Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Information and Services in Turkey Section => Residency in Turkey, Visas, Work Permit Questions => Topic started by: Turktaz on July 21, 2010, 13:10:51 PM
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Hi
I have just read through the numerous comments about the change in tourist visas. As chairman of the Ovacik residents association with my former chairman colleague we put a petition to the Turkish Authorities about 4 years ago to reduce the fees or to make no fee if resident over 5 years. Many of you may have signed our petition. It also asked for the process to be simplified. Now 4 years later we have enabled visa renewal in Fethiye (not Mugla as in the past) but at more than twice the cost. It is therfore not surprising that many Brits felt that using the Tourist Visa process was the way forward. Many of us just want to live here in our retirement and continue to contribute to the Turkish economy there our living here every day!
In the light of these new changes surely we should not be comparing Council Tax costs, Uk living costs or anything else. We should be lobbying for equal treatment to other EUROPEAN countries such as Germany and either not have to pay for a residency visa or at least pay no more than the Tourist visa cost.
Also what changes if any have been made for Turkish Citizens who visit the UK and who become residents? Surely as we are supposed to have a reciprocal agreement between Turkey and the UK the same rules and costs should apply to each others citizens.
Your comments are welcome! maybe we can start a new campaign.
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good points raised Turktas, interesting that Turks in the past who worked in Germany only had guest worker visas and not the right to live after they nolonger worked I think thats right.
Also of note the Brits are the supporting Turkish EU membership.
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i dont think your past petetion had any effect at all. and i dont think you can claim to have enabled visa renewal in fethiye as you say, this was done as part of government decentralization policy as was the change of citizenship exams to be autherized and regulated in mugla not as before in ankara.
you do need to do your homework and find out exctly what changes have been made as you ask before complaining about it.
having said all that i do admire you at least you are getting up off ur ass and trying to do something about it.
i personally think the way to go about it is not to send petitions to the turkish government,
but find the people who are still registered on the british electoral role (and there are many here) get them to write to there mp in the uk and complain. they have a duty to respond and get through to the government departments that have the power to negiotiate and do something about it.
this kind of thing is a very hot issue in the uk government..what was it they said preelection? all about fairness!
right am off my soap box and going for a beer....cheers!
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I think once we have got the dolphins sorted out we should hold a peace protest and all join hands round the British Consulate in Fethiye :D
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What like a seance, is there anybody there:D
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Maybe we could link hands around the Efes warehouse too?
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Tony correct me if I am wrong but was the response basically from the Turkish ministry along the lines of that you have had your say and that they will not entertain any more correspondence on the matter.
The reason given for the high fee was a tit for tat with the fees that the UK charges Turks.
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https://www.visainfoservices.com/Pages/Content.aspx?Tag=VisaFees_PAGE can not see that being the case Turkish fees are half the price?
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I was at the Ovacik residents meeting where this was discussed. It is not whether there is a case or not.
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But its not the tit for tat case, as you can see buy the link above the 2010 fees for turks are a lot cheaper than the 2010 residency fees for UK passport holders.
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The statement in relation as to the high level of fees was contained within the ministry communication. The reason why fees are lower for other nationalities is because the fees the Turks pay to enter those countries are lower.
If you take the UK fees and calculate them on the basis of average income of a UK citizen against a Turk they are higher.
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Originally posted by Ovacikpeedoff
Tony correct me if I am wrong but was the response basically from the Turkish ministry along the lines of that you have had your say and that they will not entertain any more correspondence on the matter.
The reason given for the high fee was a tit for tat with the fees that the UK charges Turks.
But you did not say that iE other nationals you stated the UK.
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What have other countries got to do with the fees they charge the UK resident. The Turks deem what the UK charges its citizens is too high.
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i give up one minute its tit for tat now you say its to do with salary i admit defeat, i just have not got a clue what you are now going on about.
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Good I am glad you gave up I was going to get a Noddy book out to try and explain it to you.
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You just summed up what i thought about you with that post Big head oooops sorry big ears.
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You obviously talk through another part of your anatomy as it is a load of old bull you come out with.
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Back on topic or locked. Only one warning guys!
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Oh dear! I thought I would have got some clarity on the visa situation but, sorry to say,
this appears to have been a bit of playground squabbles.
Can someone tell me exactly what the new visa rules are as it would appear that no one seems
to know when the new rules are to be applied or what they are.
Some friends of mine who have owne a property in Fethiye have decided to return to the UK
sooner than planned andc clarification of the visa situation has been less than clear.
Many thanks.
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Originally posted by Turktaz
Hi
Surely as we are supposed to have a reciprocal agreement between Turkey and the UK the same rules and costs should apply to each others citizens.
Your comments are welcome! maybe we can start a new campaign.
I don't know that we do have a recipricol agreement. For example Turks have to apply to get a visa to visit the UK, a long winded and arbitory system, requiring UK sponsors, details of sponsers earnings and assets and bank account details, plus own proof of earnings, bank accounts, evidence of ownership or property or a business, etc.
And then they can be denied a visa. The application fee and appeals have to be paid for.
We on the other hand can just book our flights, turn up at passport control with our 10 quid visa and walk straight in.
And we in Turkey don't have to return back to the UK to apply for a fiance visa either and wait while some beaurocrat decides your life.
Turks have to return and apply for a fiance visa and this too can be denied.
Just a couple of examples of how its not such a recipricol agreement...
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Well said nichola. now get back into the kitchen! lol.