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Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on June 14, 2009, 18:00:27 PM
It's that time of year again, the strawberrys are in abundance and the pimms is on ice, yes it's Wimbledon!

Not sure how many of you are tennis fans but I follow the results all year round.

Who do you fancy to win this year?

In the mens, I think the final will be another match up between the ferocious power hitting of Nadal and the artistry of Federer. I actually think that Federer will be supremely confident after his win in the French open and Nadal is reputedly struggling to get get fit in time due to problems with tendonitis in his knees. In addition to those two, I think maybe Englands own Andy Murray could possibly make a grand slam breakthrough. He has just won a grass court tournament which will add to his confidence.

On the womens side, I think it could be more wide open but I think the most likely outcome could be a final between the Williams sisters with possibly the reigning champ Venus edging out little sis Serena.

Venus has not had a particularly good year so far, but if she can get through the tricky first few rounds where everybody will be out to stop her, she will start to grow and grow in confidence as she has before .

I'm not sure about the world no 1 Dinara Safina or the French Open Champion Svetlana Kuznetzova as they haven't really proved themselves on grass yet. A possible a challenge could come from Elena Dementiava, Jelena Jankovic or new Danish prospect Caroline Wozniacki if they get on a roll! Not forgeting Maria Sharapova who is starting a comeback after a bad shoulder injury.

Lets hope the weather keeps good, even though is now a retractable roof on the centre court, it wont help the initial backlog if everywhere is rained off!

Who are your tips , runners and riders?

Ps, H before you blow a gasket, I know Andy Murray is a Scot.! :D
 
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Liz 101 on June 19, 2009, 23:01:33 PM
Nadal now out of Wimbledon. Anyone want to nobble Federer, then maybe more chance of a British win?
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: heather07 on June 20, 2009, 08:53:53 AM
I think maybe Englands own Andy Murray could possibly make a grand slam breakthrough

OK I will bite.  you can have him but you have to keep him if he loses too.

And I want it in writing ;)
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on June 20, 2009, 10:30:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by heather07

I think maybe Englands own Andy Murray could possibly make a grand slam breakthrough

OK I will bite.  you can have him but you have to keep him if he loses too.

And I want it in writing ;)



:D:D:D

I still think that Federer will claim the title this year, he's desperate to win at least one more to pass Pete Sampras's record of 14 grand slam titles.This would make him the greatest player of all time without doubt. It's the best opportunity he will ever have with Nadal out injured.
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Post by: Highlander on June 29, 2009, 22:39:58 PM
I don't care if your English, French or Turkish, get on your feet and applaud Andy Murray:D
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Post by: Highlander on June 29, 2009, 22:42:20 PM
Isn't that interview by the BBC the most ridiculous thing you have ever seen :o:(
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on June 29, 2009, 23:12:36 PM
I didn't see the interview but I'm delighted that Murray has won because it brings him closer to a match up with my hero Roger Federer who will edge him out. Fed has to win this tournament to be confirmed as the greatest player of all time and I dont think he'll let anything stand in his way, including the young wipper snapper Murray. ;)



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Post by: tinkerman on June 29, 2009, 23:20:18 PM
Murray showed his colours in a Portugal shirt against England.
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Post by: stoop on June 30, 2009, 00:33:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Jukebox

I didn't see the interview but I'm delighted that Murray has won because it brings him closer to a match up with my hero Roger Federer who will edge him out. Fed has to win this tournament to be confirmed as the greatest player of all time and I dont think he'll let anything stand in his way, including the young wipper snapper Murray. ;)







Murray is something like 6-1 up against Federer  :)
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Post by: braveheart on June 30, 2009, 02:49:12 AM
Strange how Andy Murray does not seem to get the same hype from the UK media as Henman did - or is just my imagination ????
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on June 30, 2009, 08:12:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by braveheart

Strange how Andy Murray does not seem to get the same hype from the UK media as Henman did - or is just my imagination ????



