Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Flights, Airlines and Airports => Flights to Dalaman and Turkey, Airlines and Airports => Topic started by: ortaca7 on August 17, 2010, 18:21:08 PM
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Just been on sky news that kiss flights have ceased trading-how many more i wonder
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Many more I think :(
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Bummer!!! only on 12th August did someone post ( {A Link to an old CBF topic was here - no longer available}37041 ) that this airline was going from Bournemouth and now 5 days later they have "flown the nest" oh well Gatwick here we come again.
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Every one that goes to the wall leaves a firmer grip for the likes of FTC - each and every airline that goes bust is a total disaster for all of us, whether we used or would use them or not.
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Totally agree Keith. Prices already sky high and this won't help.
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The kiss flights from bournemouth to dalaman 2011 were i understand to be thursday flights . The thompson flights on mondays/ fridays to dalaman from may 2011 are priced @ £140 more each:-\ that the kiss flights were advertised ,,
this would have saved hard earned money, and saved many locals in the south coast area the travel up to bristol or gatwick .[ including us ]
8)Good news out this morning is that, Thomas Cook have a friday flight going out for the first time next year june 2011 prices around £125 cheaper than thompsons @ £228 return in june for e g
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I was due to fly out with Saga airlines, so was affected by this. Luckily I have managed to get flights on the same dates flying with Thomas Cook.
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Had very lucky escape last night,so close to booking kiss flight, flying out of Bournemouth on Tue 14 Sept, Oyken hotel had no vacancies till the 16th so was waiting for e-mail from Delta hotel to stay there 14 - 16th. got fed up so went to bed, thinking I Would book to-night.
P.S Kiss base line price of £418 including taxes, return for two, shot up to £550 if you actualy wanted to board the plane with your partner with a bag !![:(!] Bag fees, seat fees, booking fees,card fees,
sit together fees, air on flight fees ect.ect
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Not a lucky escape for us.Only the other day I posted a topic about Saga Airline changing our flight times. Now they have ceased trading.
Over 60000 of us have booked with them What a friggin nightmare.
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I have been effected by this and received a text message last night saying my flight next week has been cancelled!
Gutted! Unsure whether I am going to be able to afford another ridiculously priced flight, anybody seen any slightly decent deals recently?
Thanks
Heather
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Where from?
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My neice was on the Kiss flight leaving Dalaman this morning that went ok.
I priced flights up yesterday for my son wife and baby to come in Sep. Out with easyjet back with Thomas Cook at 1pm Uk time was £460 at 11pm was £582, the flight companies have no morals
Mark
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Oh blimey how many more....feel for you guys that are effected have been with XL at the time and Gav and Ben with Goldtrail...I know whats its like.....
it really makes you think long and hard about who to book with and as already happened the big boys cash in by increasing the flights to ridiculous prices....should be some law in place...
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Monarch have bumped up next years prices by over £40 in the past hour,
:-\
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Are Kiss and Saga one and the same compny???
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Yes I think so also including Viking
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well my sister and her family is at the airport as we speak waiting to board a sgx flight fingers crossed
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Originally posted by milliemars
Are Kiss and Saga one and the same compny???
No - Kiss just sell seats and Saga are a Turkish based airline.
I think Kiss sold seats on Viking Airlines who are Swedish.
Some info - Seems a previous XL director is involved with Viking:
http://news.ulookubook.com/Kiss-Flights-Website-Now-Established-20089511220.html
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Some info - Seems a previous XL director is involved with Viking:
Yes, and next week he'll set up as another company, run for 18 months and then go belly up taking peoples hard earned cash. Makes me so angry, shouldn't be allowed!!
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We have just re-booked our flights at a cost of £100 more.It is with Thompson so fingers crossed they wont go down the pan before we go.
The ironic thing is that the original times we wanted but were changed by Kiss/Viking/Saga/Travel Republic etc are the ones we have got now with Thompson.At a cost of as I say £100.Now all we have to do it find our payment data if we can find it to get our ATOL refund.Probably be a 6 month wait for that. I do hope that all those that have been affected by this can get themselves another flight ok at a sensible price.That is as many are saying "if" they can afford it.This shambles is happening too often now and will go on until something is done to stop it.
