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Title: Hisaronu is Total Rubbish
Post by: Scunner on November 07, 2010, 22:12:19 PM
Very quiet aren't they, CBF Sunday nights in November :D
Title: Hisaronu is Total Rubbish
Post by: valleyboy on November 07, 2010, 22:47:47 PM
Bored are we ???
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Post by: mike A on November 07, 2010, 22:50:09 PM
I think every one agrees with you Scunner.  ;) ;)
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Post by: Julesp on November 07, 2010, 22:53:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

Very quiet aren't they, CBF Sunday nights in November :D




Im not bored I have some nice people who have replied to my posts

:D
Title: Hisaronu is Total Rubbish
Post by: amca on November 07, 2010, 23:01:01 PM
Dump?
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Post by: bewva on November 07, 2010, 23:31:36 PM
I'm not rising to the bait ;)
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Post by: KKOB on November 07, 2010, 23:44:16 PM
You mean Chavaronu ? ;)
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Post by: Scunner on November 08, 2010, 00:02:43 AM
I won't pay more than 3.5 lira for an Efes me.

How is my "Get November moving" project going :D
Title: Hisaronu is Total Rubbish
Post by: GordonA on November 08, 2010, 00:40:37 AM
An absolutely fantastic place to spend your time, if you like chavs running around with there arses showing out of the bottom of there skimpies, showing off their breakfast, ( & thats just the male side of the family ). I got confused one day, following what I thought was a trail of red paint, turned out it was the blood trail left by ex-pat knuckles scraping along the ground!! : :) Mind you, I do like a bit of the old Karaoke, ( empty orchestra for empty brains), home from home!!
A holiday resort halfway up a mountain, waaaahey!!
I don't really give a toss, either way, so there!!
Gordy. : :): :):D[:o)][:o)]
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Post by: karaokemark on November 08, 2010, 06:01:33 AM
Mind you, I do like a bit of the old Karaoke, ( empty orchestra for empty brains), home from home!!

Gordon I'm offended you take my name in vain  ;)
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Post by: mercury on November 08, 2010, 07:59:42 AM
Well we have had some really good nights out up there. Such a shame that you lot are "past it". lol.
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Post by: Toky on November 08, 2010, 09:34:59 AM
Scunner, you're a big sh*t stirrer!!!! LOL
:D
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Post by: pookie on November 08, 2010, 10:04:51 AM
well at least it has a decent chinese restaurant !!!  it has to have something decent going for it ! ;)
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Post by: davybill on November 08, 2010, 11:36:38 AM
its not as good as circle one restuarant in chalice.
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Post by: pookie on November 08, 2010, 12:35:57 PM
Sorry, far prefer the Dragonaro.......but as for the rest of it....Calis every time !
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Post by: Jacqui Harvey on November 08, 2010, 13:04:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by davybill

its not as good as circle one restuarant in chalice.


Is that Serkul One in Calis that are not very kind to cats[?]

Back to the subject.  I would not go anywhere else to get my nails done and have a pedicure, half the fun is sitting with the sometimes very overweight ladies squeezed in bikini tops and shorts.. :D
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Post by: GordonA on November 08, 2010, 13:40:04 PM
It's the "overweight ladies" who are squeezed OUT of their bikinis & shorts, ( a Hisaronu favourite pastime,) that give ME the heeby jeebies. :P:D

No offence intended to your good self, Mark, old buddy, hope you & yours are very well. You don't blooming well do Karaoke anyway, matey!! ;)[:o)][:o)]
Gordy.
Title: Hisaronu is Total Rubbish
Post by: Jim Fraser on November 08, 2010, 13:53:16 PM
A fairly good topic heading to get everyone thinking.

Total rubbish, no thats a bit unfair, as we have to consider what the place is, why its there and who uses it.
Firstly it was purpose built as a holiday resort to draw visitors to the area, if this had not been done, then the options would probably have been to extend Olu Deniz, which due to the lack of growth area would have been of no real value, or make an area such as Calis into a much larger resort, now who would want that to happen.

It has some excellent restaurants, some good bars and some decent shops. The clientele who frequent the place are as mixed a bag as you could ever find, market forces have made it what it is today, and that market sadly are mainly the Brits.

