Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Information and Services in Turkey Section => Residency in Turkey, Visas, Work Permit Questions => Topic started by: albaman on April 02, 2010, 11:10:17 AM
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We applied via Fethiye Passport Polis on 3 December last year for residency & were advised it would take about six weeks.
When this time had passed we called in to Fethiye Passport Polis several times, sometimes with a Turkish speaking friend to aid communications.
We were told various things including: "the passports & residency are sent by diplomatic bag via the bus", "you should check at the bus station to see if the passports have arrived", "the passsports & residency have been sent to Marmaris instead of Fethiye", "the passports & residency are delivered by the Passport Polis" etc etc etc!
We then paid for a translator, Koray Atak, to help. He was eventually informed by the Passport Polis that the passports & all residency papers had been sent by normal, un-registered PTT mail! They said that the passports & Residency had been sent from Mugla to Marmaris by mistake by Mugla Passport Polis then had been sent, by normal un-registered post, to Fethiye at which point they disappeared!
Apart from the inconvenience this has caused us we have now had to pay 650TL for new passports, a few handred lira for translation, admin and transport costs, & 600TL for the residency applications, being half the cost of the applications we already paid for.
As I will not subject ourselves to this irresponsibility again we are now having to travel to Mugla to complete the process of Residency.
So, all in all, it has cost us about 1500 TL for something that we entrusted to the Turkish Passport Polis.
The British Consulate have been contacted by me but have refused to get involved, what do they actually do? Obviously not protect British citizens who have been subjected to irresponsible practises involving their British Passport!
I have instructed an avukat to try & recover our costs & the Public Prosecutor is investigating the issue. He agrees that the Pasports & paperwork should not have been sent by "normal" un-registered post. Their is also the issue of being mis-informed & lied to by the Passport Polis, not just to us but our Turkish speaking friend also.
The lesson learned is that next year we will travel to Mugla & not entrust our passports to the Passport Polis!
This is not just a "winge" but a genuine warning to others to avoid the expense & frustration & inconvenience of what we have experienced.
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Well if nothing else it's something to add to your never ending list of things about Turkey to complain about Dave. I'm quite surprised you came to CBF to tell yet another tale of woe since your move to live over there, what with your description of the forum in an email to me being "It seems to me that CBF has become a clique for cronies & is more a cause of friction & smart-ars answers than the occasional bit of useful information one can get".
It amuses me how useless some people think CBF is, yet it is the first place they run to when they have something to bang on about.
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To be fair he was only warning others to be on their guard when applying for their residency, i should think the information is invaluable to some people.
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CBF is either useful for sharing information or it is useless Janice. I don't mind which one individuals decide on, but they must decide on one or the other, it can't be both. That is the only point I made.
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So,I guess the next move will be for Scunner to lock yet another topic that he does not agree with.
Perhaps another warning should be; Don't send Keith a private e-mail as he may publish it,or a selected part of it, on the public forum that he dictates over.
I think what you may be having a problem with,Keith, is that I will not tolerate being lied to or treated unfairly by the authorities or establishment managers either in Turkey. UK, or anywhere else in the world.
You, Keith, used your forum to complain at length about a female member of CBF who you said was terrorising your family. Shortly after that you left Calis. I have always defended the rights of me and mine and always will. Leaving Calis is not an option I choose to take.
I know that part of your problem is that I criticised the estate agents who misinformed us about the complex that our property is on & said it was well managed. The site management is now being investigated by the legal authorities.
For the record, I love Turkey & have lots of Turkish friends. They all agree that beurocrasy in Turkey is damaging but the goody goody brigade of ex-pats declare "if you don't like it leave!", Pathetic small minded people!
Interestingly, you said in your response to my e-mail that "I haven't even bothered to read it Dave" yea right!
So, in conclusion, I have found CBF useful in the past but really hate the small minded smart ars responses made by a few members.
Up to you Keith, delete my post, lock the topic, bar me from CBF, it doesn't really matter. The truth will out!
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Originally posted by albaman
Pathetic small minded people!
My thoughts exactly.
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Originally posted by Scunner
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Originally posted by albaman
Pathetic small minded people!
My thoughts exactly.
Originally posted by albaman (not a selected edited section!) "For the record, I love Turkey & have lots of Turkish friends. They all agree that beurocrasy in Turkey is damaging but the goody goody brigade of ex-pats declare "if you don't like it leave!", Pathetic small minded people!"
I have had some ex-pats advise me "if you are having problems with beaurocracy in Turkey just drink some Efes & forget about it" these are the pathetic small minded people that I refer to! I prefer to deal with what is not fair, morally right, & possibly illegal by sober means. If that makes me a constant complainer in the eyes of some CBF members & the Forum Ayatolla himself then tough sh*t!
A forum is for open discussion, this one would attract more honest debate if it were not for the small minority of some CBF members & committee trying to ridicule member's postings.
So, if CBF is going to be primarily about the price of Efes & the dog police then I fear it will destroy itself!
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Originally posted by albaman
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Originally posted by Scunner
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Originally posted by albaman
Pathetic small minded people!
My thoughts exactly.