It's certainly is your imagination mate. :D Have you been living in a bunker? It's flipping Murray mania! All over the papers, it's the main topic of the Wimbledon TV coverage everyday!  :o
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on June 30, 2009, 08:17:24 AM
quote:
Originally posted by stoop

quote:
Originally posted by Jukebox

I didn't see the interview but I'm delighted that Murray has won because it brings him closer to a match up with my hero Roger Federer who will edge him out. Fed has to win this tournament to be confirmed as the greatest player of all time and I dont think he'll let anything stand in his way, including the young wipper snapper Murray. ;)







Murray is something like 6-1 up against Federer  :)



That won't matter on the day ( if it happens). Federer is running nicely into cruise control now!
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Post by: Jacqui Harvey on June 30, 2009, 08:57:08 AM
Great win by Andy Murray last night, lets hope he can make it all the way.  
It's time a Brit/Scot won Wimbledon.
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Post by: scorcher on June 30, 2009, 08:58:21 AM
I'm thinking that the other Andy is the danger man - he seems to be on a mission and I see him in the final with you know who!
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Post by: braveheart on June 30, 2009, 09:13:38 AM
Oh! that's good to hear !!
quote:
Originally posted by Jukebox

quote:
Originally posted by braveheart

Strange how Andy Murray does not seem to get the same hype from the UK media as Henman did - or is just my imagination ????



It's certainly is your imagination mate. :D Have you been living in a bunker? It's flipping Murray mania! All over the papers, it's the main topic of the Wimbledon TV coverage everyday!  :o

Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on June 30, 2009, 12:57:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by braveheart

Oh! that's good to hear !!
quote:
Originally posted by Jukebox

quote:
Originally posted by braveheart

Strange how Andy Murray does not seem to get the same hype from the UK media as Henman did - or is just my imagination ????



It's certainly is your imagination mate. :D Have you been living in a bunker? It's flipping Murray mania! All over the papers, it's the main topic of the Wimbledon TV coverage everyday!  :o





Just buy a paper and watch the news there will be no doubt!  ;)
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on June 30, 2009, 13:03:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by scorcher

I'm thinking that the other Andy is the danger man - he seems to be on a mission and I see him in the final with you know who!



 I agree with you, I think Andy Roddick could well be a serious contender to both Murray and Federer but I honestly dont think he'll win. Not sure whose half of the drawer he is in though.I need to check it out.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Highlander on June 30, 2009, 13:11:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Jukebox

...brings him closer to a match up with my hero Roger Federer who will edge him out. Fed has to win this tournament to be confirmed as the greatest player of all time and I dont think he'll let anything stand in his way, including the young wipper snapper Murray. ;)




You could well be right JB but it will be no disgrace to lose to such a majestic player.

Greatest player of all time ?. Possibly. I would have loved to see Federer v McEnroe or Borg (my all time hero). Different eras I know, but what a match that would have been.



PS Oh to be a young wipper snapper again (or even whipper snapper) ;)


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Post by: Jukebox on June 30, 2009, 17:35:01 PM

[/quote]


You could well be right JB but it will be no disgrace to lose to such a majestic player.

Greatest player of all time ?. Possibly. I would have loved to see Federer v McEnroe or Borg (my all time hero). Different eras I know, but what a match that would have been.



PS Oh to be a young wipper snapper again (or even whipper snapper) ;)

[/quote]

The tag of greatest has to be decided by who wins more grand slams and as you probably are aware Fed is equal with Sampras but one more slam would make him the undisputed greatest. Thats why I think he'll beat Murray but I'm sure that Murray will bring the trophy home to England one day!
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Highlander on July 01, 2009, 08:26:07 AM
Let's just wait and see if Federer reaches the Final. I feel an upset in the air. :)
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 01, 2009, 12:50:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Highlander

Let's just wait and see if Federer reaches the Final. I feel an upset in the air. :)



There would be two upsets in the air, him and me!  ;)

Feds got a 6ft 10in Croatian to get rid off and Murrays got an ex French open champion, Juan Carlos Ferrero to knock off today!


Ps, Braveheart, in my paper today , 5 full pages devoted solely to Murray and every news bulletin on GMTV this morning featured Murrays match today. Not one mentioned Federer, it's as if he's not there ! :D
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Highlander on July 01, 2009, 19:19:01 PM
I am sure Fed is devasted on to be mentioned on GMTV ;).

Two great performances by both today I understand.
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Post by: stoop on July 01, 2009, 21:28:15 PM
Should be a great final if they both manage to get there. My money is on Murray to make it 7-1 against Fed.