Its most important reason as far as I am concerned is, if it were not there, twenty years ago my first visit to Turkey may have been to Marmaris instead, this would have meant two important things happening, firstly I would not have found the Fethiye area that I now love, and secondly I would never ever have came back to Turkey if Marmaris had been my first destination, now theres a place thats rubbish. (Is it OK to say that.....)
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Post by: amca on November 08, 2010, 14:07:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Toky

Scunner, you're a big sh*t stirrer!!!! LOL
:D



He's not fussy. Any size, he will stir it.
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Post by: Scunner on November 08, 2010, 14:14:39 PM
Especially on November Sundays.

I heard today that people staying permanently in Turkey without residency will no longer be allowed to do the island hop and stay using tourist visas. The new system will only allow you to stay for any 3 days in 7, assuming that you didn't leave the country between day 4 and 7. Anyone arriving in Turkey by plane will have to leave by bicycle and won't be allowed to return until they have grown a moustache. If you overstay, you will have to bake a cake for the passport police and upon eating it they will arrest you for working illegally. You will then be taken to Dalaman and forced onto a bus that goes directly to Altinkum, where you will have to live the rest of your life.
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Post by: GordonA on November 08, 2010, 14:36:53 PM
Wow, Keith, that sounds just like the ideal all-in holiday schedule for Stoop, methinks, that would give him an idea of how the "poor" ordinary people live, love, laugh, & be happy!!

Any idea on booking costs, timetables, that sort of old malarkey?? A quick response would be nice, as I can see this type of thing catching on. Do the distaff side of the departing "Bike People", or " Bikies" have to grow moustaches as well, or is there a special dispensation for them? (Issued at Esnaf Dispensary probably).

If I leave Fethiye before I arrive in Turkey, do you believe that it would be possible to get back to the U.K. within the allotted time scale, or would I be expected by the relevant authority, (probably the Monument of the Heads), to meet myself half-way, swap saddles in mid-pedal, & "kick that mule" to my destination all on my lonesome??

Finally, any jobs going for agents of this "dream scheme"?
Gordy.
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Post by: amca on November 08, 2010, 14:41:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner


I heard today that people staying permanently in Turkey without residency will no longer be allowed to do the island hop and stay using tourist visas. The new system will only allow you to stay for any 3 days in 7, assuming that you didn't leave the country between day 4 and 7.


You will have to take all your possessions with you. There should be no trace left of your existence left behind.
 The advice from the consulate is that you should take a bin bag and a 10 litre bottle with you when visiting the toilet.
The consulate did emphasize the advice was based on the latest bulletin from the British Embassy in Ankara.
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Post by: Scunner on November 08, 2010, 14:47:35 PM
Yes I forgot that part. You will not be allowed to return to get your possessions so you must take them all with you. Somewhat cruelly, a new law restricts luggage on bikes to no more than two small saddle bags and 3 goats. People attempting to leave on tricycles will be ridiculed as is normal under international law.
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Post by: amca on November 08, 2010, 14:57:40 PM
A notice containing all the new regulations is on display in the Tourist Office in Diyibakir.
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Post by: bewva on November 08, 2010, 18:49:58 PM
At least the Mrs won't need to shave her tash off before we go back then:D
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Post by: kenkay on November 08, 2010, 23:43:01 PM
Nowt wrong with Hissy  8) I've been loads of times. Next year I might even get off the dolmus :D
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Post by: Sleuth on November 09, 2010, 10:31:30 AM
As I have said many times before and endorsed by many " the best part of a trip / stay in Calis is the boat taxi over there and back.
Rememebering of course to `wipe your feet well` when you return to Fethiye Harbour  ;)
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Post by: Sleuth on November 09, 2010, 10:47:08 AM
I  like this web site...personally, for us who visit our Apartment in Hisaronu for 18 weeks in the year, this website is informative, helpful, useful and at times the humour on here amuses me... particularly Scunners  :-)  but  I, and many others I know do not particularly like Calis.. but when I see / read Calisites on here slagging off Hisaronu, I have to remind them to just ` look around them` not quite `shangri la` Calis is it ?    why keep knocking Hisaronu ?
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Post by: mike A on November 09, 2010, 10:53:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kenkay

Nowt wrong with Hissy  8) I've been loads of times. Next year I might even get off the dolmus :D


:D:D:D
Title: Hisaronu is Total Rubbish
Post by: mike A on November 09, 2010, 10:56:29 AM
why keep knocking Hisaronu ?

Never give a sucker an even break.  ;)
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Post by: Jacqui Harvey on November 09, 2010, 12:31:31 PM
We met a couple 5 years ago who became friends. They have a disabled son and were looking for somewhere suitable to go on holiday.   We told them we had bought a place in Turkey and loved it.  We were surprised to hear from them that they did not like Turkey, they told use they used to go to the same little village in Turkey, every year but stopped going because the village changed so much. They said when they first went the farmers drove there stock through the streets, but the place had become so commericialised they decided not to go back  We told them about Calis and persuased them to try it.  They did and loved it so much they returned each year since.    The little village was Hisaronu.  


