Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Calis Bar and Restaurant Questions and Discussions => Topic started by: suzi Q on August 29, 2010, 16:48:18 PM
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After spending a month in Calis I feel I have to make a comment about Bostons Restaurant.
We tried most of the restaurants on the front all very nice no problems but waiting over an hour in between courses was a bit beyond belief.
Had a drink, ordered food nothing extra special just spag bol, first course came after 20mins, not a problem then we waited for second course after 50 mins ask the waiter was it likely to be much longer he just laughed and walked off. After getting the attention of another waiter we asked again he said 5 mins, after another 15mins and getting rather past eating the meal it arrived! As soon as it came up we requested the bill then paid for it and left without eating.
didn't eat in there again.
They knew we was annoyed and reduced the bill by 20 tyl but we paid nearly the full amount anyway. There was no apologies. Money wasn't the issue! We sat to see the sunset 7.30-7.45pm and left at 9.50pm and only had starters and a drinks.
was wondering if perhaps the gas bottle run out or had to go to Italy for the spaghetti! :D
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In our experience this used to happen more often in the past. I don't know if you ordered more drinks Suzi, but this is clearly what the restaurant was hoping for.
It is always a difficult situation, I would be for walking out but Mrs H is much more tolerant, so we would probably have stayed.
Again it's difficult, but paying the nearly the full amount will have taught the restaurant no lessons. If I was going to pay I would have eaten that's for sure.
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But once again, why is it so impossible to get an apology? It is the profession of the waiters to wait on tables so nobody should be more experienced in working out that this simply isn't acceptable. As for "5 minutes", let me tell anyone new to Turkey that it translates as "I have no idea how long [something] will take and I can't be bothered to find out". Still, that is no worse than laughing and walking away. One thing is for certain, in the 200+ situations I have experienced in Turkey where the answer given is 5 minutes, the actual outcome has never once been even close to 5 minutes.
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We found Calis to be VERY busy this year, and had to wait far too long in a few restaurants, which is unusual.
Our 18 year old daughter flew out to join us for a week, and she just loves the Roka. We've never had any problems and have eaten there many times (it's close to our apartment). As it was her first night, we went there - it wasn't particularly busy, though there was a largish party booked in later. Our meals were so slow, we all lost the urge to eat, having had a couple of beers, which killed our appetite. My daughter's pasta was barely enough to feed a young child, let alone an adult, and the starters were almost non-existent for six of us! We didn't complain, as we love the restaurant, and this really is very unusual in our opinion.
This happened to us in two or three other places during our holiday, always when we had family with us, and after we had praised up the restaurant beforehand!!!
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Incosistency in many restaurants is a problem How many of us have praised the food and service of so may places to find people go on our recommendations and experience an off day?
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Overall I would still recommend Bostans, although we did wait an hour for a pancake.
The waitors kept saying 5 minutes, but eventually said sorry no pancake.
It was the end of the night so not too bad, we did buy a few extra drinks...
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Maybe the waiters and chef could be introduced to each other (http://www.calisvilla.co.uk/laughing.gif)
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With that sort of recommendation Fred, we won't be in a hurry to go in. :(
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One hour for a pancake? Blo ody hell was the chicken on strike?
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Originally posted by Highlander
With that sort of recommendation Fred, we won't be in a hurry to go in. :(
Can only agree H, I am not anti-Bostans at all (seriously!) but that is one of the worst comments about restaurant service I have ever read (and I've read tons). To be palmed off again and again for an hour, then to be told they won't be making it at all is absolutely disgraceful and unforgivable. Coupled with the original post about the spaghetti bolognese that took an hour to arrive there does appear to be something seriously wrong at this restaurant. At least that eventually appeared I suppose.
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I got the feeling that the chef had left for the night, they should have just said so, would have been fine with that.
