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Title: Yawn - here we go again - rumours !!!
Post by: Pi55y on September 23, 2010, 23:14:17 PM
Pete and I have just got back from UK after a break seeing elderly parents and surprise, surprise we have apparently absconded with/have misapropriated money raised for the children from the 2010 Carnival!

This is now becoming very, very boring as we have now heard this same rumour for the last 3 years and it is getting repetitive. We really wish that the people who are spreading these vile, ugly and malicious rumours would have the courage to stand up and face us, not only with their concerns but also with their evidence, so that we can have at least have the chance to respond to these slanderous accusations.  These rumour-mongers, whom we understand from our sources are sad ex-pats with nothing better to do than hide behind a bottle of Efes, are clearly some of the worst, cowardly representatives of the ex-pat population of the Calis/Fethiye area and should know better. In fact we feel ashamed to be associated with them.

As everyone knows, Calis Carnival is one of the few charities that is fully recognised by Fethiye Belediye  and one who issues a full set of professional public accounts which are fully audited by a professional accountant, as well as audited by the Fethiye Beleidye accountant.  Every lira, down to the last 1 kurus is accounted for and is itemised in the accounts attached to the annual report.  These reports can be viewed by everyone, in both Turkish and English, on our website www.caliscarnival.com. Hard copies are also available for those who do not have internet access.

As a result of these false accusations some of our great hardworking committee members (who are also being slandered by association)are feeling both saddened and disillusioned as these accusations reflect not only on them personally but also negate all of the hard work that they have put in over the last 12 months.

Despite these sickening  knockbacks the committee will continue to distribute the funds from the 2010 carnival as well as try to raise further funds for the children of the Calis/Fethiye area. Tomorrow Pete will be visiting one of the local poorer schools in the area to ensure that the equipment that they need has been ordered and will arrive as soon as possible. We also have applications for assistance from several other needy sources which will be considered at our next committee meeting.

To those who slander us or any of our brilliant and loyal committee, please come and meet with us and stop hiding, like the cowards that you are.


Pete and Chrissie (feeling saddened and very disillusioned on behalf of our committee members)
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Post by: Julesp on September 23, 2010, 23:34:13 PM
Hope you are OK
I agree.
Its very disheartening when all you are trying to do is raise funds and awareness by legal means here and then people try to shoot you down, I run the Fig shop here and its doing well. Thanks to all our donators and customers,

Calis carnival is a big event here and has my support entirely, and you know FIG is right beside you with the same goals

Good luck for this next year
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Post by: Scunner on September 23, 2010, 23:39:45 PM
Welcome to the club! I was banned from Turkey for life and one gossip even saw the paperwork from Ankara!

I too have been there and lived it and I know the thing to do is to ignore it but it's SO HARD when it's you and your reputation being pulled at by faceless strangers that you can't even confront face to face. If I can offer you one angle, that would be that you are damned if you do and damned if you don't so please continue to "do".

For one I have known you both for 6 years and I trust you one million percent with every last penny and every last kurus. I have a feeling there's a few more than just me  :)

Shame about the swear filter on CBF but the smiles the carnival brings both in the events themselves and the giving that follows make the opinions of faceless cowards (and there are many) who sit over their Efes day in day out irrelevant. So **** them.
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Post by: karaokemark on September 24, 2010, 05:34:59 AM
I joined the Carnival Committee because I wanted to put something back into the community and to keep busy. It has been hard work but above all very enjoyable, when I hear comments, (not to my face of course) that we siphon off money, or Pete has had a new car, or we have nights out on the proceeds, I get very hurt and angry. After every event regardless of what time of day or night a number of committee members count every last lira. This is then taken to the Fetav office, for them to bank. Any collecting buckets we have are sealed and locked at the Belediye office and unlocked and counted by them and us together. In the few weeks leading up to carnival I estimate I put an extra 100tl of fuel in my car and about the same in credit on my phone, I do not begrudge one penny of this and I know all the other committee members did the same.
We now have 27,500tl to use to help local children in need (of which there are many) thanks mainly to the never ending work Pete and Chrissie do and the rest of the committee, and all the fantastic support we receive from most people in the area.
To those that choose to view everything through the bottom of a bottle of Efes please come forward with your evidence, face to face so we can "discuss" any issues you have.
A very angry Mark

