Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Turkey Related Subjects => Turkey Discussion Forum (Not Calis specifically) => Topic started by: brianthegardener on October 14, 2009, 15:38:25 PM
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is it allowed to "cold e-mail" members of this forum?...i was sent an e-mail today from a member asking me if i was interested in or wanted more infomation on English and More..the new language school in Calis and asking me if i wanted more details to contact her...
sorry, but i personaly dont agree with this sort of thing..it may well be a good cause...but in my opinion its not the way forward to promote your buisness...what do members of the forum think..more to the point the owner and admin team....[?]
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No it is NOT
Please forward the email to me Brian, I will delete anyone immediately who abuses our private message system in this way.
I will also move this to to the CBF FAQ question so there is no excuse for not knowing.
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I would also be grateful if anyone who receives an unsolicited PM through CBF offering goods or services to let me know.
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copy of e-mail sent to you Keith.
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I didn`t get one. :(
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Keith has always managed this site really well with regard to this - in fact this is the only post I can remember of this type and Im sure the offender will be swiftly dealt with. Other sites are rife with this type of thing..
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There's a few points worth making here. Firstly, we put in place a joining process that prevents 99% of attempts to spam email members - the other 1% are stopped because of a further trap that alerts the admin to their actions. Secondly, it is bloody rude to even think you can use a private email facility to promote your business. We keep advertising rates incredibly reasonable (ridiculously when you compare rates with similar sized websites and forums) and will do anything we can to assist advertisers in the local (Calis) area. Furthermore, when members take time to ask if they can start a topic about something they are arranging or something they want to publicise it is almost always given the green light. We spread the word better than anyone and people who think they can use our resource without even bothering to have the courtesy to ask our permission aren't the sort of people we want here.
I don't email people who come on here saying they are looking to buy in Calis and to be honest it p***es me off that others think CBF is a free for all opportunity to harvest for free.
That's it :)
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Morning Keith,We received email from same source,ie English and more yesterday 14.10 09. Just for your info. J
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As the OFFICIAL Host Family Manager at English & More I, would like to OFFICIALLY state that this information was not posted by me ,but by some one using my contact details. The person who did this, did so I am sure with good will and with no malice intended. While we at English & More do not condone this conduct, we do recognise that this person was using their initiative to find new host families. English & More apologise whole-heartedly for the upset caused and continue to rely upon the continued support of all members of the Calis Forum.
Sine Rous
Host Family Manager
English & More International Learning Centre
sine.rous@english-more.com
0538 304 7585
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My message came from .......sine.rous.....as Host family Manager and passed on to the owner of this forum by me.....i still dont approve of this type of "cold e-mailing"...its not doing your cause any good at all..to declare it was sent by "someone using your details" offends me....over to you Scunner
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IMHO, I think it was very mature for this person to come on and write an explanation and offer an apology. Hopefully there will be a quick resolve and no-one is baying for blood!. :)
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is it really a major problem that a local education establishment is looking for host families and uses the forum to find them?
if it was someone trying to sell me something not connected with the local area I might be a bit annoyed and just delete it.
I delete half a dozen e mails a day without even looking at them, at least this one I would have looked at then thought of anyone who may benefit from this and pass it on then probably delete it.
Sorry I just don't see the big deal in this one.
Andy
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Im not Baying for blood as you put it Toky.....im offended by the message sent to me and the poor appology.."it wasnt me"...Scunner is the person to appologise to for abusing HIS forum and its members.
They didnt even have the courtesy to appologise to me in person...they did of course have the ordacity to promote there buisness to me though..only hope now is they havent "sold on" my e-mail address to other companys..along with other members of this forum[?]
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Originally posted by tinkerman
is it really a major problem that a local education establishment is looking for host families and uses the forum to find them?
if it was someone trying to sell me something not connected with the local area I might be a bit annoyed and just delete it.
I delete half a dozen e mails a day without even looking at them, at least this one I would have looked at then thought of anyone who may benefit from this and pass it on then probably delete it.
Sorry I just don't see the big deal in this one.
As a moderator of this forum i would have thought you would have "backed" the rules of the forum and its owner...supprised you havent....Scunner whent into great lenghts to show his dis approval of this method of advertising.
Andy
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Originally posted by brianthegardener
Originally posted by tinkerman
is it really a major problem that a local education establishment is looking for host families and uses the forum to find them?
if it was someone trying to sell me something not connected with the local area I might be a bit annoyed and just delete it.
I delete half a dozen e mails a day without even looking at them, at least this one I would have looked at then thought of anyone who may benefit from this and pass it on then probably delete it.
Sorry I just don't see the big deal in this one.
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As a moderator of this forum i would have thought you would have "backed" the rules of the forum and its owner...supprised you havent....Scunner whent into great lenghts to show his dis approval of this method of advertising.
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Have the rules been broken? bent? or just bowed a bit:D
No one else has complained so Im guessing it wasnt a blanket coverage of CBF.
Yes Brian I am a moderator, but Im a moderate moderator ;)
I think their are far worse things to complain about in the world and indeed Calis!
Andy
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quote:
Originally posted by tinkerman
is it really a major problem that a local education establishment is looking for host families and uses the forum to find them?
Yes it is. People become members here to enjoy the discussions and not to give up their privacy in the process. The PM facility is here to allow members to contact each other to arrange meet ups, talk about things that may have been put in the buy & sell forum and the like. CBF is not for people to join so they can spam everyone we have in our membership about things they have expressed no interest in. As you said, there is enough of that arriving in all our inboxes without CBF adding to the problem. It isn't correct to think that as there is a lot of something about, that a little more won't matter. There's a lot of murders, it doesn't mean we can knock somebody off because it's only one more. Turning up here spamming members (and not contributing to the many questions asked on CBF whatsoever) is no different to turning up at your house and without even having the courtesy to ask you pasting posters for it all over your windows.
The sad part is that if they had contacted one of us to ask if they could make a post about their venture we would almost definitely have said yes and possibly even helped promote it.
I feel entirely convinced that chasing down this disrespectful use of our forum is the correct thing to do, and if you join a few other forums that don't have that attitude you will soon appreciate why.
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What is the point in having spam filters,fire walls etc etc if anyone can breach all of them by joining this forum.Scunner was very blunt and to the point with his response which I fully support.Will he support me breaking the rules because I have a different opinion on a subject.I suspect not!regards j
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Having a different opinion on any subject does not break any rules John, inc. this one.
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Someone made a mistake.
An apology has been made.
Does this have to be dragged out any more ?
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Differing opinions are what makes the World go round. Or it is gravity or something to do with the angle of it's axis. I wish I'd paid attention.
I think it is astonishingly rude to join a forum (or a club or group) with the sole intention of promoting your own agenda. Maybe I'm wrong and that is why we are discussing it. I feel so strongly about this particular subject that I would be devastated to find out I'm wrong lol
If you don't address unsolicited contacts through OUR mail server from day one, you'll find you are inudated with emails about $65,000,000 that needs your help to get it out of Nigeria, viagra, p0rn, and various other usual suspects, all arriving with the subject "Sent from the Calis Beach Website by..." - and I'll close the place down before I allow that to happen :)
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Originally posted by KayaKoyuOldBoy
Someone made a mistake.
An apology has been made.
Does this have to be dragged out any more ?
My laptop died last night and I'm just back on and didn't see any apology yet. Assuming there is one I agree KKOB, mistake made, apology made, apology accepted, welcome to CBF, topic locked ;)