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Having just returned from the Roka tonight. I felt I had to add a comment about Julesbob303 complaint. I do not have a small appetite think you would call it average and tonight I had Pasta with beef chunks and mushroom sauce which was hot and delicious, was plenty for me, in fact struggled with the last few mouthfuls but could not leave them as it was so nice. As for the starters there was a table of five behind us who did have good appetites and when they had finished they just request another potion which was promptly served. These starters are not charged for and I can see the sense in serving a small portion to start with as once bread is cut it becomes stale quickly but they are always happy to bring more. Have eaten a lot at Roka after being introduce to them though their charity meals last winter for the Callis Carnival. We have never had a bad meal there and drinks are a reasonable price so just felt had to reply.:D
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Hi Jan, I totally agree with you - as I said, we love the Roka and have eaten there many many times. Which is why we didn't make a fuss and complain! We have never had a bad meal there until this particular evening. I think they may have been short-staffed that night, and just not coping. We could easily have asked for more starters, but the main meals are usually quite large, as you say, so the free starters were not really any big deal. However the main meals were disappointing too (very small portions - though the guilthead fish was superb!) The desserts were also very small portions. We don't normally get as far as the dessert menu as we are too full after the main meal! :-\
It certainly didn't put us off and was the restaurant we chose for our final meal, before returning home. Luckily all was back to normal this time! :)
My moan on this thread was more that the service was very slow on this particular night, as we know the food is normally good. If it was the first time that we had eaten here, I would have been put off returning for a second time. As it is, we know that they are usually excellent - and it will be the first place we return to in October. :D
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Dont understand the post - you seem to have a loyalty to this particular restaurant so you didnt want to 'make a fuss and complain' yet you make a negative comment on the forum and everyone else joins in ......?
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I quite agree Hillside, if you have a particular soft spot for one place, you give it more leeway. We have just come back from Calis after spending three weeks there. It was our second time in Calis, our tenth in Turkey.Last year we stayed at the Malhun but after an awful week there, for reasons which i won`t go into now, we cut our losses and spent our second week at Bostan`s Hotel. We were made welcome and enjoyed the rest of our holiday. This year we booked direct to Bostans again and can I say on behalf of the three of us a massive Thank You to Recep, Carol and the staff for making us so welcome again. Few hotels give you such warmth and hospitality, but more importantly, it is a genuine warmth and hospitality. We found the food excellent throughout our stay. a menu with plenty to choose from and if it wasnt on the menu, they were pleased to cook whatever was wanted. The only time food took any time to arrive was with dishes that stated "please allow one hour" or "two hours" for the clay pot dishes. Looking through the various pages on different eating places, I do notice that there are far more criticisms than praises. Mind you the saying goes that "Everyone`s a critic". Or is it the British disease of knocking , moaning and whinging that has become a focal point in our culture. We feel that because we can say things over the world now , that we must try and make what we say more important. But it tends to be over destructive rather than constructive.I often wonder if the critics of various places actually wait until they can get on here to complain rather than saying something at the time.I suppose its easier to hide behind a screen. Anyway may i again say thanks to Recep and Carol for making this years stay memorable for all the right reasons, and for anyone going to Calis for the first time, you could do a lot worse than stay at Bostans
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Originally posted by Anita Brian and Aslan
I do notice that there are far more criticisms than praises. Mind you the saying goes that "Everyone`s a critic". Or is it the British disease of knocking , moaning and whinging that has become a focal point in our culture.
What on Earth are you talking about? People pay good money and if they are served up rubbish or are made to wait over an hour (and in one case told after that hour that what they ordered isn't coming at all) then I think they have every right to share their experience and we have every right to have a place to read it and take on board the information.
Why is that a "disease"? Do you seriously think that when people aren't happy with the service given and tell a local forum, that they are "knocking , moaning and whinging" - I think that most people would agree that they are telling their experience of an establishment, so that others are forewarned should they also be considering trying the same place. The review isn't forced onto others, they can choose to take it or leave it too, as is the way with grown adults with their own brain.
Scunner
Good reviews on CBF: Around 400
Bad reviews on CBF: Around 3
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Well put Keith!
