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General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: loz on December 22, 2009, 23:10:25 PM

Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: loz on December 22, 2009, 23:10:25 PM
We are considering getting another dog now we are back in the UK, I am worried about going to the Blue Cross rescue centre as I can see me returning with every dog available!
 
I have been looking at the web just to see what is about or any dog needing a loving home.  I have come across breeds never heard of before, Labraoolde, Shihpoo (Shihtzu x Poodle) PugZu (Pug x Shihtzu) these dogs are being sold as Pedigrees, and the asking price is upwards of £300 each.

Now years ago these dogs would be given away FREE as they would be classed as Mongrels due the bitches indiscriminate choice of sexual partners (in other words a promicuous slut or tart).

Can anyone please tell me when Mongrels became Pedigrees? or was this because some Posh Tart didn't keep her doggy under control?
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Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: Scunner on December 22, 2009, 23:20:40 PM
Yes we saw exactly the same on the notice board in Pet City - and yes half Alsation half labrador does indeed equal MONGREL!

Even worse, I was shocked to see something like "Seven adorable grey/white kittens, £35 each"!!!!
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: bewva on December 23, 2009, 00:15:37 AM
A few years ago you struggled to give cats away.
last year my mate struggled to get one, it took him weeks, and yes it did involve the opening of his wallet.
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: sugarybaba on December 23, 2009, 03:16:53 AM
Thirteen years ago my Maisie Shihtzu cost my mom in law £100  God knows what she would cost now   My friend in the UK got his Shi*poo for nothing from the local rescue home - he is gorgeous    Go for a dog from local rescue - they need love and a good home  Love my Maisie to bits tho but then again not many dogs I don't love :D:D:D
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: KKOB on December 23, 2009, 06:03:08 AM
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Can anyone please tell me when Mongrels became Pedigrees? or was this because some Posh Tart didn't keep her doggy under control?
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It's all about tracing ancestry. If a dog's bloodline can be traced back a number of generations, then some people will claim it to be, or have, a pedigree. It may not follow the same rules that the Kennel Club follow though. For instance, some Foxhounds can be regarded as pedigree dogs because their breeding is managed at kennels belonging to the hunt, but the Kennel Club won't accept them as pedigree.

One of the problems that's claimed by the anti-KC campaigners is that the KC encourages interbreeding to maintain a bloodline. With the latest designer dogs, there is at least some mixing of breeds and therefore mixing of genes too.

Labradoodles and the like are just this year's fashion accessory and will probably end-up being dumped for the next "must-have" next year.
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: jo b on December 23, 2009, 07:59:11 AM
Down our way there a fair number of Labradoodles costing apparently over £1000 - at the May Fayre dog show a competitor was very proud of her "2nd generation Labradoodle" ! Some of them look really lovely some look pig ugly on my opinion.

Cockerpoos are another very popular one too there is a pretty one called "Bunney" (what a stupid name) they paid £700 for her from what sounded like a puppy farm in Wales.

A friend of mine got a pedigree Doberman from  a rescue -he was only ten months old with no problems only that he was too strong for the lady that had him. So maybe worth contacting your local rescue Loz just take your head with you though and leave your heart at home....
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: Piscoe on December 23, 2009, 09:37:19 AM
Who cares unless you are looking to win Crufts? Interbreeding leads to a multitude of health issues for the poor things so let nature run it's course. If the dog turns out to be the friend and family member it was aquired to be then job done.

Please get your dog from a rescue centre, they need a home and will love you all the more for giving it to them.
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: kanga on December 23, 2009, 15:47:28 PM
http://www.boxerdogrescue.co.uk/boxersneedinghomes.htm
good website if your looking to adopt a new dog
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: puma on December 23, 2009, 23:11:21 PM
shihzu,here are £400,but great dogs to have
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: scouser2swife on December 24, 2009, 00:39:34 AM
We have a weimeraner, which we brought to Turkey when we moved here. She is Kennel club registered and so were her first and only litter of pups (all 7 of them....they were born in the U.K before we moved here). Weimeraners are very willful dogs, however they also very loyal to their 'pack'.She is a good guard dog when outside in the garden, as we don't get bothered by beggers etc.But beware they do get attatched to their family and cry and get upset when the family go away even for short periods of time.
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: loz on December 24, 2009, 01:57:47 AM
My Grandparents always had pedigree dogs Spaniels, Labradors, Retrievers, to name a few, our last dog was a Springer Spaniel, I had to take her when she was only 6 weeks old as her mother was ill and could not cope with the litter, our dear Peggy died when she was 13years old, we were totally heart broken by her death and vowed not to have another dog, now 10years on seriously considering another.

The Blue cross near to us has a few lovely little dogs, I am going to wait a few more months harden my heart before I pay them a visit, yet it could all change should one turn up on our doorstep (that is not an invite).

Back to topic,  a mixed breed dog is and always has been a mongrel NOT a pedigree,  so why are they now demanding so much money?
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: Chinook on December 24, 2009, 02:14:19 AM
When its a Chum!
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: Firo on December 24, 2009, 08:25:30 AM
My son bought a Labradoodle last Xmas and he is a fantasic dog. He was chosen for the qualities that the breed has shown.
The Labradoodle was originally created in Australia for someone who needed a guide dog but they were allergic to dog hair. They are world famous as a breed that is suitable for people with allergies to dogs hair. The Cockerpoo was created for a smaller version with the same qualities.
We have ourself a standard Schnauzer which is the true breed. Standard schnauzers are mixed with giant poodles to create Giant Scnauzers and minature schnauzers are a mix of standard with minature poodles.Both are pedigree breeds but both originally did not exist.
So where does a Pedigree start and end. I think the answer is with commited breeders.
If you want a dog where you will generally know what their temperment, size etc will be, you'll probably choose a pedigree. If you don't mind then go for a rescue dog. We have both and love them equally but they are two completely different entities...the known and the unknown.
Fi
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: kanga on December 24, 2009, 13:25:25 PM
we have a staffordshire bull terrier and a sh-tzu cross ,he is a little bullsh-t  ;)
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on December 24, 2009, 17:06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Scunner

Even worse, I was shocked to see something like "Seven adorable grey/white kittens, £35 each"!!!!



That's cheap there is an advert in the Press & Journal today. Two male ginger kittens...  take the two for £80 or £50 for one!!!
Title: When is a pedigree dog not a Pedigree
Post by: ovaciksarah on December 24, 2009, 19:34:59 PM
If you want a kitten go to cat rescues, those need homes, as long as you pass their tests to make sure you,re suitable, same as dogs, don,t encourage puppy farms, go to rescues, even the pedigree rescues, you save a life.  I,ve done both and don,t regret it