Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Uzumlu Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Winklepicker on June 03, 2010, 16:40:10 PM
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Hi,
Want to do my bit for surporting new local enterprizes...and good for Uzumlu patrons.
Ozgur has a brand new 6 seater VW, starting his own transfer business.He lives in Incirkoy. Asked me to spread the word for him, seemed like a very nice genuine man. His tele number is [deleted]
I dont know the costs.
If someone uses him perhaps let us all know if reliable etc.
Thankyou.
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It would be nice if people thought to ask us if it would be ok to post free adverts, it's called courtesy - like you wouldn't stick a postcard up in your newsagent's window without bothering to ask...
Sorry but this sort of thing really irritates me.
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Also I have removed the telephone numbers, they can go back in if and when someone shows me he is Tursab registered. If he isn't, there is no way an uninsured and unapproved transfer service will be getting a free advert on CBF.
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Good job your on the ball , I didnt know any of that so thanks for saving my bacon.
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If and when he does get his licence I'm sure he'll do very well - we have no local driver and it is a nightmare trying to organise my Mums trips to Uzumlu. he could be a godsend, but as Scunner says, lets see his credentials first !!
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Got to agree with scunner and Pookie I really do wish a local could have my money for all the transfers I take, but must be Tursab registered and Insured.
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As I am the one that wrote this in the first place and it was pointed out to me the legal side of things, Ill phone Ozgar and ask him these questions, so, Ill be back!
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How are we doing on the legal side of things of this any progress?
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Hi,
Have seen two legal forms, one for the vehicle and one for carrying passengers, unfortunatley I dont speak Turkish and his English is good but I didnt understand all he was trying to say. If someone who speaks Turkish emails me for his phone number then perhaps it can be explained to him why and what we need from him.
thank you.
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Have spoken to Ozgur and his friend that speaks English, Ozgur is freelance and uses the Tursab of a company named Tutan in fethiye. Have seen 2 documents for the vehicle, I dont understand Turkish law so have emailed Scunner with these details.
Thats all I can do.
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Let's face it -if he isn't Tursab then he won't get many trips in before he's caught and fined. My guess is he's OK but it's worth while double checking.
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That isn't my understanding at all - you can't "use the Tursab" of a friend, you are Tursab registered or you aren't, there is no possibility to "use" someone else's - just like I can't use someone else's driving licence in the event of a crash if I don't have one. If anyone knows anything different please let me know.
Stoop is right on the other point, at best someone is going to have to walk the last mile to the terminal building with their suitcases when unregistered minibus drivers are finally turned around at the security check (which they are doing), at worst you'll have to pay for your own air ambulance back to the UK (selling your home may cover it) once you have disappeared over the side of the Dalaman road and your insurance company refuse (quite rightly) to pay out.
Listen, I couldn't care less if people choose to ignore the advice given. Anyone wanting his contact details can get them from Winklepicker. Then, if anything bad happens, nobody will be saying they were advertised on CBF.
Good luck.
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If you can sell your house that is:D
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Hes been to the airport loads of times and is very busy...so my guess too, is hes all legal...so scunner can I now put his phone numbers on here ?
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Originally posted by stoop
Let's face it -if he isn't Tursab then he won't get many trips in before he's caught and fined. My guess is he's OK but it's worth while double checking.
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Sorry again but no - if you can scan his Tursab membership document and email to me I'll take a look but believe me, being busy and doing lots of trips to the airport proves nothing.
I'm not being stubborn, I am keen to ensure the News at Ten story that starts "Britons have died in an uninsured airport minibus in Turkey" doesn't end with "the company was recommended by a local website".
If anyone wants to use this guy, email Winklepicker.
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hi everyone, some one who (could be registered) to carry passengers, there is a company call FETHIYE LOVE,?? and you can register a passenger vehicle and do transfers as a freelance person,along with the correct insurance that is needed, as the liecence cannot be granted, but this guy who thas vw transporter in incircoy, has been mentioned earlier that he has a registration through a second party, it is interesting as he may have all the paper work, but we may not understand and as much he may not understand,it would be good if he had the correct paperwork?
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As far as I know, all Fethiye Lovers vehicles are directly owned, but I will check that and add the information. I will repeat my earlier comment for the hard of understanding.
If anyone wants to use this guy, email Winklepicker.
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You also seem to think this one man transfer service has some automatic right to free adverts here - that is not correct either. If he has all the correct paperwork to show (in his name) let me know and I'll send him our advertising rates.
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I totally agree, that if it is a proper registered buissness, then he should pay to advertise, as we all have to with proper registered companies nothing is free,I do no people that own there own vehicles and run under fethiye lovers liecence,as iam based in uzumlu it would be good to have some body that is local,,as i have had prices from 65ytl from fethiye to uzumlu, i will try and check this guy out once iam back in turkey at the end of the month...
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I have used Fethiye Lovers many times and have never had someone with their own vehicle, just Fethiye Lovers' cars and minibuses. I know them and their vehicles. No matter, if anyone is working as a self employed owner driver on someone else's paperwork they won't be advertised on here either.
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unfortuatley people pay a fee to get onto the liecence,and i know this goes on and they are giving stickers to advertise , on there back windows (maybe you can call it a francise?) the drivers own the vehicles,if you spend time like i do it would seem that fethiye lovers have some 200vehicles on the road?????and they are not the only company out there doing this, there is also car hire companies, hiring out cars that dont belong to them,as i have dealt with many of these companies over the past 15yrs, I did look into francise of transfer liecence which is possible, set up costs are heavy that is why owner drivers have to pay early monies to the liecence holder,,,,if any of this makes sense,(also they do this in the uk)....