Small matter of the semis first though.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 01, 2009, 21:29:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stoop

Should be a great final if they both manage to get there. My money is on Murray to make it 7-1 against Fed.

Small matter of the semis first though.



Cant see either Murray or Fed failing to get through to the finals and then my money is on the Swiss to win yet another grand slam. It's what he does better than the Scot.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: stoop on July 01, 2009, 21:35:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Jukebox

quote:
Originally posted by stoop

Should be a great final if they both manage to get there. My money is on Murray to make it 7-1 against Fed.

Small matter of the semis first though.



Cant see either Murray or Fed failing to get through to the finals and then my money is on the Swiss to win yet another grand slam. It's what he does better than the Scot.




There's always a shift in power at some stage Jukey and this is the time I think.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 01, 2009, 21:44:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stoop

quote:
Originally posted by Jukebox

quote:
Originally posted by stoop

Should be a great final if they both manage to get there. My money is on Murray to make it 7-1 against Fed.

Small matter of the semis first though.



Cant see either Murray or Fed failing to get through to the finals and then my money is on the Swiss to win yet another grand slam. It's what he does better than the Scot.




There's always a shift in power at some stage Jukey and this is the time I think.



He is a true champ and I cant see him letting this chance pass him by. There's so much at stake.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Gavos999 on July 02, 2009, 17:29:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Jukebox

On the womens side, I think it could be more wide open but I think the most likely outcome could be a final between the Williams sisters with possibly the reigning champ Venus edging out little sis Serena.



Surprise Surprise the Williams sisters are both in the final Again!!

give someone else a chance ladies ! lol

Gav
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 02, 2009, 21:01:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Gavos999

quote:
Originally posted by Jukebox

On the womens side, I think it could be more wide open but I think the most likely outcome could be a final between the Williams sisters with possibly the reigning champ Venus edging out little sis Serena.



Surprise Surprise the Williams sisters are both in the final Again!!

give someone else a chance ladies ! lol

Gav



Unfortunately a lot of the top ladies players nowadays are crap on grass.Lets hope it's a great final,they are wonderful to watch when they are both playing well! I still think it will be big sis again !:D
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 03, 2009, 18:57:33 PM
Hard luck Murray but what a performance by Andy Roddick!

Also, well done to the Fed, still on cruise control and swatting aside Tommy Haas.

Maybe now the press and journalists will actually have to acknowledge that there is a player at Wimbledon called Roger Federer and he is in the final. !
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Scunner on July 03, 2009, 19:24:21 PM
Very disappointing but I doubt he'd have beaten Federer in the final. Maybe next year [:o]
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on July 03, 2009, 19:54:54 PM
It's sad, but he is only 22 years old so he will come back next year.  Quite put a damper on our barbeque tonight... Very hot in Aberdeenshire, thank goodness.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: scorcher on July 03, 2009, 20:07:24 PM
Money and mouth spring to mind - should have gone to see Mr Ladbroke!
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Post by: Highlander on July 03, 2009, 20:21:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by scorcher

Money and mouth spring to mind - should have gone to see Mr Ladbroke!



Can you explain that post to me please.

No doubt that Murray was beaten by the better man on the day. Roddick served brilliantly and the rest of his game was very solid.
I thought Murray was a litle too tentative. Id like to see him going out more aggressively from the start of a match.

Cant see Roddick beatng Federer. I only hope he does himself justice in the final, he deserves at least that.
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Post by: tinkerman on July 03, 2009, 21:39:16 PM
oh what a shame that Scottish chap got knocked out in the semi finals.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 03, 2009, 21:51:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stoop

quote:
Originally posted by Jukebox

quote:
Originally posted by stoop

Should be a great final if they both manage to get there. My money is on Murray to make it 7-1 against Fed.

Small matter of the semis first though.



Cant see either Murray or Fed failing to get through to the finals and then my money is on the Swiss to win yet another grand slam. It's what he does better than the Scot.




There's always a shift in power at some stage Jukey and this is the time I think.



Not this year Stoop!  ;)
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: stoop on July 04, 2009, 00:23:10 AM
Maybe not at Wimbledon but it's only July  :)
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 04, 2009, 09:02:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by stoop

Maybe not at Wimbledon but it's only July  :)



Well of course it will happen eventually, everyone starts to decline, even me and thee, but as the thread is about Wimblebon and that is now, my point was the power hasnt shifted.:D
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 05, 2009, 10:34:20 AM


Good luck today Federer!  It's all in your hands!
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 05, 2009, 19:02:04 PM
What a fantastic match!

