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Other Local Resorts & Areas => Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum => Topic started by: corbindallas on July 29, 2009, 13:47:04 PM
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Apologise if this is already listed somewhere but does anyone know more to the new legislation of Tapu upgrades for anyone living in apartment complexes that comes into force in November 2009, with a 1000TL fine for any individual who does not get their Tapu's updated!A friend has enquired on this as she has heard conflicting stories on this, apparently you need to get a tick in the left hand box of your tapu but it is not clear how you go about doing this properly.I have found this article regarding it but still not clear on how to sort it out.EXPATS who fail to get their title deeds on their apartments or houses in complexes fully completed by November this year could face fines of 1,000 TL each.Most tapus have a tick or cross in the middle box (KAT iRTiFAKI), but many residents believe this to be the conclusion of the buying process.In fact, residents who have been issued with a tapu with a cross in the middle box need to obtain a certificate of habitation from the Belediye to support the process for the tapu to be ticked in the left hand box.Once armed with a certificate of habitation, residents need to decide on how they go about getting the final process completed.But the bottom line is that if this process is not completed, then by government law, each individual owner could face a 1000 YL fine.It appears that this law, passed on November 2007, gave residents a two-year honeymoon period to get the matters soughted. Hence the November 2009 deadline.The Condominium Ownership Law concerns everybody who live in apartment blocks or sites
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I was talking to a solicitor about this a couple of weeks back & what needs to be done can vary. As such there's a chap called Alper Kantur that's had quite a bit of experience with this & should be able to help. His no is 02526120531.
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We bought on a cooperative and have no ticks in any boxes. Has anyone any idea what we need to do?
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Just looked at our Tapu and the tick is in the left hand box (Kat Mulkiyeti).
We bought through Interturk Estates and I suspect Cenk has done a thorough job for most of his Customers as I remember him talking about the need to get the Habitation Certificate before the Tapu was issued.
As usual - thanks Cenk ! 8)
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Originally posted by stoop
We bought on a cooperative and have no ticks in any boxes. Has anyone any idea what we need to do?
Yeah.
Get your boxes ticked :D
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Originally posted by Ian
I suspect Cenk has done a thorough job for most of his Customers
As is usual with Cenk
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hi all been a member for a while but have not needed to post,try www.turkisheconomy.org.uk/buy
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Originally posted by Crabbit
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Originally posted by stoop
We bought on a cooperative and have no ticks in any boxes. Has anyone any idea what we need to do?
Yeah.
Get your boxes ticked :D
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Ah but it's not that simple - I wish it was.
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Also does anyone know what Ferdilesme means? This is in the box under Satis Bedeli (where the purchase price normally goes).
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Oh Nikkie where are you ? 8) 8)
Ron
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We have the utilities in our name so I guess we must have the habitation certificate or I understand this would not have been allowed.
Has anyone else who bought from a cooperative had a good luck at their tapu? maybe we could compare?
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We bought from a cooperative. Took five years to get Tapu as had to be separated from the other properties. We ended up with three tapus. One for the land, then one with additional names other than us on it, then the final one with the correct names and a cross in the left hand box (kat mulkiyeti). We do not have a separate certificate for habitation or living permission but know the property is valued and registered with the council.
So this is a question for Cenk (as he seems to be the one qualified to answer and who I trust) Even if you have a tick in the left hand box do you still need a separate certificate for living/habitation permission?
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Hazel,
Does your tapu have a purchase price in the box 'satis bedeli'?
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Yes it does.
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Originally posted by stoop
Also does anyone know what Ferdilesme means? This is in the box under Satis Bedeli (where the purchase price normally goes).
"Ferdilesme" means being individual.
About kat mulkiyeti ... Sometimes they dont mark it but explain that tapu has kat mulkiyeti somewhere in the deed . So if you want to be sure, better show tapu to someone who has knowledge about tapu subjects.
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Originally posted by hazel dorrington
We bought from a cooperative. Took five years to get Tapu as had to be separated from the other properties. We ended up with three tapus. One for the land, then one with additional names other than us on it, then the final one with the correct names and a cross in the left hand box (kat mulkiyeti). We do not have a separate certificate for habitation or living permission but know the property is valued and registered with the council.
So this is a question for Cenk (as he seems to be the one qualified to answer and who I trust) Even if you have a tick in the left hand box do you still need a separate certificate for living/habitation permission?
If kat mulkiyeti box (on the left) is marked, it means that habitation certificate is obtained, you dont need to get anything else . It seems your tapu has no problem :)
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Great. Thanks Cenk.
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No problem Hazel
Did you send me an e mail ? As I saw something like that as a notification box on my screen, but it didn't come to my mailbox.
Cenk
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Cenk,
My situation is the opposite to Hazel's in that I have a copy of the Habitation Certificate but don't have a ticked box on my Tapu. My solicitor advised me that I don't need to have the box ticked on the Tapu as long as I have the actual habitation certificate. Would you recommend that I go to the trouble of having my Tapu updated just to be on the safe side?
Thanks, SteveJ
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Steve
The work for changing to kat mulkiyeti is called cins tashihi means something like changing the type
Ask your solicitor if this was done or not . If not, it must be done.
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Originally posted by cenk
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Originally posted by stoop
Also does anyone know what Ferdilesme means? This is in the box under Satis Bedeli (where the purchase price normally goes).
"Ferdilesme" means being individual.
About kat mulkiyeti ... Sometimes they dont mark it but explain that tapu has kat mulkiyeti somewhere in the deed . So if you want to be sure, better show tapu to someone who has knowledge about tapu subjects.
Cheers Cenk. Does this mean we don't have to have a purchase price in that box then?
Stu
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Thanks Cenk for reply to my question on this thread. Yes I did send you email in case you didn't see my question on this thread. Thanks again for your reply.