Originally posted by albaman (not a selected edited section!) "For the record, I love Turkey & have lots of Turkish friends. They all agree that beurocrasy in Turkey is damaging but the goody goody brigade of ex-pats declare "if you don't like it leave!", Pathetic small minded people!"
I have had some ex-pats advise me "if you are having problems with beaurocracy in Turkey just drink some Efes & forget about it" these are the pathetic small minded people that I refer to! I prefer to deal with what is not fair, morally right, & possibly illegal by sober means. If that makes me a constant complainer in the eyes of some CBF members & the Forum Ayatolla himself then tough sh*t!
A forum is for open discussion, this one would attract more honest debate if it were not for the small minority of some CBF members & some CBF committee trying to ridicule member's postings.
So, if CBF is going to be primarily about the price of Efes & the dog police then I fear it will destroy itself!
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So you have come to Turkey on a crusade to right the wrongs, not because you "love the Place". Dave.
I personally think CBF will last longer than you.
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Originally posted by Diverbaz 1
So you have come to Turkey on a crusade to right the wrongs, not because you "love the Place". Dave.
I personally think CBF will last longer than you.
You are entitled to your (predictable) opinion Baz. I am entitled to disagree.
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Is a Cereal Complainer someone who whinges 'cos they're not gettin' their Oats ? ;)
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Originally posted by KKOB
Is a Cereal Complainer someone who whinges 'cos they're not gettin' their Oats ? ;)
Haven't a clue what you are on about mate! You tell me!
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I'll help you Dave, Serial Complainer not Cereal as in cornflakes!!!
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Originally posted by Diverbaz 1
I'll help you Dave, Serial Complainer not Cereal as in cornflakes!!!
So you are not getting your oats Baz? Explains a lot of your jaundiced comments! :)
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Albaman
Please do not take that tone regarding My Husbands oats, he gets plenty of them. Take a good look at your own life or lack of it.
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Dave, I am not the one complaining all the time, in case you have not noticed even after it being pointed to you, it is YOU. I retired to Turkey to enjoy myself in a stress free way, yes, we all know the system is not great, it is annoying, but it is the turkish system (which you profess to love). I am not the one getting wound up all the time, it's you. I must have been one of the lucky ones, but there again I did my homework before I moved here and have gone through the various processes (house buying, residency, shipping stuff from the UK, driving license, buying car, buying scooter etc etc) virtually unscathed, but then again I went with the flow. I have posted my experiences on CBF to help others and to let people know what to expect thus making their life easier.
I like CBF the way it is, again it can be annoying at times but thats all part of it, I like the banter, unlike you who doesn't seem to like having fun, but it was also very useful to me when I moved out here for the information. When have you been on CBF except to moan or put something negative on here. You come across as the type of guy who is "the only one in step" the other 5000 (it's 6480 now just checked) odd members are wrong not you.
Dave, enjoy your retirement, you are only here once, make the most of it. You have only lived here a relatively short time, I know you have holidayed here many times, but it is not the same as "living" here. I am in my third year now and am still learning about various things, most of which you hear about first on CBF. I try and help others when I can, but I also like the lighter side of life.
Back to topic, I hope next year your residency application goes smoothly
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Very well said Barry 8)
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Mistakes do happen occasionaly (as they do in the UK and for sure elsewhere in the world).
I think it is a worry for some people sending their passports off, albeit for a few weeks so maybe it is a good thing that people will apparently soon be able to apply for their Visa in Fethiye.
Someone posted this info on CBF fairly recently.
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Originally posted by ladydiver
Albaman
Please do not take that tone regarding My Husbands oats, he gets plenty of them.
Quite right Kaz, and at least he doesn't have to pay for them, unlike some people I could mention 8) Each to their own I suppose.
Good morning everyone, what a lovely Easter weekend we have here :)
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Easter weekend!!!!! Bu**er, I forgot to have yesterday off:D:D
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Please do not take that tone regarding My Husbands oats, he gets plenty of them.
Bloody porridge:D ;)
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What a shame that this thread diminished to such a war of words. Its unpleasant to read and makes for ill feeling for everyone concerned. KKOB, I got your joke and your reason for trying to lighten up this thread. I respect everyone's opinions even though I don't agree with them all. It's good for folks like myself who seek information from this site, to hear the good and the bad info. Please all "keep the heid" and respect other people's postings. Amen!
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My thoughts exactly Toky
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Originally posted by Toky
Please all "keep the heid" and respect other people's postings.
My heid is always kept 8)
I do not see why I should accept that people who write to me to tell me why my website is useless should use it to bleat when yet another thing goes wrong for them. As I said earlier, it is either a useless waste of webspace, or it the place to which you must immediately head when you have tale of woe #235 to share.
I am neither a dictator nor "the Ayatollah" but for those who aren't fans of CBF or the way it is run, it is amazing how none of them can simply stay away! It means we have something very special here - reams have been written about how it isn't getting people to visit your website that matters, the key is working out how to get them to regularly return!
And now, in the interests of bringing this new tale that stirred up bad feeling on CBF to a conclusion, I shall use the much anticipated lock.
Don't worry, Albaman will return with another story about how the whole of Turkey is out to get him (and how he is too magnificent to let them away with it) soon enough.