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Scunner, I think you should keep your life in perspective, we are not talking about the service at all the 5* gourmet eateries that flood the front at Calis, we are talking about people that try their best to offer a service. OK it goes wrong now and again. trust me I know, I support Bolton Wanderers. So in the greater picture, complaining `cos a meal is a little longer than expected , is not wrong, but needs to be taken in context. By the way, we were in Bostans that night and there is a fuller picture to be seen about what happened, but that is just my opinion.I wonder if you sit in judgement on all that is posted here, or if you try to give a balanced view ??
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Is telling someone for an hour that their food order was coming, then at the end of that hour saying actually no, it isn't what you would call "trying their best"? It is rich of you to wonder whether I "sit in judgement on all that is posted here" - since you have been members for 5 minutes and have judged those who have an opinion different to yours on the subject of Bostans "knocking , moaning and whinging" types.
You weren't members of this forum before you went to Calis and now you have an opinion that you have to share on your return about Bostans. Your opinion is valid and for the consumption of all. People who wait an hour, or like myself get served rubbish have an opinion that should not be put on a public forum. I don't expect you to see how ridiculous that is. I wonder who pointed out this forum to you, since you first went to Calis last year and only joined after getting back from Bostan's this year? Surely they didn't give you a sob story about that nasty CBF and you promised to set the record straight immediately upon your return like a knight in shining armour.
My experience of Bostans was poor. The original poster in this topic also had a poor experience and someone else waited through an hour of excuses for something that was never coming anyway. Argue all you like, I'll be here to play - but I think you are the one who needs to find the balanced view you accuse me of not having.
For me the subject was closed as my experience was poor but not life threatening. Whilst there are people like you who come to CBF to tell the World that I am wrong and it is brilliant, I will always be here to explain that I am not wrong. Vive la difference, I'm glad you enjoyed your stay there and I have many friends that like it there too, but because you liked it doesn't make others liars.
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Ouch!!!
Was that the sound of feathers ruffling, or is that just my opinion, which it appears to be of little importance until i have served some sort of apprenticeship on the forum. To criticise but not be criticised seems to be the order of the day. Must learn that lesson quickly. May also say that i object to you saying that I called anyone a liar. I merely stated my opinion
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Ah, yet another new member who doesn't feel the need to introduce themselves, wades in disagreeing with someone's opinion then claims they aren't allowed to have an opinion because they are new and aren't part of the "clique". We have only had around 500 of those before. So, to state the facts - you are allowed an opinion, it is in this very topic, unedited, not deleted. You are allowed to criticise, that too is in this page unedited and not deleted. I have been here for 7 years, 350,000 posts and the arrival of 7367 members, would you believe including the occasional knobhead. My experience also tells me that people who claim to have "ruffled some feathers" came here to specifically try to "ruffle some feathers" and trust me we have had way better than you. What you see here is not someone with their feathers ruffled, it is someone who administrates this website doing that job.
Now, someone claimed previously said that they waited for a hour for a pancake at Bostans and after all the times that they were told it was coming, ultimately they were told it wasn't coming. You said you were there last night and that there is a fuller picture to be seen about what happened - this means that they aren't telling the truth - so object to saying that you called anyone a liar all you like, that is exactly what you imply.
You can argue all you like but as I always explain to people that bleat that they "haven't served their apprenticeship" - everyone is welcome on CBF and 99% feel it. People who walk into a bar for the first time and join a conversation without introduction to argue are always likely to get a reaction from the regulars.
Now please give those 7000+ members the respect of introducing yourself before carrying on your angry fight for justice for Bostans.
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I have no angry fight for justice , neither have i come on here to ruffle feathers. The fuller picture does not imply lies, it implies that there was more truth that needed saying. That was my point, However I tip my forelock to your lengh of service and considerable postings and shall sit in awe of your experience giving unbiased opinions.
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Now, someone claimed previously said that they waited for a hour for a pancake at Bostans and after all the times that they were told it was coming, ultimately they were told it wasn't coming. You said you were there last night and that there is a fuller picture to be seen about what happened - this means that they aren't telling the truth - so object to saying that you called anyone a liar all you like, that is exactly what you imply.