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Like I said, I shall ask Fethiye Lovers if they operate a "licence for sale" policy to private owners and will report back. I will ask them to read what you have stated so they are aware of your accusation.
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Nasty..Nasty ..i scunner becareful
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Sorry? What is nasty?
I will ask them if they sell copies of required paperwork to anyone who wants to pay for them, as you have claimed.
Also, be careful of what? You?
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scunner, for some body that is chairman of the bored? and some of your comments, leave a lot to be desired,I have been chairman of a company in the uk for 27years, so i the responsibilities that you have to carry. when people want to make a comment you want to blow it up and have your last say for some reason, Iam also involved with some hotels that we used for transfers, i hope this puts you in the picture a bit more, iam not trying to argue with you,but maybe you think you are all ways right.
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Blow it up for some reason?
You have accused a local transfer company of selling Tursab paperwork to anyone who wants to pay hard cash - I fear it is YOU who is making comments that leave a lot to be desired. Fethiye Lovers have offered discounts to CBF members for Dalaman transfers for a number of years and for this reason, as a responsible site owner, I want to put this to them so we can give them the chance to reply to your accusations.
The business they have from CBF members is quite substantial, if your claims in this topic are correct it is a very serious matter indeed and will most likely result in us removing our endorsement of them. I fail to see how I have "blown it up".
My guess is you were happy to make 'empty vessel' meddling and damaging allegations that you thought would only be read by their customers and others who may need a transfer but not by the owners of Fethiye Lovers, and now I have told you I intend to put your claims to them you don't want it all "blown up".
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P.S.
Answer the email I sent you, I asked you why you are telling me to "be careful".
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I have not had access to the internet for a few days so haven't been able to reply to this post earlier.
I have known the owners of Fethiye Lovers for a few years and have worked with them for around 4 years now.
The claims that are being made by 'clover' are ridiculous! Fethiye Lovers are Tursab registered, and DO NOT sell the Tursab to anyone EVER!
Nial is a member of the Tursab board in Fethiye.
The company do rent cars to cover the amount of cars they need over the season. These cars are rented legally and extra tax is paid as it is all done legally.
All documentation is readily accessible in their office if anyone wants to question their reputation.
and to Clover.... you have been invited to the Fethiye Lovers office as they would like to discuss your accusations with you, and if you could take proof to back up your accusations too.
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Thanks for following that up with Fethiye Lovers, Nikkie. It is just another example (from hundreds) of whispering campaigns that are started simply to harm people and businesses. It happened to me and people I know many, many times. Writing on here about a local company who don't speak any English, I believe, was a particularly sneaky way to harm their business - perhaps with the owners never knowing. We have no issues with Fethiye Lovers here at CBF after a number of years experience and I felt it important to let them know what they were being accused of in order that they have the opportunity to reply.
clover/Colin Martin should take up the offer to go and see the paperwork. Of course, these people prefer not to deal in facts. They much prefer to spread their own rumours and lies about good people and good companies.
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Hear Hear Kieth! When you look at the spelling and the grammar of this persons posts it begs the question do you really want to do business with him? He will not be able to submit the most basic of paperwork correctly for any business both in the UK and here. "I have been chairman of a company in the uk for 27years, so i the responsibilities that you have to carry." Being the chairman of a company of one or two people does not really count!
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My thoughts entirely Eric.
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Wots up wiv is gramma sound quit gud to me.
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ah, but you're only a duck so what do you know ?!!! ;):D
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Someone said he was Quackers!!!!
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Originally posted by calvin 1949
Someone said he was Quackers!!!!
Dont forget mate I know wot u wos up 2 wile er indoors wos awey.
;)
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:o now now boys, play nicely !!!:D
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hello everyone,
we have been informed about the issue and just waited until we had some information about the guy, Cloover. we think that it is high time we explain everything.
We have been doing this business for more than 10 years now and have been one of the most strict followers of the illegal transfer drivers and vehicles. No one can accuse us of renting or selling our licences. If someone, any minibus owner as he claimed, say and prove that we have rented our Tursab licience, we are ready to quit this business tomorrow. My father, the founder and owner of the company is a member of Tursab board in Fethiye. They have a meeting once a week and illegal transfers are the main topic of each meeting. Even the barmen or waiters try to convince people to do their transfers in this town, unfortunately, there are people that accept it unconciously or ,even worse, conciously just to pay a few pounds less. All our cars have 3 different type of insurance(car insurance,seat insurance,traffic insurance) as this is the rule. Every year we pay Tursab for keeping our licience valid. All our drivers are fully insured and registered.
We wished him to come and visit us in our office and checked our licences before commenting and asked us about 'licience rent'. He is telling that we rent cars or minibuses from other people; that is right. Thanks to god that we have a good business and even though we buy new cars every year, we still dont have enough compared to the business. Therefore, we rent cars but not for a day or a week as he guessed, but for 6 months. We do the rental agreement in 'Noter' and send a copy of it to the tax office and to our accountant. We pay extra tax for each of these cars as we use them to gain money. EVERYTHING IS LEGAL. Some people may have said that their car has licience from Fethiye Lovers; but that cars are working for us, we buy the petrol, we pay the tunnel,parking,insurance; so we get the payment back from the customers. Because after the 6 months of rent agreement these cars or minibuses are our own vehicles for this duration.
Hope everything is clear now.
Instead of waiting for Colin, we have decided to go and visit him and talk face to face. We publicly make it known here that we will sue him for his untrue words about us.
FETHIYE LOVERS TRAVEL AGENCY
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by the way,
we thank Scunner for his professional attitude and Sunnyd for her backing up and help. we appriciate it.
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Well said Ertugrul:D
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Well said, over to you now Clover!!!!