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Post by: Gorgeous_bird on September 24, 2010, 06:17:15 AM
sick ignorant people. May their livers fail sooner rather than later.
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Post by: janmack on September 24, 2010, 06:22:39 AM
I am really sorry to hear this although not particularly surprised.  Personally I have not heard these rumours but I know what some folk are like.  
They won't come forward and say it to your face as they are sad and pathetic.
Please believe me when I say that the majority of people think you all do a marvellous job and trust you 100% with money collected and decisions on how the money is best spent.
The carnival is always a fun day out and more and more people want to come to Calis when it is being held.  I think that says a lot!
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Post by: Old Daffodil on September 24, 2010, 07:44:35 AM
Good luck to you for 2011. You are doing a great job!:DChin up!

Earlier this year there was that terrible tragedy when a lad whose mother had ended up in prison and could not look after her children because she was in debt for his education and was going to lose their house. He committed suicide. I don't know how the bursaries are given but it must take  a lot of strain away from families trying to educate their children to become an asset to Turkey and support themselves in a good job.
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Post by: Firo on September 24, 2010, 07:55:45 AM
Same old, same old....petty jealousy by people that have nothing better to do and they are too cowardly to say anything face to face.
We have suffered the same here in Uzumlu with the same type of rumour's, from time to time, that we live our life on the money we collect for the kids, yet like you we keep accounts for FIG.
You do a brilliant job so please rise above it and see these low life's for what they are.
You all do a fantastic job.
Fi & Eric
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Post by: legless on September 24, 2010, 07:57:02 AM
Jealousy, and small minded people with nothing better to do.

I for one don't believe the rumour mongers,and as Keith has said he has been there and been the talk of these sad people.

Turn the cheek and please carry on,to you and all the commitee YOU DO A BRILLIANT JOB AND KEEP PUTTING THE SMILES ON THE LESS FORTUNATE THAN US.

Ron
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Post by: busybee on September 24, 2010, 08:05:58 AM
As a committed member of the Carnival team, I think the folk who spread these vicious rumours are the type of people who would do this sort of stuff themselves........

Whatever nasty jealous people say it wont deter Mick and I doing what we do. We fully support Pete, Chrissie and all the team because ITS ALL ABOUT THE BLOODY KIDS and we never loose sight of this.

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Post by: mercury on September 24, 2010, 08:12:43 AM
Thank you Pete and Chrissie.I am really pleased that you chose to put this out on the forum. Not that you or us should need to defend ourselves. We all have an idea where and who these rumours are coming from and they have no idea the upset they cause us and infact one or 2 were going to resign because of it! I would also like to comment on some of the bars in Calis who give us considerable grief and are sometimes downright nasty. I dont want to go into it all on here but this Carnival is NOT ABOUT THE BARS MAKING MONEY FOR THEMSELVES!!!! sorry to shout but I nearly resigned because of the abuse I have from particular bars just trying to help what are in fact "their" kids. However we refuse to let these saddos ruin what we are all intending to do out of the goodness of our hearts and for FREE. Just to add that Pete and Chrissie are not opening a bar either on Carnival proceeds and calling in the Carnival Bar LOL LOL xx
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Post by: sunlover on September 24, 2010, 08:13:00 AM
UNBELIEVABLE :o

These sort of people i know are very hard to ignore, but you must..

I have met Chrissy & Pete on a couple of occasions when we have taken items out for them for there charities,they are complete genuine people,  and there is NO WAY they would rip off the Carnival proceeds.

These mindless and cowardless people will never come face to face with you, they would not have the guts to do it, and it saddens me when people say these things:(, when you see what great work you all do for the local kids & families..