I can't agree with your logic here Keith. The statement that there is a fuller picture does not imply that the original complainant is not telling the truth. There might have been circumstances, of which the original person was unaware, that caused the problem.
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I can't agree with your logic either Tom. If I tell the police when asked that I saw someone last night but didn't tell them the "fuller picture" that when I saw him I killed him, then I believe I would have lied to the police. As is normal with these people, there is a "fuller picture" that would prove their point, but of course no details of any "fuller picture" are forthcoming. Furthermore the alternative you put forward is that the reason wasn't given to the customer but was to another entirely unrelated couple? Is that the way things are communicated these days?
I'm really not interested in fact. The service I received at Bostans was poor and moreover dishonest. Whether there is more to the story of someone else's experience won't have any bearing on my experience.
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Having difficulty where this is going, from what i can understand it is about very poor service, yet it appears to me that Anita, Brian, and Aslan seem to be turning it into Anita, Brian,Aslan, versus Scunner. you say quote: in bostans that night and there is a fuller picture to be seen what happened. Then please tell us CBF members what that picture is, then perhaps we can understand what your point is.:(
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my sister and I went into Bostons one night hoping for a meal, the place wasnt full and there were at least 5 waiters on, we sat there for 15 minutes without anyone coming over to us, I put my hand up to get attention, one of the waiters nodded but didnt come over, after another 10 minutes we stood up and left, then 2 waiters quickly came after us, I just said forget it, and they put their hands up in the air wondering what they had done wronge, its laughable really.Bee
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Well done Bee, good to see someone get back to the topic, perhaps they,ll give scunner a break now.:D:D
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I doubt it.
The stupid thing is, this is a topic that started with someone not happy with the service and had died and been buried beneath dozens of new topics. As I said before, I am aware than some people are fans of the place and these people are too, having known the owner for years (although they didn't mention that on here, just to anyone who would listen in the restaurant).
A tip for fans of restaurants. Please start a new topic telling us all about it. Reactivating a dead topic that is not sharing your thoughts only brings bad publicity right back to the top of the pile as is the case here.
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Had an experience at restaurant on beach front,ordered obligatory Efes and Gin tonic ,very prompt.Food was Ottoman and for my wife spagetti bolongnase,after she had finished her's and I was still waiting finally gave up and walked away !!My wife paid for all and left to meet me at Bustop.
The following day we walked past and tried to avoid eye contact with owner, he caught me and in all seriousness he told me, come in lunchtime he will do nice Ottoman !! Classic.
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I would have loved eye contact with the owner...believe me....
The only problem is a lot of the time it falls on deaf ears....shame but there you go....there are lots of other very good places and so its not the end of the world.
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Originally posted by Scunner
If I tell the police when asked that I saw someone last night but didn't tell them the "fuller picture" that when I saw him I killed him, then I believe I would have lied to the police.
Furthermore the alternative you put forward is that the reason wasn't given to the customer but was to another entirely unrelated couple? Is that the way things are communicated these days?
I'm really not interested in fact. The service I received at Bostans was poor and moreover dishonest. Whether there is more to the story of someone else's experience won't have any bearing on my experience.
In courts in the Uk people are sworn in to tell " the Truth the Whole Truth and Nothing but the Truth" . People do not lie if they tell the truth. This is why the law requires them to tell the whole truth. However, the point I raised was about your logic not about what you consider constitutes lying, although what you consider to by lying would affect your opininion on this. However, I would be interested to hear of those on the forum who whould agree with your logic.
Also, I did not put forward an 'alternative' as you put it. I gave a simple example (and did not spell it out in words of one syllable) of how the second person might have been aware of something that the first person was not and that this did not constitute calling the first person a liar. This was nothing to do with the actual situation but was hypothetical to show the fallacy in your logic.
As for your comment "I'm really not interested in fact", what can I say ?