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Cheers Cenk. Does this mean we don't have to have a purchase price in that box then?
Stu
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If the change from kat irtifaki to kat mulkiyeti is done under the ownership of same person/s . No need to write purchase price as it is only type changing, not a sale.
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Sorry to trouble you Ceck, but we have talked about ticks and crosses on the forum in the kat mulkiyeti box. Does a tick or a cross mean the same thing. i.e. it is OK, and nothing more needs to be done. We have a cross in our kat mulkiyeti box.
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Originally posted by Denton
Sorry to trouble you Ceck, but we have talked about ticks and crosses on the forum in the kat mulkiyeti box. Does a tick or a cross mean the same thing. i.e. it is OK, and nothing more needs to be done. We have a cross in our kat mulkiyeti box.
You dont need to do anything more.
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Goodness not another legislation, can't flippin keep up with them all!!
Cenk, our Tapu has a cross in the Kat Irtifaki box, which I assume means we need to do something about it???, let me know please, but will sort in October when Stu and I are over.[:(
Hope you are well, and the lovely Olga?. :)
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we changed our tapu
the box ticked in the kat mulkiyeti from kat irtifaki
the cost was 256 tl for each villa (plot of 2)
the same for my turkish neighbour.
someone did the process for us,
maybe someone has done the legwork to the various offices involved in this process
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Thanks for all your help Cenk. We will double check with the local council when we are next over. However we have already taken the Tapu to them in order to pay our first council tax and get the utilities put in our name. I suspect they might have said something at that point if there had been a problem.
Cheers
Stu
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Originally posted by june
Goodness not another legislation, can't flippin keep up with them all!!
Cenk, our Tapu has a cross in the Kat Irtifaki box, which I assume means we need to do something about it???, let me know please, but will sort in October when Stu and I are over.[:(
Hope you are well, and the lovely Olga?. :)
June
I know your complex has the habitation certificate . So you dont have a big problem . You will change the deed from kat irtifaki to kat mulkiyeti, maybe your builder has already done it. We can search for it when you are here.
We are both well, apart from the hot here :o . Thank you.
Cenk
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There was an article published on 12th July in the Fethiye Times about this. It seems that the government has decided not to fine people after all and has simplified the process, though it doesn't quite explain what exactly needs to be done. We are in UK just now but will definately be looking to get this sorted out when we get back in a couple of weeks because we don't have living permission on our Tapu.
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Does this affect villas as well?
We have living permission and our final tapu was issued after we recieved the living permission.We pay council tax and all utilities are in our name.
Kat mulkiyeti or Kat irtifaki do not appear on ours but in the box Niteligi it says "iki katli kargir bina"
Do we have to get anything altered?
Thanks
Fi
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Thanks a lot Cenk, see you both in october.
Junex
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Iki katli kagir bina.....means Two storey building built of brick or stone. :)
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Hi all, our kat irtifaki box has dublexs mesken then under Arsa payi,it has 1/3 a cross in the kat mulkiyet box, we are on a small complex 1 of 3 villas, is this ok, ps we do not have our photos on the tapu is this ok, thanx Bee
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In the UK we would get a reputable solicitor to do the work and over here should be the same. I know things seem a little more lax here but often they aren't it just appears to be.
At least here it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to employ a solicitor.
I can't make a personal recommendation but it seems others have and I would strongly recommend to anyone who is buying land or property to pay the relatively little extra to ensure the job is done properly.
It's not necessary to use the solicitor the estate agant recommends. You have the right to choose your own. If they speak good English unless you speak excellent Turkish that would be a good starting point.
Is there already a thread on the Forum where people can make recommendations based on their experience? This is assuming they can be sure a proper job was in fact done!!! Not always easy to know until it transpires it wasn't.
The Fethiye Times web site is often a good source of information.
www.fethiyetimes.com
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Hi Nichola
How are you? Business good I hope. Can I have your recommendation for a solicitor please. Jean needs one to sort her tapu out. Just incase she has no luck with getting hold of her solicitor.
Thanks. See you soon
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just noticed, I posted a couple of questions on this topic, questions wer'nt answered and now kind find my posts at all, why would that be, and before anyone asks, yes they were valid questions.Bee
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When we bought our place, nearly 8 years ago, we did so without the help of any solicitor, it was the way things were done at that time. After I received the Tapu, I got on the internet and found a law firm in Istanbul to ask them to do some checks on the Tapu and to translate it into English. It really does help your peace of mind to have an English translation of this document but it also cost me $220 for the privilege.
Reading this topic really brought home to me the way CBF can not only offer great help and advice but can save you a load of cash.
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Originally posted by bee
just noticed, I posted a couple of questions on this topic, questions wer'nt answered and now kind find my posts at all, why would that be, and before anyone asks, yes they were valid questions.Bee
Not having the the photos on deed is not a problem . Other details of your deed seems OK.
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Originally posted by Firo
Does this affect villas as well?
We have living permission and our final tapu was issued after we recieved the living permission.We pay council tax and all utilities are in our name.
Kat mulkiyeti or Kat irtifaki do not appear on ours but in the box Niteligi it says "iki katli kargir bina"
Do we have to get anything altered?
Thanks
Fi
If it is one villa on one plot, Kat mulkiyeti or Kat irtifaki boxes do not appear.
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It is one villa on one plot so can I presume we do not have to do anything?
Thanks
Fi
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Hi all, our kat irtifaki box has dublexs mesken then under Arsa payi,it has 1/3 a cross in the kat mulkiyet box, we are on a small complex 1 of 3 villas, is this ok, ps we do not have our photos on the tapu is this ok, thanx Bee
The kat irtifaki should either have a cross or not and the dubleks mesken would appear under nitelgi.
David