Come on all commitee members you are better than that and good luck for 2011....
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Post by: Scunner on September 24, 2010, 08:45:46 AM
Well I think if they were going to run off with the proceeds they'd have done it by now! It's like the pondlifes spreading the rumour that I was banned from Turkey for life - it doesn't work so well when we come back!!! I do wonder though, when I am seen all around Calis, or Pete & Chrissie arrive home from the UK, do people actually even bother tho think "well that story that ***** told me about them turned out to be total crap". Sadly I don't believe they even want to face possibility that the juicy story they helped spread is, given the facts in front of their own eyes, patently bull****.

Unbelievably next year Pete & Chrissie will give up 6 months of their lives to the carnival and when it is over head off for a well earned break - and this story will start again, 2011 version. The same people will tell the same people the same story and the same people will forget that they were told it last year and for 3 years before that and each time they failed to stay away with all the cash, probably in buckets in the boot if I know Calis gossip. They will be shocked and stunned and tell more people who will have forgotten they heard the same story last year...and you see the way it works...

The real irony is that the people behind this have generally, almost always, done nothing to help anyone but themselves to yet another Efes on yet another Groundhog Day.
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Post by: cenk on September 24, 2010, 08:54:54 AM
I heard lots rubbish rumours , but this is one of the most disgusting one. Unfortunatelly some people do nothing, but sit in bars, and throw s**t to people who are trying to make good things.
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Post by: scorcher on September 24, 2010, 08:55:22 AM
Now why would it not suprise me to learn that this coming Carnival will be a record breaker as a gesture of solidarity for all your efforts and a slap in the face for your scurrilous detractors.Keep the faith, rise above the nonsense but above all else - keep smiling. RESPECT !!
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Post by: scouser2 on September 24, 2010, 09:14:11 AM
People who spread these rumours should do so to peoples faces. Unfortunately, they spread rumours and then deny all knowledge or responsibility for their actions.
This is one of the reasons that the wife and I do not frequent 'the ex-pats bars'.We did when we first came out here, but were extremely disappointed to find that as soon as some people left the bar, others would start talking about them. Even worse, was that if they didn't have any information some juicy details would be made up! We now only keep the company of (and even talk to) a few people that we feel comfortable with.
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Post by: nichola on September 24, 2010, 09:34:53 AM
People often judge others by their own standards and therefore it should come as no surprise that there are scum that would maliciously spread rumours about others based on how they would behave if ever they had a thought in their head that wasn't about themselves and were in Chrissie and Pete's enviable position: respected, liked, admired, dedicated, caring, selfless:

As this will never, ever be the case we can relax and be happy that we have such a great team of people that work tirelessly on behalf of others less fortunate.

Thank you to all the committee members - you make Calis a better place for all of us.
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Post by: kayakebab on September 24, 2010, 10:16:21 AM
Ive read this thread about 3 times today and just couldnt express how it made me feel. Nichola has such a way with words and just put it exactly how I would have liked.
Keep doing what youre doing, and ignore the ignorant idiots
youre all fab
x
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Post by: cenk on September 24, 2010, 10:30:09 AM
I think a new section in cbf, will be useful. NAME AND SHAME THE RUMOUR CREATORS ANS SPREADERS  :)
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Post by: hubblebubbles on September 24, 2010, 10:39:11 AM
I know for fact of two people who instigated these rumours as they voiced their "concerns" to me about the money raised being used for personal purpposes by the committee. They were unaware that I am on the committee .....golly they were surprised when I let them have it with both barrels so to the two of you dont be surprised when I totally blank you next time we meet.I will also add that the same two NEVER donate in any way.They wont even buy a tombola ticket from my own charity of "Embrace" YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND SHOULD HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME.
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Post by: c1 on September 24, 2010, 11:03:04 AM
name and shame the low lifes,as I bet it's some of the expats who have got nothing better to do with their time than knock people who are trying to live a life in the sun and putting back or helping other's in some way.I only hope those who start and those who carry these rumour / lies feel ashamed.
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Post by: Scunner on September 24, 2010, 11:15:56 AM
quote:
Originally posted by c1

I only hope those who start and those who carry these rumour / lies feel ashamed.



They don't.

Someone (a pony tailed sponger, notorious in Calis as a gossip and whole life non-achiever) told a friend of mine that I had been banned deported, banned from Turkey for life and he had personally seen the official papers from Ankara. None of that is in any way true as I have proved by returning to Turkey many times since we decided to move back to the UK.

