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General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: kanga on February 21, 2010, 10:30:56 AM
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We have just returned from an amazing midweek break in Kracow Poland,
We vistited Aushwitz and Birkinau Concentration Camps ,Oscar Schindlers Factory ,The Jewish Qaurter,Wawel Castle,Pope John Paul II
Birthplace and his home in Wadowice ,Wieliczka Salt Mine part of Unesco Heritage ,An Old Communist House and a City Tour in a Trabant
Car,
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accomodation + flights + tours + spends £400 per couple
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thankyou for the info but not my cup of tea,
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I popped over to Berlin last week,laid a wreath where uncle Adolph had his bunker,on to Burma for a train ride,flew to Hiroshima to lay some flowers on the grave of the unknown civilian,had a great time.
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Adolph??? We must remember how to spell when it comes to dictators responsible for the murder of millions.
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This is a bit of history ,i visited paid my respects,saw the true atrocities committed,I did not post this for a wee taking topic ,I posted this for people who might have wanted to visit this city to see for themselves what happened only 65 yrs ago,sad to see some people find comedy out of a world tragedy
kanga
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It's something I have always been interested in too Mark - I read the book 'Auschwitz' when still at school and have been interested ever since. It must be an incredible and humbling experience to actually be there.
I wasn't laughing at tragedy by the way, I was laughing at geordieboy - I can't believe anyone exists who doesn't know how to spell Hitler's name, he was quite famous.
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Well said Kanga. I know other people who have made this trip and found it very moving.
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Maybe your reputation as a p taker proceeds you Mark.I dont think anything bad was meant in above post,Distastefully done by the way.
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My post was'nt meant to be frivolous,I am only too aware of the horrors perpetrated during the second world war,I was having a pop at these places of horror meriting being a mid week break.
Sorry to have spelt Adolf wrong.
I read the same book Scunner,only in my day it was spelt Auschwitz,not Auswicth as you spelt it,but I shan't make a big deal out of it.
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Thanks for comments Krakow is a beautiful and historic city and has many things to offer. Obviously we visited these places because they are of great interest to us but on the flip side there are many things to see and appreciate, basically something to offer for all tastes. Give it a try cos am sure no one would be disappointed.
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My husband went out with a german girl who stayed near a concentration camp. They visited it together and she was quite shocked at what took place there. it is not part of learning in German schools.
I have recently spoke to a lady who was a nurse in Belston at the end of the war and she still has nightmares about what happened there.
Thanks for the info Kanga it is something I would like to do some day. The salt mine I believe is well worth a visit.
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I think going to these places is a way of showing that they may be gone but they are not forgotten. I visited the Normandy beaches and the British war graves at Caen.I cried reading the names on the headstones and worst of all the ages. Most of the dead were little more than boys aged between 18 and 24. These young lads have made the biggest sacrifice for their country and it must be never forgotten.
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.... and they continue to do so.
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As part of a tour of Thailand, We reluctantly visited Kanchanaburi to see the Bridge over the River Kwai. Had mixed feelings about going, didn't think a war grave cemetery should be part of the tourist trail but have to say the war graves sere absolutly imaculate and there was a free to enter museum that told the whole story as it happened and how the POWs were treated. I certainly learnt a lot and when you see the amount of earth they had to move manually literally cutting through mountains it brings it all home to you just what they went through. Didn't agree with actually riding on the "death train" as they call it but I suppose if it teaches the next generation the true story of what happened does the end justify the means?
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Kanga
I have just rebought a book (lent the first one and never got it back) you may be interested in.
Its about three young Jews who together organised the first underground resistant movement during the 2nd World War.
Author Rich Cohen - Title - The Avengers A Jewish War Story
It has taken me years to track this book down. It made a real impression on me. I bought it through a seller on Amazon.
Another brilliant book is by Marge Piercy - Title - Gone to Soldiers. Its a novel too, very well researched and very readable.
I learned more about the 2nd WW from this book than I ever did at school. I have re read several times and each time I learn something new.
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Originally posted by geordieboy
I popped over to Berlin last week,laid a wreath where uncle Adolph had his bunker
I think you are getting confused with the spelling of rudolph
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That would be the red nosed reindeer (ph) rather than the Nazi Deputy leader (f)
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Originally posted by Scunner
That would be the red nosed reindeer (ph) rather than the Nazi Deputy leader (f)
yeah prancer & dancers mate ;)