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Post by: Highlander on November 09, 2010, 12:40:51 PM
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Originally posted by Jacqui Harvey

....the farmers drove there stock through the streets



Still happens every Friday in Dingwall.
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Post by: dycedon on November 09, 2010, 12:51:19 PM
Must admit, we like hissy for a few nights out during our breaks, dont fancy 2 weeks there though.
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Post by: Scunner on November 09, 2010, 13:23:06 PM
We have also had some very good nights in Hisaronu. Although I wouldn't like to live there I feel I need (sadly) to point out that I quite obviously started this topic as a bit of fun. Like Pooks we were big fans of the Dragonaro Chinese restaurant, and also The Shine in Hisaronu for a half decent Indian, all washed down with brandies with home made chocolate milk shake (made with ice cream :D ). We also used to take the kids to a place that was a long outside terrace with a ballpark inside - I just can't remember the name now - we had one of their birthday parties there too.
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Post by: pookie on November 09, 2010, 14:32:43 PM
:Dsometimes (only sometimes) I wish Hissy was closer to Uzumlu....it would save Mr Pookie and I getting up in the middle of the night to go and collect teenagers from the bars (cos they aren't old enough yet to stay out ALL night, and the cost of taxi's back from Hissy to Uzumlu make the evening too expensive for their budget).  As I said, thats only sometimes (like 2.30 / 3.00 in the morning)...:D
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Post by: Sleuth on November 09, 2010, 16:52:04 PM
We fell in love with Turkey in 1999  when we discovered Olu Deniz, and the totally different attitude of the Turkish people
( friendliness etc ) compared to other Med destinations we had frequented over the years.Also the local scenery, and the proximity of Fethiye ( which we love ) also the closeness of Kaya ( whose charm we indulge in frequently now )
In 2003 we had the money and the opportunity to buy a property in the area. We were fortunate to meet back then an estate agent, who also became and still is a very good friend of ours ( Ahmet Akay of Lagoon Estates in Fethiye ) actually back then Lagoon Estates had not materialised .
We were shown properties back then in Calis  and instantly disliked it. We fell in love with a duplex apt on the edge of Hisaronu, towards the forest area.
I have said all this before... yes there is a `Bar Street` which kicks in from about 9/10 pm most nights in the season.Probably comparable to your `promenade` bit in Calis  where all the bars and restaurants are.Most Turkish resorts unfortunately now have a Bar Street, even Olu  Deniz.
Hisaronu`s Bar Street aside, which can be avoided late at night anyway. The village boasts excellent restaurants, lovely wood land walks, 6 mins away by Dolmus to Olu, the same for the charming Kaya village,and the beach another 5 mins away..... 25  mins away from Fethiye,and we have lots of Turkish locals in Hisaronu,unlike Calis...Geographically Hisaronu is far better placed than Calis  so tell me ? why do you knock Hisaronu ??  We love it there, but probably like you Calis people, we prefer out of season, or May / June / September / October, and avoid mid july to the end of August like the plague..
 Anyway are you trying to tell me you dont get the late night beer swilling yobo types ( male and females ) in Calis ?  are there bars over there not showing football with the volume up to the extreme ? are there no Karaoke bars  booming loudly and selfishly in Calis ? Are there no bars in Calis not blasting out there music at night ??Are there not the fat middle aged  women walking around with mini bikini`s on, covered in tattoos, walking around Calis away from the beach ??  are there no groups of young girls parading along your `prom` bit hoping to get the attention of the Turkish men gawking at them ??  Do you not get pestered by Staff inviting you into their bars or restaurants over there in Calis ??
If you dont then Calis must be unique in the whole of Turkey  :)

Come on  now... of course all the above negativity applies to Calis as well ... so Hisaronu aint that much difference to Calis after 9 pm at night is it ??    ;)
I rest my case [^]
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Post by: dycedon on November 09, 2010, 17:21:06 PM
Sleuth, as my last post said i like a few nights out in hissy and enjoy it, but believe me there is a world of difference between hissy and Calis in most of the things you have mentioned, and no im  not a calisite just like the place, more quieter more chilled out but everones taste is different, if not it would be a queer old world.
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Post by: desmartinson on November 09, 2010, 17:56:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

Especially on November Sundays.