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Hi all,
Well I think I am giving up on this one. I booked another flight online last night with beach.co.uk and was waiting for my confirmation email. I received an email this morning that wasnt a confirmation but a cancellation. They have said that due to the massive rise last night the price I booked it at could not be kept and that they have cancelled my flight.
As a 'goodwill' gesture they havent taken the cash from the card so i wont have to go through a second refund procedure!
Arent they kind??
So think its another week at work for me! Good luck to anyone keeps trying but I cant be paying £400 for a flight only! Ridiculous!
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Thats out of order and they are blatantly telling you that they can more or less cancel anyones flight because they want to charge them more money. Surely thats illegal.The more you hear about things like this the more you want to say stuff your flights we will stay at home. Just like more and more people are now doing as the cost of going abroad for a couple of weeks is getting far too expensive.
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That's very bad Heather and I feel for you. The swines appear to be able to do what they want and you can bet the small print will make it legal.
Sorry you've lost your holiday at the last minute - I know how much you were looking forward to going back to Calis after so many years away.
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Im a manager of a very large travel agents with one of the big companies, I really feel for all the people affected with kiss and goldtrail,however the amount of clients who we quote and then go and book with one of these companies sometimes to save as little as £10 each is amazing! One customer in particular stands out, priced her 2 weeks in Icemeler 28 aug 10 2 people self catering 4 * £790 with Thomson she said she could get a better deal with goldtrail, 2* self catering £770, after the collapse she rebooked herself with kiss for £800 including accomodation then came into my shop on monday wanting my help, £1570 paid out and no holiday wanting to book the 4* icemeler deal I found back in april needless to say now fully booked!Im sure there will be more companies in the near future in difficluties so sometimes its worth the extra for peace of mind and then face to face service . :)
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Surely thats not always the case.Just because you pay more for a flight does'nt mean the company you booked with wont go down the pan.Look at XL a massive company whose prices were not the cheapest and what happened to them.I dont think it really matters who you book with these days you are always at risk of some disaster happening.We booked through Travel Republic for hotel and flights.They are not a small company yet Kiss was one of the main companies they used for flights.When Kiss went down the first thing Travel Republic were urging us to do was to contact them to arrange new flights.We did'nt though needless to say.
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Not sure I agree fully with dulux. I would feel safer booking with the likes of Thomson and TC than through one of the companies that sell seats on other people's flights such as Kiss and H4U etc. OK there is no guarantee they won't go bust but they are much larger and have a business model which has worked for them for years.
As for XL - well they were put in debt for a huge amount when Phil Wyatt bought them with borrowed money in 2006. He had to take on massive loans to buy them and knew it would only work if the business stood up to it and was able to service the debt ---- it didn't and the rest is history.
Nothing is 100% safe I agree and it worries me a little when I see the likes of Monarch releasing flights over 12 months in advance. This is an obvious attempt to get money in their bank account for as long a period as possible by selling the flights a little cheaper than you might expect to pay in 12 or 13 months time. However what happens if the price of fuel rockets in the meantime? Are they buying the fuel now for a flight in 12 months time? My guess is they are not.
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I agree with you stoop and have to say in the light of what has happened it has deninately made me reconsider how I book, the likes of A1 Travel, Airflights, Flightline I have booked with many times in the past and dont have a gripe with them other than you dont know who they have placed your booking via, so it would appear that there us always more chance of a problem.....whilst it may be more expensive i am booking direct at the mo...Monarch for October, Not saying as you have said Stoop that this is 100% but I feel more comfortable at the moment doing this, at the end of the day we all work hard for our hols and whilst we know we will get our money back if anything happens, we still have to wait for that and pay again, or not go....and thats hassle I can just do with out having been caught up with Goldtrail, ironically when we came over in May our flights were via Kiss!!! lucky escape...
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Well I won't use A1 again as I ended up flying Onur this year and to be honest the saving just wasn't worth it.
We'll pay a bit more not to use them again.