When I confronted Glenn Mayes and asked him why he was spreading these lies about me he totally denied every last bit of it. BUT HE TOLD MY FRIEND IT ALL FACE TO FACE!!!

What to do...just carry on I suppose. People will tell you to ignore it, that people know you and won't believe it and no, sadly it doesn't always help.
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Post by: hubblebubbles on September 24, 2010, 11:21:09 AM
Sorry got carrried away ranting as I am so angry that this has all started again this year. The people I was talking about started the rumour last year but no doubt involved in this years as they dont have too many active brain cells. I know they have never supported any of the events put on in aid of the carnival and were very quick to knock last years efforts. Until you are involved with helping to organise this worthwhile cause people have absolutely no idea of what it entails.The committee are a wonderful group who work really hard to help the less fortunate. Long may it continue and the very sad rumour mongers find it in their hearts to stop doubting the sincerity of others.
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Post by: Harmless on September 24, 2010, 12:08:13 PM
Similar happened to a friend of mine she was so distressed she gave fig up.  
Some people are very quick to pass on spiteful gossip, but, luckily most of us have the sense to not listen or pass it on.  I think everyone to do with the carnival is amazing and do a brilliant job.
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Post by: hazel dorrington on September 24, 2010, 12:22:12 PM
Do they have slander laws in Turkey. Would the threat of court action silence these awful people.
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Post by: tribalelder on September 24, 2010, 12:27:16 PM
If I heard first hand such a rumour and I don't care who said it. I would post their name immediately on this Forum and yes it would be in capital letters  Very large ones! Just remember a human sh*t is usually very small in the overall scale of things.
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Post by: Jacqui Harvey on September 24, 2010, 13:19:14 PM
Chrissie, The members of the Forum know what a good job the Calis Carnival Committee do.
Forget about the trash who have nothing better to do than gossip. They lead very sad lives.
They should be pitied, they will never have the admiration and support that you and the other volunteers have earned.
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Post by: Scunner on September 24, 2010, 13:27:54 PM
I don't waste time pitying people, they don't see they need pity, they are the ones who think they have the life people envy! Sad, empty lives talking about whoever just got up to go to the toilet. What is important is that people start to report who told them what, as Brian/Tribalelder says. If everyone does that, at least people like Pete & Chrissie will know who they are being attacked by.

Sadly I understand the enthusiasm and drive of one committee member has been lost already over this. We must open up and speak out about those who whisper in dark corners. Because we don't is the ONLY way they get away with their poison - and if one kid misses out on one swing or computer or tent or whatever it may be, it might just be because the person who could have delivered it quit the committee over these lies - and that is a major, major tragedy.
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Post by: littlereddevil on September 24, 2010, 14:05:07 PM
Oh what a sad thread. That is just shocking.
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Post by: Highlander on September 24, 2010, 15:25:31 PM
This is obviously all very sad and deeply upsetting for those involved.

But I would believe that it may be difficult for individuals to put their name to a name and shame campaign as they have to continue to live in Calis

So I thought that I would suggest the following:

1. That a username of Whistleblower be set up.

2. Those who wish to name and shame an individual (given substantive proof of their guilt of course) could then email that name to a general cbf email address (info@cbf.co.uk or whatever) and it could subsequently be published "by" whilstlerblower. This hopefully would allow anonymity and allow the cbf administration team to say that they were only publishing information received.

All of the above would have to have the approval of Keith and his team.

Then, I thought "what would be the point". Even if those who are alleged to have committed the slander read the forum, would being named and shamed make any difference to them. Would it make them come forward to defend themselves and refute the allegations.

The whole business is fraught with danger. How, for example, would the mod team verify the authenticity of what they were sent.