I am afraid that this has gone off topic but I thought that you were mistaken in accusing AB&A of calling anyone a lier.
Oh dear, there go all my brownie points :(
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It was nice and tender tho !
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A moderator that i`snt really interested. Lol
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My point is that if there is more to the story than the original poster told us, tell us what it is. We can all use the "I've heard things about XXX but I can't say" rot, it is the root of a lot of bad over there. You can say whatever you like on CBF as long as you back it up with facts. Put up or shut up. Simple.
For maximumtom let me clarify one thing. I did not say he called someone a liar. I said (quote) "because you liked it doesn't make others liars". The meaning of that quote is that this guy may be right in his view and at the same time others can have an opposing view which is also right in their experience. If I say "Maximumtom irons his socks but that doesn't make those who don't idiots" did I accuse maximumtom of saying that people who don't iron their socks are idiots? Nonsense I'm afraid Tom.
Can we get back to taking the p1ss out of Lance now
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Originally posted by Anita Brian and Aslan
A moderator that i`snt really interested. Lol
A new member with 5 posts, all about their mate's restaurant Bostans - all serving to bring in even more complaints about the place. Well done, he'll be proud of you!!!
And I am not a moderator or interested. Take your moaning elsewhere now.
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Just for information, here is a brief resume of views that oppose yours about how wonderful Bostans is:
suzi Q: "then we waited for second course after 50 mins ask the waiter was it likely to be much longer he just laughed and walked off. After getting the attention of another waiter we asked again he said 5 mins, after another 15mins and getting rather past eating the meal it arrived! As soon as it came up we requested the bill then paid for it and left without eating".
freddoc: "we did wait an hour for a pancake. The waitors kept saying 5 minutes, but eventually said sorry no pancake. ~ I got the feeling that the chef had left for the night, they should have just said so, would have been fine with that.".
bee: "the place wasnt full and there were at least 5 waiters on, we sat there for 15 minutes without anyone coming over to us, I put my hand up to get attention, one of the waiters nodded but didnt come over, after another 10 minutes we stood up and left, then 2 waiters quickly came after us, I just said forget it, and they put their hands up in the air wondering what they had done wronge, its laughable really".
sting: "Food was Ottoman and for my wife spagetti bolongnase,after she had finished her's and I was still waiting finally gave up and walked away !!My wife paid for all and left to meet me at Bustop".
But you like it - I do get it! You are allowed to like it and you are even allowed to freely (at my expense) tell everyone you liked it. I only took the comments from this topic, I could add many more negative ones if I could be bothered to invest the time, which I can't. Once again, my point is that you have dug up an old topic that is negative about Bostans to tell everyone that you think it is great. I think if I owned Bostans I'd have preferred you to leave this topic buried and start a new one. But it's entirely up to you!
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Quite true June, I just thnk that someone saying it`s not very good(did`nt type wot I was thinkng). does`nt mean that the place is bad, and maybe you got it on a bad day, it is easy to say a place is c**p , but on the whole you have got be able to say . OK, i`ve eaten there before and it was OK. If you have a good experience precious little is said on here, but to say you have had a bad experience has much more impact, that was my point Are there people who have eaten at various places and had a good night, only to get on here and say "it was s**t on saturdsy". That is what people see and take in. The thing is, people go where they like to go, and as i said before, people have a soft spot for places, it`s not wrong, it`s human nature. By the same token , people have an aversion to places they might have had a bad experience, but that does`nt make the place a bad place, I have the good grace to say ok, we can put it down to a bad night and move on, but if you never go back because of it, then you never know if there is a good night. Live dangerous, risk a bit of upset in your life. (without trying to sound flippant, if it does, I apologise before I get hung on a yardarm by the chairman)
If I have offended anyone with what I have said, then I apologise without reservation, but this forum has an influence, and the hoteliers in Calis cannot respond without seeming sycophantic. Criticism should be constructive without beind Destructive
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You don't give people the credit they deserve for having their own minds. You think this forum is destructively influential whereas it is constructively influential. Jeremy Clarkson's choice of worst car of the year consistently went on to become a huge seller, year after year. Nobody has a bigger chance to try to influence sales than he does in that industry. I have never read a bad review on CBF and avoided a place because of it.
