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General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Scunner on September 28, 2010, 13:16:51 PM

Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: Scunner on September 28, 2010, 13:16:51 PM
I would welcome thoughts and advice on this  :)

Having been away so long, some things seem to have changed and I wasn't here to see why. It appears that car security things like stoplocks, krookloks and other steering wheel security products seem to be far less widespread now - both in cars and for sale. I am thinking about getting something for our new baby but wonder why they seem to have slipped in popularity.

The car has an alarm & immobiliser so is protected to a good degree - is this why krookloks are not so popular now? Because standard car security is better as standard and car crime isn't what it was?

I also always wonder if such deterrents are just a minor problem to a car thief - in that they probably know how to get them off in seconds and possible cause even more damage in the process?

So is it worth getting one? All thoughts most welcome. Thanks
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: stoop on September 28, 2010, 13:23:50 PM
I'm marketing this one on ebay:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/stoopo/ebay/unusual-car-security-01.jpg)
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: stoop on September 28, 2010, 13:25:16 PM
A few at Halfords. I still see them on cars in York:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/categorydisplay_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_categoryId_165565_langId_-1
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: Scunner on September 28, 2010, 13:40:49 PM
I know you can get them at Halfords Stoop. That wasn't the question :D
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: Piscoe on September 28, 2010, 13:41:36 PM
Ah an automotive question, just up my street. Generally modern cars are deemed fairly safe from theft unless you have the keys. New engine management systems are such that they are extremely difficult to hot wire. This is the reason why a car thief's preferred method is break into your house and rob the keys to the car.

A friend of mine is in dispute with his insurers over a claim for theft. He could only produce one of the two keys the car was delivered with. The insurers claim he must have left a key in the ignition as new Ford's are deemed almost impossible to drive away unless you have the right key.

Your mini will not have such technology therefore I would deffo fit a good alarm/immobiliser. The locking barrel system on the mini was generally crap therefore was easy to enter. Can't remember how difficult it is to upgrade but should be possible.

Crooklocks etc are still available from Halfords as far as I know so why not go the whole hog:D
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: steveb1 on September 28, 2010, 13:47:22 PM
you got it in one
New cars tend to have alarms & immobilisers that are very efficient. With the engine management systems it is near imposable for your average thief to hot wire a modern car.
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: steveb1 on September 28, 2010, 13:52:35 PM
I think im a parrot
In defence it took that long for me to type it
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: Scunner on September 28, 2010, 14:01:07 PM
Still equally appreciated, thanks Steve - and Mr Piscoe.
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: scorcher on September 28, 2010, 14:01:17 PM
You could always keep it in your front room Keith !ps - a battery isolating key is how I protected my Mini 1275 GT.
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: tribalelder on September 28, 2010, 15:34:01 PM
Following on from Stoop's picture I saw yesterday near the Tuesday market, a motorcycle padlocked with a massive chain.......to the wheel of the car parked next to it 8)
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: stoop on September 28, 2010, 16:53:16 PM
Well I did say I still see them used in York - so I guess some people think they are worth having. Me? I rely on the alarms and immobilisers.
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: JohnF on September 28, 2010, 21:04:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunnerin that they probably know how to get them off in seconds and possible cause even more damage in the process?

15 - 20 secs to remove, this to include most aftermarket physical deterrents.
quote:
So is it worth getting one? All thoughts most welcome. Thanks

No

Best physical deterrent - having a car painted in such a colour thats most thiefs would baulk at being seen in it.  

Metallic purple... you're as safe as houses mate  :)

JF
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: JohnF on September 28, 2010, 21:07:33 PM
Ok, just had alook again - purpleish.

No self respecting thief would go near it - feel free to leave it unlocked in Perth Tesco's anytime (either of them  :) )

JF
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: kenkay on September 28, 2010, 22:10:58 PM
The main things about crooklocks and steering wheel boots is that they are very visible. Would be thieves are deterred before doing damage then giving up.
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: Scunner on September 28, 2010, 22:20:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by JohnF



Metallic purple... you're as safe as houses mate  :)

JF


(http://www.calisvilla.co.uk/minifront.jpg)

:D

Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: bewva on September 28, 2010, 22:34:57 PM
Private plates as well Scunner :D
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: Jim Fraser on September 29, 2010, 10:14:00 AM
Kenkays answer is spot on about crooklocks etc, if its an opportunist type thief - they will simply go for the easier prey.
And if its a real professional, nothing will stop them if yours is the car they want.
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: stoop on September 29, 2010, 10:23:44 AM
Just get the wife to pop it in her handbag - the car not the crook-lock!
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: c1 on September 29, 2010, 12:15:19 PM
Keith,just how dark does it get to need that many lights the boot must be full of a very large battery
Title: Stoplocks & Car Security Question
Post by: xxbilleigh-joxx on September 29, 2010, 13:47:30 PM
you could always do a Mr.Bean and take the steering wheel with you :D