Fantastic effort by Andy Roddick but what a performance by Roger Federer!

Now officially the greatest mens tennis player of all time! :D:D:D:D

You've a long way to go Murray but good luck !
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Post by: mike A on July 05, 2009, 19:14:52 PM
What a tedious game, tennis at its most boring, boring,boring.
Such a shame.
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Post by: Scunner on July 05, 2009, 19:16:58 PM
You obviously don't understand tennis then Mike.
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Post by: mike A on July 05, 2009, 19:38:25 PM
Sorry Scunner, but I do, only too well,
and watching game after game just waiting for someone to make a mistake
is about as tedious as it gets.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 05, 2009, 20:28:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

You obviously don't understand tennis then Mike.



:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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Post by: tinkerman on July 05, 2009, 20:48:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mike A

Sorry Scunner, but I do, only too well,
and watching game after game just waiting for someone to make a mistake
is about as tedious as it gets.



Yep, thats sport Mike:D
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Post by: mike A on July 05, 2009, 21:06:05 PM
Nonsense, sport is much more than that sad display.:(
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Post by: Highlander on July 05, 2009, 21:23:31 PM
Have to disagree with you Mike. I thought it was a great display of two very talented men showing tremendous skill over a sustained period, each not willing to give the other an inch in striving to achieve their goal.

The most impressive thing for me, other than Federer's wonderful achievement of course, was the way Roddick treated one of those two imposters. Splendid.
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Post by: Scunner on July 05, 2009, 21:30:37 PM
What two imposters H?
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Post by: Jukebox on July 05, 2009, 21:37:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

What two imposters H?



Pete Sampras and Bjorn Borg who were sat courtside!  ;)
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: mike A on July 05, 2009, 21:40:05 PM
Its funny H, but I saw two very talented men showing tremendous skill over a sustained period, each not willing  to go out on a limb, take a chance or try anything different.
boring as sin.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Scunner on July 05, 2009, 21:40:45 PM
Oh I see, cheers. I thought I may have missed a couple of streakers when we went out :D

I thought it was a superb moment when Sampras arrived and received such a warm greeting from the fans.

Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 05, 2009, 21:51:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

Oh I see, cheers. I thought I may have missed a couple of streakers when we went out :D

I thought it was a superb moment when Sampras arrived and received such a warm greeting from the fans.





I thought at the time he was a bit naughty turning up after the match had started!  ;)
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: mike A on July 05, 2009, 21:52:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

Oh I see, cheers. I thought I may have missed a couple of streakers when we went out :D

I thought it was a superb moment when Sampras arrived and received such a warm greeting from the fans.




Pity he couldn't show respect to the players by getting there on time. ;)
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Post by: Scunner on July 05, 2009, 21:59:36 PM
Only people with real class know how to get a full round of applause  :)
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Post by: Highlander on July 05, 2009, 22:12:29 PM
I have enjoyed the BBC's coverage, I think it's been superb, BUT there have been moments of total madness.

1. Interviewer asked Roddick before the Final that "if he plays his best tennis, does he think he will beat Federer". What a stupid question, if he didn't think so, why the hell would he be there.

2. Summary on the News a short time ago...presenter wonders how Murray would have got on in the Final against Federer :o:(

Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 06, 2009, 00:09:59 AM
It ws good to see how the crowd enjoyed the match and intersting to see great players such as Sampras, Borg and Rod Laver make such comments as saying  the match was one of the best they had seen and a wonderful display of tennis. Praise indeed from people who know what they are talking about!
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: kenkay on July 06, 2009, 01:25:58 AM
Mike, can you please inform us why Pete Sampras arrived late. You must know as you have chosen to interpret it as a sign of disrespect [:(!] To add to Scunner's and Jukebox's assertions that you don't understand tennis, I would go further to say you don't understand sport and it's concepts.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 06, 2009, 08:19:24 AM
I read these quotes about the match which confirmed that I was watching the right match!  ;)


The final between Andy Roddick and Roger Federer had everything.