Apologies for this being more than a bit of a ramble:(
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Post by: mercury on September 24, 2010, 15:33:43 PM
I think best we just ignore them as best we can. We know who the main culprits are and that is enough for us. They have made their annimosity towards us plain before.  We just wanted to make people aware of these rumours should they hear them. We dont intend to stoop to their level but thank you Highlander. They just aren't worth it at the end of the day.
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Post by: Dizzy Jan on September 24, 2010, 15:40:03 PM
As a committee member, I would just like to thank all the members who comment above. What support, was feeling very low about the whole thing even thought of not bothering this year. But hey, you have given me new inspiration we have a wonderful team of workers lead by two lovely people who we all admire and respect and we will continue to collect money for the kids, with new heart after reading your support. The rumour mongers can go to hell, we know we are better than that, at least we are not full of poisonous thoughts and ideas. The only thing I can say to then is 'put up or shut up'.
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Post by: Highlander on September 24, 2010, 15:41:28 PM
Mercury

"They just aren't worth it at the end of the day".

Amen to that. Hope you and the rest of the fine people involved with the Committee can maintain the spirit and sentiments expressed in your post.

Take care.
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Post by: Old Daffodil on September 24, 2010, 17:39:24 PM
I wish you every success.

When will the page be available for requests for funding of projects for 2010 ?
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Post by: Scunner on September 24, 2010, 17:40:43 PM
Last year :D
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Post by: Beep on September 24, 2010, 17:53:14 PM
I am sure all committee members appreciate the expressions of support above.

It is a sad fact of life that in every society there are members who are intellectually challenged and Calis has proved no exception. I can say that because Calis Carnival is totally transparent accounting wise and to rumour otherwise is totally rediculous.

I am sure I speak for other committee members when I say that Pete and Chrissie have our total support with plans for 2011 whatever they may be and to Murcury (Anne) I am positive that the bar and restaurant owners will discover that the hole in the top of their pockets allows money out as well as in and we'll be pleased to put any donation to good use.

Authorities allowing, may our fun-raising efforts in 2011 be the best ever :-)
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Post by: barry44544 on September 24, 2010, 18:49:23 PM
Hear Hear Cenk..... Name and Shame the pond life..
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Post by: bewva on September 24, 2010, 19:00:03 PM
To tirelessly give up such a large part of your lives for the benefit of others is truly admirable. I have never had the fortune to be in Turkey while a carnival is on but the support it gets by way of donations and hard work from the volunteers is proof enough of the dedication of the committee. When I read the first post I just thought how can someone be so hatefull to start such malitious rumours. Fortunately 4 pages of support so far just goes to show how pople really feel. Keep up the extreamly worthwhile work you all do.
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Post by: busybee on September 24, 2010, 19:11:27 PM
I personally know one of the slanderous skip lickers.  If our paths ever cross I might just accidently trip up with a large Efes all over the person (would be a such a waste but well worth it).  Would I stoop so low YES:D
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Post by: Scunner on September 24, 2010, 19:14:21 PM
Skip lickers???

Never heard that one in my life but like it :D
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Post by: Scunner on September 24, 2010, 19:24:01 PM
WHAT MATTERS

(http://www.caliscarnival.com/images/stories/dscf9454.jpg)


(http://www.caliscarnival.com/images/stories/boys%20on%20football%20game.jpg)


(http://www.caliscarnival.com/images/stories/ibrahim%20gul%20creche%20031.jpg)


(http://www.caliscarnival.com/images/stories/yaniklar%20school%202.jpg)

(http://www.caliscarnival.com/images/stories/3%20students.jpg)


(http://www.caliscarnival.com/images/stories/turkish%20school.jpg)


(http://www.caliscarnival.com/images/stories/carnival_silkarschool181109.jpg)


(http://www.caliscarnival.com/images/stories/silkar%201.jpg)


(http://www.caliscarnival.com/images/stories/children%20enjoy%20new%20slide.jpg)


(http://www.caliscarnival.com/images/stories/catalarik%20nursery%20school.jpg)


...nothing else



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Post by: nichola on September 24, 2010, 19:33:21 PM
Perfect - thanks Keith for posting these photos - the recipients of everyones hard work and generosity  :)
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Post by: hubblebubbles on September 24, 2010, 20:12:51 PM
How amazing that nasty comments from certain people can generate such  wonderful "feel good" factor reactions from so many others . I am sure I speak for all of the other members of the Carnival Committee when I say how uplifting it is to get such lovely comments and it truly does make it all worthwhile. A great bunch of people that it is a priviledge to work with .Carry on the good work Chrissie and Pete and welcome back from your well deserved holiday.As Jan rightly said to the scandalmongers Put up or shut up. Well said Jan .
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Post by: Highlander on September 24, 2010, 20:16:21 PM
What matters........nothing else.


