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Other Local Resorts & Areas => Ovacik Discussion Forum => Topic started by: patch on August 15, 2009, 17:58:29 PM

Title: missing walker
Post by: patch on August 15, 2009, 17:58:29 PM: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8202952.stm
has anyone heard any news about this man , seems very unusual .
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Post by: kenkay on August 15, 2009, 21:35:19 PM: It does seem very odd as he is an experienced walker and was properly equipped. I just hope he turns up fit and well very soon.
Ken
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Post by: KKOB on August 16, 2009, 03:30:05 AM: Missing 6 days. I don't think it's going to have a happy ending.
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Post by: tribalelder on August 16, 2009, 06:31:44 AM: Reggie Perrin[?]
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Post by: KKOB on August 16, 2009, 07:19:44 AM: John Stonehouse? [?]
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Post by: Firo on August 16, 2009, 08:42:09 AM: I hope his family who are still in Ovacik do not ever get to read the 2 posts above. They must be worried enough without others making those types of comments.
Eric who is experienced in search & rescue situations has said that the more days that pass the outcome looks less hopeful.
We hope that he is found soon for the families sake.
Fi
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Post by: calvin 1949 on August 16, 2009, 09:44:31 AM: Here Here!!!
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Post by: KKOB on August 16, 2009, 10:05:14 AM: quote:
Originally posted by Firo

I hope his family who are still in Ovacik do not ever get to read the 2 posts above. They must be worried enough without others making those types of comments.
Eric who is experienced in search & rescue situations has said that the more days that pass the outcome looks less hopeful.
We hope that he is found soon for the families sake.
Fi

I've also had enough of experience of these type of things, and like it or not, as I said previously, the chances by now of this having a happy ending are pretty remote.

The fella is either dead or doesn't want to be found.

No doubt the Jandarma have or are continuing to question whether he and/or his wife have a motive for the disappearance.

That's the reality of it and I'm sure his family are quite aware of it without having to read it on here or elsewhere.
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Post by: Scunner on August 16, 2009, 11:37:46 AM: Isn't it also a little odd that NOBODY on CBF appears to recognise him or even his name?
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Post by: stoop on August 16, 2009, 11:50:21 AM: Doesn't look good does it?

It's strange how people can just 'disappear'. They are still no nearer finding the young woman from York who went missing in March.
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Post by: KKOB on August 16, 2009, 11:59:21 AM: And, then there's the case of John Darwin who disappeared in his canoe in March 2002, and then "re-surfaced" in December 2007.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jul/23/canoe.timeline
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Post by: tinkerman on August 16, 2009, 12:01:13 PM: Would anyone be interested in doing a search/walk party in the area?
it would have to include someone who knows the area well, maybe covering outlaying areas that may not have been covered in the present search?

Tinx
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Post by: KKOB on August 16, 2009, 12:22:51 PM: I've walked in that area several times and the Lycian Way is very well marked. However, once you get off of the marked pathway there are some treacherous drops and hundreds of places into which a person/body could disappear.

I'm pretty sure that AKUT and the Jandarma have far better resources and local knowledge of the area than any of us. They'll have villagers from Kirme and Faralya, and local walking guides, who have intimate knowledge of the terrain working with them in a methodical search. They're also using microlights and a helicopter to assist in the search.

I don't think we'd be doing them any favours by turning-up and doing our own thing and I doubt that they'd be willing to share information about un-searched outlying areas with "outsiders" at this stage.
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Post by: tinkerman on August 16, 2009, 12:30:20 PM: I'll bow to your superior knowledge Alan ;)
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Post by: Harmless on August 16, 2009, 13:33:45 PM: They have extensively covered the area of the walk and the surrounding areas, plus, just about anywhere else they think he could have wandered to.
The local villagers have been helping, as have the staff at the Dolphin and even some of the guests.
We can just hope that he turns up safe and sound.
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Post by: puma on August 16, 2009, 21:25:23 PM: i watched his wife and daughter on tv today,hope someone finds him soon
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Post by: Jackds on August 17, 2009, 14:16:14 PM: Daily Mail today.

'The wife of a Briton missing in Turkey fears he may have been kidnapped by bandits' I personally don't think that comments like this help his cause and are misleading. I too have walked that section, I have never seen any Bandits but plenty of places to disappear if your not careful. Does anybody know what time of day he started his walk?
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Post by: KKOB on August 17, 2009, 14:36:00 PM: He set of at 10am and was expecting to be back by 4pm or 6pm (Times differ according to which paper you read)

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/blackpoolnews/Family39s-heartbreak-over-missing-grandad.5559410.jp
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Post by: stoop on August 17, 2009, 15:22:40 PM: I really hope he is found safe and well.

I really think though that walking for 6 -8 hours in that sort of area, in that heat, on your own and at 67 years of age is not something I would want to risk. I wouldn't be worried about 'bandits' more about getting into difficulties when alone and maybe finding myself out of range for the mobile signal.
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Post by: KKOB on August 17, 2009, 16:39:02 PM: There's almost 100% coverage for mobiles along the entire 500 kms of the Lycian Way.

As for going out walking in those conditions for 6 - 8 hours, I agree with you Stoop, it's foolhardy.
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Post by: Jackds on August 17, 2009, 17:38:53 PM: Oops try again.... We walked along that path for approx and hour in August last year and had to turn back as it was too hot, we always do our walking now in the colder months.
Title: missing walker
Post by: stoop on August 17, 2009, 18:03:16 PM: I was thinking on your own as well.

Good there is mobile coverage though.
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Post by: KKOB on August 17, 2009, 18:20:05 PM: Apparently, the investigators have also established that his mobile wasn't switched on when he set off and it hasn't been switched on since then.
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Post by: Old Daffodil on August 18, 2009, 09:44:59 AM: I read on the BBC news that he was reported to have lost his camera and some local people directed him to a bus stop where he could catch a bus to Ovacik.
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Post by: Old Daffodil on August 18, 2009, 09:51:32 AM: Are there any photographs that could be put on this forum of the lost man?
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Post by: stoop on August 18, 2009, 10:00:03 AM: quote:
Originally posted by Daffodil

Are there any photographs that could be put on this forum of the lost man?

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/stoopo/_46210631_johnkirkham226alt.jpg)
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Post by: KKOB on August 18, 2009, 10:06:11 AM: http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/blackpoolnews/Family-vigil-in-hunt-for.5562611.jp
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Post by: Old Daffodil on August 18, 2009, 10:15:15 AM: I wonder if he has any form of identity on him such as a passsport, so that if he was confused by the heat or an accident he could be identified.
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Post by: Old Daffodil on August 18, 2009, 10:38:34 AM: What about some posters being produced with his photograph on it asking if anyone has seen him?
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Post by: Old Daffodil on August 18, 2009, 11:28:19 AM: Has anyone asked the bus drivers on the route up that way if they remember picking him up?

Do any forum members travel on the bus that would pass that way?
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Post by: Old Daffodil on August 18, 2009, 11:32:10 AM: Would it be worth putting his photograph on the Calis site as I bet more people read that one.
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Post by: Crabbit on August 18, 2009, 17:17:23 PM: quote:
Originally posted by Daffodil

Would it be worth putting his photograph on the Calis site as I bet more people read that one.

Daffodil
You should have gone to SpecSavers. :D

(http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp173/crabbit49/crab.gif)
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Post by: Old Daffodil on August 18, 2009, 18:04:37 PM: Bet I am not the only one:D

Is it on the Calis Beach one then? I know this is the Ovacik one.
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Post by: Old Daffodil on August 19, 2009, 09:26:28 AM: Just had a look and see you have put it on there!!!