What I object to is being told that people should tell the staff or owners, not a public forum. It is the right of everyone to tell whoever they choose to. If the review is less than positive, the owners and staff should read it too and learn from it. They open their doors and do all they can to get people in - and who is paying any attention to the ones walking out? Or the ones that pay and never come back? It isn't getting business that's hard, it's keeping it that's the difficult skill.
It doesn't matter how many fans of a place I think let me down turn up here out of the blue and tell me how great it is, and how wrong I am, it will only serve to make me stick to my opinion all the more.
Owners are welcome to respond and often do. It is generally well received here too. But far better is to learn from what they read and make it constructive for them too.
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I've said it before and i'l say it again, really there is no place for restaurants that have "bad days" whats that all about!
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What I object to is being told that people should tell the staff or owners;.
should`nt that be the first port of call
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after 25 minutes sat waiting to be served, dont think theres much to say do you!!
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bee, i know what u say, but we not talking ramsay and the likes
we talking of little fish in big ponds, bear with them, tell them what u feel is wrong and let them improve. Come on Bee, you from Droylsden FFS. No disrespect to anyone from Droylsden i add, just in case someone is upset by my severe generalisation
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hahaha,listen! you have done Bostons absolutly no favors what so ever, didnt think there were too many michelin star restaurants in Bolton get a grip
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Would agree with Bee, sitting there for 25 mins being watched by the waiters who obviously can't be bothered to do their job wouldn't impress me either. I wouldn't give them a first chance let alone a second. And if the owners aren't aware of the poor service (which, after all this time being in business, they should be) they deserve the criticism they get.
One thing I have noticed in the years here is that restaurants don't take on board any criticism/complaints/suggestions. Most of their opinions are that the customer isn't right. After all, if you don't go back there's always someone else. Very shortsighted. Word of mouth can do a lot of good and/or damage.
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You were right Keith,they wont leave it will they?, having a go at Bee now. might just pop down Bostans today, ask Carol to bar them, they,re doing Bostans more harm than good. ;)
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Well we were at Bostons last night,we were late going out and it was more for a walk than than anything else.On the whole of the prom the one restaurant that was by far the busiest was Bostons.It was a fabulous atmosphere and no one I saw was kept waiting.Other premises were closing and many had been closed for some time as all the lights were out by the time we left but Bostons were still going strong.
If anyone knows of a restaurant with a better atmosphere and with happier and more industrious waiters,I would like to know.I think we have been to most, if not all, over a long period of time and this is by far the nicest place to spend an evening in.
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Once again it sounds an absolutely fabulous place to be, when one of their big fans is in!
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Sounds like a totally different place than the one we tried. Long wait to be served, stack of chipped plates for the serve yourself meze, then 1 hour wait for dinner which consisted of a tough and fatty chicken dish and a very over cooked and burnt at the ends pizza. We gave up trying to attract the attention of a waiter for another drink and when we did catch someone's eye, got the bill. Left with no goodbye or a handshake. This was in May. Did not go back in August, decided never to go back again. We only tried the place because there are a certain few CBF members who seem to love it and always give it good reviews.
I wonder, is the secret that you have to live in Calis and be a regular to love this place?
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Yes John The Four Seasons in Ovacik!! Some of the bar owners in Calis would do well to go and see how hard they work and the consistancy of their food. They also give entertainment for free.