EXCELLENT - GAME OVER:D
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Post by: GordonA on September 24, 2010, 20:23:27 PM
I am personally aquainted with 2 of these people who have continually 'slagged off' Peter & his good Lady at every opportunity. They have never, ever donated a single kurus to the Charity, and are very vehement in their character asassinations of 2 of the nicest, all- caring people that Lorraine & I have ever met. Mind you, this particular couple really don't have a decent word to say about ANYONE, their own circle of 'friends' is shrinking ever smaller!
 
When Loz & I returned to Turkey in May of last year for a holiday, we were greeted with exclamations of great surprise as to how 'very well' I was looking, everywhere we went. It transpired that when we had left Turkey in April 2009, the rumour mongers put the word around that we had done so as I was 'terminally ill', & had 'gone back home', (to Scotland), to die!!!! BULLDUST, Never felt so good for a long time!!

I have a sneaking suspicion that I know who started this rumour,& the malicious maligning of Pete & Chrissie, but I laughed, & shrugged it off,:D Best if you two can do the same, P&C.
Please continue with the great work, both of you, hope to see you around New Year.
Gordy & Loz.
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Post by: Jenny1 on September 24, 2010, 21:19:57 PM
Well said Keith, the pics are fab, such a shame there are so many nasty people in the world. Thank god they are the minority.
Keep up everything you're doing Pete & Chrissy, you have made a lot of people very happy! Xx
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Post by: simpsons on September 24, 2010, 21:20:58 PM
Chrissie and Pete, I have never met you, but judging from the comments on this topic, you appear to be solid, upright citizens who believe in helping others less fortunate than ourselves, for which I commend you. Dont upset yourselves about these ugly, malicious rumours spread by people who are too lazy and self-centred to help others, then get jealous because people like you are well liked. People like that do not deserve to live amongst decent people as they are the lowest of the low. I hope they read these comments, and someone gives them what they deserve. If not, give me a call and I will do it. No Charge.
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Post by: Pi55y on September 24, 2010, 23:29:42 PM
Pete and I are both overwhelmed at the kind comments and support  from the members  of the forum and for the private e-mails that we have also received.

For the record, these ugly rumours have been flying around Calis since we first started Carnival 3 years ago.  For those who are unaware, we allegedly  purchased our new car on the proceeds  of the first car boot sales  in 2008.  It also appears  that we started a business and funded holidays on the proceeds, and that is apart from all the freebies that we get from the bar owners and other businesses - like as if!

Normally we usually let it all go over our heads and laugh it off - after all it is Calis and if you are daft enough to stick your heads up over the parapet  you are sure to get them shot down - sadly it is all par of the course here if you try to do something different or have some small measure of success, as Keith is too well aware.

However when we got back from UK this week  and heard that certain people had been slagging off not only us,  but our hard working, loyal committee for "creaming off" the proceeds, we decided that the time had come to stop ignoring it and to make a public announcement, particularly as one of our newer and most enthusiastic members has now resigned as they are so deeply upset and disillusioned by the malicious gossip.

We would by lying to say that the allegations do not hurt us - of course they do, but we have tried to develop thick skins and just get on with it.  Unfortunately some of our committee have never experienced such malicious gossip and it has really shocked them.  We really hope that your kind comments have now restored their  faith in people and made them realize that the vast majority of people genuinely respect what we are all trying to achieve and that it is only a very few sad and twisted  people who are trying to undermine everything.

A few of you seem to have an idea who the perpetrators are. I hope that whoever they are, they get to hear about this announcement and the upset they have caused. Perhaps they can then either choose to face us with their concerns and evidence or shut up and crawl back under the stone that they came from.