I heard today that people staying permanently in Turkey without residency will no longer be allowed to do the island hop and stay using tourist visas. The new system will only allow you to stay for any 3 days in 7, assuming that you didn't leave the country between day 4 and 7. Anyone arriving in Turkey by plane will have to leave by bicycle and won't be allowed to return until they have grown a moustache. If you overstay, you will have to bake a cake for the passport police and upon eating it they will arrest you for working illegally. You will then be taken to Dalaman and forced onto a bus that goes directly to Altinkum, where you will have to live the rest of your life.

absolutely brilliant Scun, now perhaps the Nil Bar effes drinkers will give it a rest and find something else to invent. ;)[^]:D:D
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Post by: bigvic on November 09, 2010, 19:01:05 PM
Ifrequent the nil bar(frequently)and i drink the efes,in copius amounts,and i know most of the clientele,but i don't know anyone who is likely to be spreading these bulls*it rumours.If anyone does please let me know who they are...
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Post by: Highlander on November 09, 2010, 19:13:15 PM
Ball in your court I think Des.
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Post by: simpsons on November 09, 2010, 19:27:44 PM
I remember when BurgerKing and McDonalds, were going to open in Fethiye, and a majority of Hisaronu tourists did not want them, as it would spoil their little bit of "Turkish Heaven". These same tourists think that Hisaronu is typically turkish with its Chinese, Indian, Mexican, Pizza Houses and Fish and Chip shops. Oh and lets not forget a certain popular restaurant that serves Indian Curries, authentic and "To die for", straight out of a Sharwoods jar. "Typically Turkish", get real. All I can say is Im glad I moved out of there to Fethiye where I have the best of both worlds. Oh and just for the record, My wife and I much prefer Calis than Olu Deniz.
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Post by: Scunner on November 09, 2010, 19:41:30 PM
I started this topic as a very obvious bit of fun.
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Post by: Sleuth on November 09, 2010, 19:52:52 PM
love Fethiye... but its a couple of degrees cooler in the summer up here in H  ;)
Why do you all judge Hisaronu only by its  Bar Street ?  I notice you dont make comments about all the plus things I mentioned  above about Hisaronu .....  
My point here is...We have Burger Kings and McDonalds and Indian / Chinese Restaurants and the like where I live, ... But I live in Cheltenham, the `jewel in the cotswolds`.... `Garden Town of England`  ;) its a lovely town surrounded by lovely scenery....mmmmmmm,   just ask anyone who`s been  / visited here....  :)    reminds me of Hisaronu`s locality
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Post by: Julesp on November 09, 2010, 22:54:11 PM
This getting too serious I think

Only went to Hisaronu once this year. that was for the dolphin march. but i had to partake of a curry while there. Was lovely. not a great fan of Bombay in Calis though ok when desperate for a curry fix and too lazy to make for myself.
By the way went Serkul 2 for a chinese tonight Was nice as usual I refuse to be drawn into the Serkul 1 or 2 debate,dont know the politics etc , just know Ive tried both and personally prefer Serkul 2 for food
Both Serkul 1 and 2 are now doing all you can eat for 15 tl

Isnt it good when tourist season gone:D Though I have no idea how they can earn money at these prices
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Post by: amca on November 09, 2010, 23:10:49 PM
Scunner
Why not treat this thread like Hisaronu and shut it down for the winter?
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Post by: Scunner on November 09, 2010, 23:19:28 PM
(http://www.calisvilla.co.uk/tumbleweed2.gif)
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Post by: amca on November 09, 2010, 23:46:29 PM
That's not Hisaronu !
Too busy for November.
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Post by: pookie on November 10, 2010, 09:24:37 AM
:D:D:DA bit of fun you say Scunner ?  ;): :):D  You stirring wotsit  ;): :):D
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Post by: desmartinson on November 10, 2010, 11:16:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Highlander

Ball in your court I think Des.