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oh and by the way" I love Droylsden":Dand the only good thing to come from Bolton is Peter Kay:D:D:D
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such a shame really,heard somewhere that their tea parties were really good:D anyway enough on the subject, its getting rather boring :o
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Originally posted by bee
oh and by the way" I love Droylsden":Dand the only good thing to come from Bolton is Peter Kay:D:D:D
Peter Kay! Bee, he does'nt own Bostans does he?.:D:D
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Yes Ann and maybe you should go to Bostons and see how hard carol and Recep work to give good food and a good service.Anyone who sits in a restaurant for twenty five minutes and does not get service and makes no effort to get noticed seems to me they they should go and get in a fish and chip shop queue,then they can follow like sheep without any initiative needed.It was still the best and most animated location on the front last evening by far!
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When people are seated at a restaurant table and aren't served for 25 minutes it is their own fault and not the staff. Do you seriously believe that John?
My God...
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Yes 'My God' John that really is mad or bad!...life is all about customers and service...if they cant see you sitting there for 25 minutes then something is very very wrong.....personally i would not give it that long and as for trying to get noticed 'No Way' I would walk and go somewhere that the custom is appreciated.......
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I can tell you of one local restaurant owner who would go mad if a customer sat with an empty glass for more than a minute! He was right though, if you keep the drinks coming it could be 1 more over the evening for every person in the place. Over a season that would have been quite a total.
A group of 4 could have 2 drinks each in the 25 minutes they were stupid enough not to let the staff know they were sitting in the restaurant because they wanted to be served - that's 8 drinks x say 10 tables x six months = 14,560 drinks.
But it's the customers who are at fault!!!
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What a topic!!!Where did Bolton and Peter Kay come in though??????????
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What a great publicist Captainjon is for this place.. Saatchi & Saatchi eat your hearts out!!
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I expected to come into this forum as a point of discussion, to talk , debate, chew a bit of fat , over things that are thought, opinionated over, maybe put in there just to instigate some modicum of level headed debate, this is a FORUM isnt it. To my personal dismay, and scunner, it`s personal, don`t try and blame what I say on some instigated pro Bostans agenda, I find that on this site you seem to have a happy band of people who are happy to conform to the dictorate, and a few who can see through the self importance of your views and occasionally say so. Sad really, you offer a forum ,but people rush to add criticism, not just of places , but of the people. Discussion is not about slagging places off , but of saying you was`nt happy, giving whoever you were not happy with the right to reply and not trying to influence the views of the people who read this. But the fact remains that hoteliers are less prone to reply to you on here for fear that they might make matters worse by replying, and the attitude on here makes me agree . So you remain with a forum that you think gives you strengh of opinion. But you nudge your opinions down particular avenues and await replies from fellow members knowing how they think , knowing that most members will already know your opinion. SORRY, ALREADY HAVE THEIR OWN OPINION. But what do I know, I know I thought it was only the Americans that didnt do irony, sarcasm or self deprecation. but here we find it alive and kicking, or not.
Bee, I`m like you , bored with it, but sometimes come on here and say something is good, thats my point, we all do it, we complain when its sh*te and don`t say enough when it`s good, wherever that may be. Scunner, i would explain why I been on here for nearly two year but could`nt access my old account ,but trust me, I can`t be a**ed so set a new one up, but you might take offence. So we leave that for now.
Bee, it wasnt a swipe at Droylsden. FFS, how can I swipe at Droylsden when i live in Bolton FFS. Lets be serious. But I must say, Boltons best export is NOT Peter Kay . lol
I await a reply , `cos God knows I gonna get one. Tee Hee
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captainjon, personally, and , this is my personal opinion, if you sit in a place for 25 minutes and dont get served, you a looking for how long you can sit in a place before getting served. why not say excuse me , can i order . . . . . But to just sit there is , to me, and this is only my little opinion, waiting for something to complain about, rather than wanting something to eat
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Captionjon - if I may relay Mrs H's opinion on your post..