They were absolutely two class acts out there on Centre Court. - Tim Henman

 

In one of the most heart-stopping and unforgettable finals seen in a grand slam arena, Federer held his nerve for four hours and 16 astonishing minutes before finally subduing Roddick 5-7 7-6 7-6 3-6 16-14 to claim the trophy he cherishes above all for the sixth time. - The Guardian

In one of the most gripping matches of his storied career, Roger Federer finally created history by surviving the longest fifth set in a Wimbledon final, and an astonishing serving performance by American Andy Roddick, to win a record 15th grand slam title. -The Age
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: stoop on July 06, 2009, 09:13:13 AM
I have to agree with Mike to a point - tennis these days seems more about power and playing defensively from the back of the court. Grass is made for attacking tennis and net play. To me there was nothing more exciting than watching the likes of Macca getting to the net and his opponent trying to lob or pass him.

Yes it was a good match but like most tennis these days it just lacks that extra excitement that net play brings.

That's why I never watch clay court tennis - unless I can't sleep ;)
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Scunner on July 06, 2009, 09:26:51 AM
Yes but sadly for Mike the days of Fred Perry v Mr Chumley Warner are long passed.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: stoop on July 06, 2009, 09:27:13 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-1030058/Serve-volley-dying-art-Mauresmo-exit-sparks-fear-purists.html
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: mike A on July 06, 2009, 09:47:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kenkay

Mike, can you please inform us why Pete Sampras arrived late. You must know as you have chosen to interpret it as a sign of disrespect [:(!] To add to Scunner's and Jukebox's assertions that you don't understand tennis, I would go further to say you don't understand sport and it's concepts.



Ken as you have opted to join the chorus of disapproval at my remarks I find it it sad that you, with others, feel the need to assert that I don't understand sport and it's concepts just because I disagree with you.
I played Basketball for ten years in a local team, was a young gymnast, played table tennis
to a good level and was for years a seeded player in the British Carromm association, coming fifth  in the last all England final that I played in.
This, of course has nothing to do with yesterdays game, I do not dispute the skill of the players, but a defensive game won on who can serve the most aces makes for Boring, Boring tennis and this game was disappointing in the extreme.
PS.
I neither know or care why Sampras Turned up late.

"Yes but sadly for Mike the days of Fred Perry v Mr Chumley Warner are long passed."

As long as the likes of Lleyton Hewitt is around we will still see some good passionate
tennis games. ;)  
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 06, 2009, 10:20:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

Yes but sadly for Mike the days of Fred Perry v Mr Chumley Warner are long passed.



Oi, leave me out of this! :D

Believe it or not Scunner, there is a 17year old british junior prospect with the name Tom Farquharson :D
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Scunner on July 06, 2009, 10:30:44 AM
Does he have a wooden racquet and only play in black & white? :D

A Dunlop Maxply, those were the days...
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 06, 2009, 10:42:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

Does he have a wooden racquet and only play in black & white? :D

A Dunlop Maxply, those were the days...



Dont forget the commentary by Dan 'ooh i say' Maskell!:D

Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: tetmeister on July 06, 2009, 20:56:00 PM
Still got my Dunlop maxply fort Scuunner,and it still hits a mean drop of topspin.
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

Does he have a wooden racquet and only play in black & white? :D

A Dunlop Maxply, those were the days...

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Post by: Highlander on July 06, 2009, 22:32:38 PM
Does anyone remember the 1977 Borg v Vitus Gerulaitis semi-final. That really was a game of tennis :)
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 07, 2009, 00:01:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Highlander

Does anyone remember the 1977 Borg v Vitus Gerulaitis semi-final. That really was a game of tennis :)



Yes
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Post by: pashka on July 07, 2009, 12:27:47 PM
Most memorable Wimbledon Final for me was Stan Smith v Ilie Nastase in 1972, must confess to looking  up the year though.
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Gavos999 on July 07, 2009, 12:39:52 PM
Most memorable final for me was in 2004 when Maria Sharapova beat Serena williams, was always good to watch maria ;)
Title: Wimbledon 2009
Post by: Jukebox on July 07, 2009, 16:21:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Gavos999

Most memorable final for me was in 2004 when Maria Sharapova beat Serena williams, was always good to watch maria ;)




I enjoyed that but mostly for the surprise of the form book being turned upside down and the favourite getting beaten!

I can do without the grunting though  ;)