish press is that the ticks already existed - and that leaving their mouthparts in when you removed them could cause a nasty infection - but that the new threat was that a tick-borne disease, Crimea-Congo haemorrhagic fever, was now spreading in Turkey, which the ticks could pass on by biting you, or from their body fluids if you squashed them.  Thus the need for extra caution.  So if a tick or a snake bites you, you'd better ask it if it wouldn't mind coming along to the doctor with you so they can identify it.  Get the ticks to bite the snakes...  Cicadas, as far as I know, don't spread any human disease, unless it's deafness...
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Post by: Rindaloo on July 09, 2008, 12:44:53 PM
Pardon?
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Post by: peecee on July 09, 2008, 19:24:48 PM
yes, complicated.  I would suggest that you kill the snake (the brown ones - vipers) before you cart it off to the doctors
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Post by: ottoman on July 14, 2008, 14:13:40 PM
''add that to the cockerels, donkeys, dogs and the Imam, its hell of a place at 5.00 in the morning !!!''

Pookie,

This is a very disrespectful act.
Please respect Turkish people and their religion.
Cocherels, donkeys, dogs and iMAM. How Imam can be spelled on the same sentance with animals. When you come to Turkey didnt you know anything about Ezan at prayer times Or do you want us to change our religion.
If we disturb you too much with the way we live for thousants of years. What do you want us to do? Shall we leave  our country.
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: nicko on July 14, 2008, 15:05:15 PM
I don't think Pookie was being disrespectful at all, just our British sense of humour. I don't beleieve  anyone chosing to live anywhere in Turkey does not have a sound knowledge of and respect for local customs in particular religious practices. I'm sure that Pookie was being ironic. One reason for many of us migrating is the people and their lifestyle, although not perfect it certainly beats that in the uk. Why on earth would we want to see it change!
Could we please not use this forum to mount a debate on either politics or religion.
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: ted molloy on July 14, 2008, 15:53:48 PM
That tree is causing a lot of problems and it's far to big for those tiny dogs to pee against so why don't you cut it down. and look at all the benfits no noise no pine needles in yer pool and plenty of firewood to last a couple of winters and if you leave the stump at about 4ft you would have a free picnic table and nothing to moan about. ;)
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Post by: Rindaloo on July 14, 2008, 18:15:03 PM
*Gasp*
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Post by: Rindaloo on July 14, 2008, 18:17:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by nicko

One reason for many of us migrating is the people and their lifestyle, although not perfect it certainly beats that in the uk. Why on earth would we want to see it change!




I totally agree and absolutely love the sound of the call to prayer AND the drummer during Ramadan. :D
Title: Noisy Tree
Post by: pookie on July 14, 2008, 18:26:21 PM
Oh Ottoman,  I was not being disrespectful -  these are the very things that I love most about Turkey !  I am sorry that you did not understand my sense of humour.  I adore Turkey, highly respect the people and the culture and this is the very reason why I love living in Turkey.  I would not change anything.  

I am beginning to wonder though, if your intentions on this forum are to pick fights with people.  Any one that knows me (and I have been a member of this forum for over two years), will know how much I love uzumlu, the people and the way of life.  I am sorry if I offended you.:(