Again thanks to everyone for your lovely comments and full support.  You are all very kind. We hope that we can meet some of you at the Car Boot on Sunday to give our thanks in person.

Best regards
Chrissie and Pete

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Post by: Cavfan on September 25, 2010, 08:40:33 AM
Pete and Chrissie you do a fab job and so do your committee!

I remember sitting over a drink on your lovely (ex) terrace and you both telling us about an idea you had had for the carnival- and now its a reality . Not many people can claim to have achieved what you have through hard work and dedication.

I dont pretend to speak Latin, 'well just enough to buy a paper'- Victoria Wood- but

nil carborundum illegitimi

Think that will get through the swear filter!!!

[:X]
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Post by: bigvic on September 25, 2010, 08:43:05 AM
I've just spotted Pete and Chris "troodling" down the prom in a brand new Rolls Royce,towing a £5 million yacht with Hugh Hefner and the babes suppin champers.They told me they was off to pay for a five year residency permit,now come on,nobody can afford to pay that all in one go!!!must be summat innit...
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Post by: bigvic on September 25, 2010, 08:56:14 AM
I don't understand why these sh*tbags will not accuse commitee members face to face.Is it because the've seen the size of Mark?..Puts me off anyrode.
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Post by: janincalis on September 25, 2010, 09:27:45 AM
Pete and chrissie My very good friends. Who are as honest as the day is long. As you know rumours can destroy peoples lives. Your both still doing the carnival where most people would say what the hell i cant be bothered. Keep your heads held high guys and all on the committe. Good old calis and the sad and dispicable  expats who gossip, GO TO HELL  where you belong.
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Post by: tribalelder on September 25, 2010, 09:33:33 AM
As it seems these scumbags are known to so many people and I can understand the reluctance to name names why not take some pictures of the bars they just happen to be drinking in at the time: :)
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Post by: Sue T on September 25, 2010, 09:33:33 AM
Well I know how it feels as well and some of the adverse comments have come from not just nasties but folk who you would think should know better, I once heard the laughable suggestion I bought a car from FIG's proceeds, if that was so one wonders how FIG regularly manages to raise and pass on such large amounts of money for the benefits of many schools and children.

It is the reputations of FIG and Calis Carnival, that matter more than our personal ones, but you cannot entirely seperate the two, however where it really matters, with the respected and responsible members of the local Turkish community in Fethiye, both our organisations have a very high standing and a great deal of respect.

It is actually laughable that any one should give any credence to these wicked pieces of gossip and I feel we have to try our best to leave them in the rubbish bin they deserve to be in by scorning any one who can even think they are credible, after all no one ever comes up with any evidence to support them.  It is almost certainly just jealousy from those who resent others 'looking' important (simply 'cos they have got off their b.ms to help others) when they themselves do nothing but exercise their elbow and their jaws.

We all know that our actions are honest, are in line with local laws and details of income and spending are all checked and acredited.
Just take a deep breath do a reality check and ignore the b.....s!
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Post by: stoop on September 25, 2010, 10:09:34 AM
They are just sad idividuals with nothing remotely interesting in their pathetic little lives.

Please keep up the good work as you have made a big difference in Calis Beach. Something these rumour mongrels (not a spelling mistake) could never hope to do.
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Post by: Scunner on September 25, 2010, 10:58:46 AM
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Originally posted by Cavfan


I remember sitting over a drink on your lovely (ex) terrace and you both telling us about an idea you had had for the carnival- and now its a reality



And did you think "I think Pete's had one too many"? :D

Seriously, I would have. Loz and I have been discussing this topic (the Carnival, not Pete having a brandy!) on email and I was saying how it is a miracle the carnival even got going. Back in whenever (2004, 2005?) it would have been a ludicrous idea, forget it man!!! You want to do something there is absolutely no history of, close roads, collect money in buckets in a country where you need to fill in 3 forms to collect your dry cleaning??

Two people, neither exactly fluent Turkish speakers with plans to close Calis down for a day because trucks will be driving at 2kmph decorated to look like a beach or a spaceship, yeah good luck with the Belediye with that one Chrissie!

Just look at the achievement. A proper carnival, not a compromised version. Something other resorts can only dream about.