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I wont use A1 again! When I contacted them the morning after the Goldtrail collapse they told me I could rebook my own flights with Tompson (because they couldn't offer Tompsons) and get my money back ..... they omitted to tell me it would take 6-8 months to get my money back - from the CAA . Disgusting mis information. Its only the big boys for me from now on (only one risk not three) and even then it will always be on Visa!
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I can't help agree with most that has been said.I just feel that if everyone was to only book with the big boys as also has been said it will just push up the prices of flights.Lets face it the big boys are the ones that are pushing up the cost of flights as soon as one of the little ones go bust.It will just do away with competition and they will charge as much as they can, Its a no win situation for us that need to buy a flight.We already have extras on top of the cost of the flight.Meals/Seats/Leg room/Baggage etc all to add on.
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Anyone know what happens to the people already out here that booked via Kiss and flew on SAGA. Are they able to get back to UK on the flights they booked? I have holiday makers next door and this affects them.
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From what I have been told they will be able to get home quackers.
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Two nights ago booking TC flights for end of Aug/beginning of Sept directly via their website it was showing flights available at a certain price and we proceeded to book them, twice it came back after giving credit card details in at the final stage 'This flight is no longer available and you have not been charged' They were available but the price kept increasing, on a third attempt the flight was finally booked at £75 more than first advertised. So my theory is they saw ex amount of persons looking for flights and kept putting the price up - is this legal when you are allowed to go through the whole booking proceedure to be informed at the end when you normally just wait for the confirmation?
Having previously used XL and Kthy who were large companies no company is 100% secure, however, never had trouble claiming money back via the credit credit company within a few days of making a claim.
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Denise,
I have had a similar experience recently with British Airways.
In the past, your booking would be "held" for a few minutes to allow you to complete - but now its all "real time". You don't actually have a booking until you have paid - so if others are trying to book at the same time as you its a race to complete the booking.
If someone else completes before you and there are no seats left at that price than you have to start again and will get a higher price. Its standard policy for most airlines to change (increase) prices as availability decreases.
Unfortunately this is bound to happen at times like this when lots of people are trying to rebook flights in the same period and the flights are already fairly full.
So, the message is, have everything ready and do it as fast as you can !
Incidentally, with BA, there were no seats left at all so I had to start again with a different airline !
Ian
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Thanks Dulux
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Thx Ian thought this was the case, couldn't had typed any faster! had everything there, including credit card, names, DOB's, it was just they said the flight was not available anymore but this wasn't the case - oh well got them in the end at around £165 per person then the next day they were £290 per person and then disappeared so grateful for that - it was to get daughter and grandkids back, school missed by 1 day!
Hope you got sorted
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According to the Sunday Express - 20 more firms to go bust this autumn :(
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Originally posted by stoop
According to the Sunday Express - 20 more firms to go bust this autumn :(
I would'nt be surprised at all if that was correct stoop.The way things are going only the super rich will be able to afford all these new higher prices that will obviously come in when another firm goes bust.
On the subject that when you look online at a certain flight and the price goes up.. Well whenever you do go to those sites it is monitored by them. They log where you want to go and at what time and from what airport and they log your ip address.If you dont book on your fist visit to that site on and go back to book on the same pc a bit later they know its you from your ip address.Thats when they increase the price.Its an automatic thing they do to get you to pay more.Been happening for a long time now.
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Originally posted by dulux
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Originally posted by stoop
According to the Sunday Express - 20 more firms to go bust this autumn :(
I would'nt be surprised at all if that was correct stoop.The way things are going only the super rich will be able to afford all these new higher prices that will obviously come in when another firm goes bust.
On the subject that when you look online at a certain flight and the price goes up.. Well whenever you do go to those sites it is monitored by them. They log where you want to go and at what time and from what airport and they log your ip address.If you dont book on your fist visit to that site on and go back to book on the same pc a bit later they know its you from your ip address.Thats when they increase the price.Its an automatic thing they do to get you to pay more.Been happening for a long time now.
That's why it's best to periodically remove your cookies for these sites. It's easy to do and stops them tracking you.