Think i'll settle for tie break John. ;)
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Post by: Karabag on November 10, 2010, 12:32:27 PM
I am going to visit Hisaronu tomorrow for a few days to look at the different areas around Fethiye and I can't wait to go the Indian restaurant yum yum we don't have one in our part of Turkey so it's going to be a real treat for us :0))
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Post by: Sleuth on November 10, 2010, 12:51:58 PM
You will struggle to find one open I`m afraid....  all closed down now,Chinese open week ends, and one or two other restaurants and a few bars open weekly but Hisaronu is like a ghost town now til next May like most turkish coastal resorts.
For many, us included.. from now til May can be an enjoyable experience out there..For us though we prefer the xmas period with family in the UK  and always will... but we cant wait for our week out there over the new years eve period  !!:D
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Post by: brianthegardener on November 10, 2010, 14:03:46 PM
Curry Palace is open thursday, friday,saturday through out the winter..can highly recomend the place.  :)
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Post by: Karabag on November 10, 2010, 15:04:50 PM
We will be there tomorrow night Brian for sure, can't wait!
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Post by: Colwyn on November 10, 2010, 15:35:13 PM
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Originally posted by Sleuth

Hisaronu is like a ghost town now til next May like most turkish coastal resorts.


Is this so?

I was in a coastal resort rather smaller than Hisaronu all through October and November last year and even at the end of my stay I only saw one of the many restaurants closed. I also visited Marmaris a couple of times and that certainly wasn't closed. I very much doubt that Bodrum was. Calis and Fethiye seem (from CBF) to have plenty of winter options. Perhaps someone can speak for Kalkan and Kas?

Hisaronu may close down in "off season" but I think it does a great disservice to people in the tourist industry in other resorts in Turkey to suggest that they are ghost towns for six months of the year.
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Post by: nuttybird on November 10, 2010, 16:39:06 PM
Ive been reading this thread as it goes along, I know Scunner started this up as a bit of fun and a wind up (cheeky scunner) but I still feel like adding my bit ;-) Have been staying in H for years, and each year I see something different in surrounding areas when I go out for walks etc etc, also each year I notice that H is not my scene much anymore, I do love the shops! and like the restuarants, and some of the bars, and me and the fella are quite happy sitting in one of the garden bars having a few drinks in the evening, but i cant quite keep up anymore, and im only 30  :) I do like H, and I do love Olu, but I had a bad experience in Olu this year, and it really scared me, long story but a Jewellery shop owner broke my real pandora bracelet, started screaming at me it was a fake (it was brought as my 30th birthday present this year, and is not a fake) I demanded he pay for it (as it would be out of the guarantee time frain) then he just got nasty and the owner and other shop owners started to get involed, in the end he paid me, (he checked the pandora website for price) and I was happy, but then he chased after me and grabbed me and pulled me back, the fella then pushed him away, we couldnt understand why, when he paid me he then came after me,  we walked away but they started following us, in the end we managed to get back to H (long story cut short) In all the 11 years ive been going to that area ive never experienced any trouble or anything like it. But as i was saying im trying not to worry about going next year, but I am worrying, even about staying in H, silly perhaps, but thats just me. But the long and the short of it is, I like H, and Olu and surrounding areas, but have promised myself to see Calis more next year. Everyone has their preferences  :) x
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Post by: Sleuth on November 10, 2010, 17:02:39 PM
A very unfortunate experience for you I agree, but in fairness, that experience could have happened anywhere in Turkey or indeed anywhere, and is no reflection on Hisaronu.
Colwyn...  Kas  and Kalkan I believe are ghost towns also.
When I use the term `ghost town` of course I am referring to the shops and bars... there are of course plenty of social activities going on with the ex pats of H and Ovacik throughout winter...and  I dont mean propping up the bars... although like Calis,  that seems a popular pastime for many :-(
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Post by: mike A on November 10, 2010, 17:16:02 PM
Kalkans a ghost town, Kas is not.
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Post by: nuttybird on November 10, 2010, 17:19:04 PM
Oh completely agree sleuth, it could of happened anywhere, I just got carried away with my story  :) and eventually got round to what I wanted to say!  :)
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Post by: Toky on November 10, 2010, 18:23:18 PM
For the Boss
http://[IMG]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/Toky_2006/ManUtd-1-1.jpg[/IMG]
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Post by: Scunner on November 10, 2010, 18:51:38 PM
S.S. surely :D
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Post by: Anne on November 10, 2010, 19:14:06 PM
nice one Toky
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Post by: Karabag on November 10, 2010, 20:28:14 PM
Well I will report my findings when I get back and let you all know what I think of Hisaronu in the winter and infact all the other areas but please remember and don't beat me up, it will be my thoughts. My favourite drink is gin and tonic but I don't expect it to be yours ;0)
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Post by: Toky on November 10, 2010, 22:45:37 PM
S should be followed by  2 asterix, then the T Scunner. Slight imperfection on my part but you get what I mean!
 ;)
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Post by: desmartinson on November 11, 2010, 07:00:23 AM
Cant understand it, what are they trying to say Keith. ;)