They couldn't have done it unless they were good honest people with hearts in the right place, that's the point. If anyone in authority even suspected it was something of a 'nice little earner' for them I'm sure they wouldn't have even let it get off the ground.

And ultimately we had two people running the show who's honesty and integrity is so impeccable that the question never once came into my head. Same goes for each and every member of the committee that I know - a table of gentlefolk.

That's it, I'm not praising Squiffy anymore!!!
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Post by: jantaylor on September 25, 2010, 23:27:51 PM
I have never been lucky enough to be in Calis for the carnival, but I have witnessed some of the preperation put into the fundraising...the auctions, the boot sales and the fantastic christmas fayre, which attracted so many people from other resorts.
The work that the committee put into raising money to help the children is greatly appreciated by those of us who love Calis.
The efforts of altruistic people will always be reviled by a minority as they themselves cannot comprehend a selfless act.
Thank you Pete and Chrissy and all of the committee for everything you do, and thank you Keith for the brilliant photographs that remind us again of the fruits of their work.
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Post by: kanga on September 28, 2010, 23:04:07 PM
Brilliant work,A hard job done by honest sincere people
shame some people  dont donate 3-4 prices of a bottle of efes weekly then
we would see an even greater return than the tremendous amount raised by everyone.
and the beer goggle brigade  would stop spreading the manure they do.
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Post by: tinkerman on September 29, 2010, 05:47:41 AM
Im collecting efes if there are any donations!
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Post by: Toky on September 30, 2010, 14:36:21 PM
Well how disgusting!! I loved the reference skip lickers but I think the gossips are "lavvy lickers" coz all they do is talk sh*te!.
I listened to Chrissie & Pete telling me about their  wonderful adventure back to the UK to visit elderly family and how quickly their joy must have been short lived to come back to all this rot. Folks need to observe them and their committee at work for the good of the under privileged kids of the area. Same goes for FIG, Animal charity and Embrace folks. The fundraising is tireless. Makes me very humble and emotional to see ex pats doing all this work in another country. You all should be revered, not slandered or insulted by these bawbags!!!!

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Post by: mercury on September 30, 2010, 15:16:47 PM
Thanks to everyone for your continuing support and Toky it was lovely to see u at our car boot. I know that you come to nearly all our events. You know how much we appreciate it. Anne
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Post by: kelebek on October 03, 2010, 12:48:43 PM
Nothing more to add really Pete and Chrissy - it has all been said.  But I certainly, and all my friends, hold both of you in great esteem.  Please know that, apart from being two lovely people, you have much respect here in Calis.  We are extremely grateful for all the hard work you do and the effort you willingly put in, in your own time.  Please do not be disheartened - you are truly appreciated.  Much love and thanks to you both and to the committee. Txx
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Post by: Baznshir on October 21, 2010, 16:20:58 PM
Hi  Chrissie  and  Pete,  we  arrived  home  this  morning and I  have  just  read  your  peice abour  your  fraudulent  holiday  and  I  think  you  know  what  Shirley  and  I  think  about  that ! Maybe  the  scandalmongers  are  hoping  that  you  will  step  down  so  that  they  can  bridge  the  gap  and  do  a  runner  with  next  years  money ! I  see  them  at  the  concert,  ex-pats  who  move  around  when  the  buckets  come  round,  they  fill the  gaps  where  the  buckets  have  been.
By  ex-pats,  I  do  not  mean  all  the  exes  who  are, in  general,  very  generouse  and  helpful but  there  are  some  who  cannot  see past  their  next  Efes.
It  was  nice  to  see  you  both  again,  don't  work  too  hard  but  keep  up  the  good  work. Barrie and  Shirley.
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Post by: Pi55y on October 22, 2010, 09:33:45 AM
Hi Barrie and Shirley it was great to meet you both again as well.  Thanks for your support (and thanks to everyone else for their lovely comments).

We really enjoyed our drenching at Karacula Market with you. A huge thanks  for everything :D and all of the lovely things that you brought out to donate to next years Promises Auction and the Christmas Fair raffle - you are really nice, kind people.