"If I waited for twenty-five minutes for staff to take any notice of me, I'd begin to think the restuarant was self-service"
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LOL, at least we got some debate going . LOLOL
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Must say Highlander, a great place in the world that you living
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excuse me can I order, can I order! are you for real. after 10 minutes i did gesture that we wanted a drink! some food maybe, why else would we be there, lets get back to basics, calis as a resort that has many many privatly owned properties, with friends relatives and also paying guests returning year after year, with an option of eating at home, so you would think that these restaurants would try much harder, but im afraid in reality most of them dont, for me definatly off the list is
1 Bostons
2 china breeze
3 anna restaurant, to name three, I would rather have a restaurant that may not create gastronomic delicacies, but try really hard, than the ones that quite frankly couldnt give a toss, as for you, the new members and I'm sure you know who you are!! try another topic or if this forum is so bad, stay off it :o as Ive said before "YOU pay your money YOU make your choice!
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Surely waiters ARE there to serve you? Bit pointless otherwise.
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John. We have been in Bostans lots of times. I know how hard they work but the staff and the food have to be consistant. Saturdays is always a busy night there because they do a cheap barbeque. What about the other nights? I don't have a problem with their staff because they know us and we always get treated well. We have walked on the sea front many times at night and sometimes one bar is always busier than another but for various reasons. Doesn't mean that Bostans is always the busiest.
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Bee I agree with you. On the whole I think that the quality of food is overpriced and overated on the Sea front in Calis as do many of our friends which is why most of our friends choose not to eat down their. The exception is Serkul 1 where we go for a chinese sometimes in the Winter. It is right what you say that they are short sighted in thinking that if some tourists don't like it then there will always be others. Wait till this Winter and let them see how many locals are going back.
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The way I see it on this topic, there are two opinions on what to do when you're waiting to be served.
1. It is the waiter's job to serve you therefore you wait for them to come to you and ask what you'd like to drink, food etc. If this doesn't happen within a decent amount of time it is bad service and you then vote with your feet. Any variations of waiting a lengthy amount of time for other courses and such can be applied.
2. Again, it is the waiter's job to serve you but if you're waiting attempt to get their attention until they come to you. After all you there for food and if that's important you'll get the waiter's attention and the food.
Scunner, you mentioned earlier how bringing up an old topic brings back up bad publicity. Sometimes people are told that one topic is enough on one restaurant and their thread is then locked. Maybe there's slight mixed messages regarding that. Also, people will still look at the topic brought back up, see a positive view of it then reconsider. It also allows for a healthy debate. If there was a thread that really raved about a place saying how amazing it was, more than likely someone would post on it with a negative experience and then a healthy debate would then crop up. It's happened before and it was happening on this thread.
Back onto the topic, I've only eaten at Bostan's once last year when Tom Moss was performing there. From what I remember the service was fairly average, but as there was entertainment I don't think I noticed the timing of food. It's possibly gone downhill since then.
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One topic about one subject is what we say Tiddlo, in as much as we locked 9 out of the 10 topics that appeared within hours on new visa rumours recently as one topic for all the debate makes sense. Likewise, there is no need to post the same message in 5 different sections, that is what we are talking about. There is no need to post a review about a restaurant in Hisaronu in the restaurant review section, copied to the Hisaronu section and Ovacik section because it is near Hisaronu.
There is a section for restaurant reviews (this one) and there are reviews from different people, both good and bad (but contrary to one opinion way more positive than negative) and people rightly post their review as a new topic. Who would seriously want to post a good review tacked onto an old negative one??!! Oh I see.
I am well aware that some new members are not experienced in forum use but we are here to help if anyone needs advice on where to post.
I trust that clarifies that for you Tiddler.
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It does Scunner. But I needed to get my point across anyway.
Is the title of the topic starting to reflect the length of it now? :D
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It was by page 2 ;)
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Look I started the topic so perhaps I should end it.
We go out to calis 5 times year and have been going there for at least 5 years.The service you get in a restaurant determines whether you go back or not and just a simple apology would have gone a long way.
But thank you for letting me air my views which I understand is what this review section is for.
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quote:
Originally posted by suzi Q
Look I started the topic so perhaps I should end it.
Thanks Suzi, let me help you with that.
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quote:
Originally posted by suzi Q
Look I started the topic so perhaps I should end it.
Thanks Suzi, let me help you with that.