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Title: William and Kate to marry
Post by: Eric on November 16, 2010, 13:15:24 PM
They are probably the last to know:D:D:D ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11765422
Title: William and Kate to marry
Post by: karaokemark on November 16, 2010, 14:10:33 PM
Good luck to them, I hope they don't get hounded by the press and tv media
Mark
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Post by: nuttybird on November 16, 2010, 14:32:17 PM
Congratulations to them both. Im hoping this means we all get an extra day off next year for the Royal Wedding  :) Princess Di & Charlie boy got married on my 1st birthday (29th July 1981) so I wonder if they will follow suit?!
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Post by: stoop on November 16, 2010, 15:02:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by nuttybird

Congratulations to them both. Im hoping this means we all get an extra day off next year for the Royal Wedding  :) Princess Di & Charlie boy got married on my 1st birthday (29th July 1981) so I wonder if they will follow suit?!



You mean you are 1 again next year ;)

God luck to them - she seems like a level headed sort of gal and he's an OK sort of chappie.
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Post by: Colwyn on November 16, 2010, 15:26:21 PM
Yet more money I'll have to donate to that damn family.
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Post by: scorcher on November 16, 2010, 16:12:07 PM
Oh dear,Colwyn- that's your invitation gone down the tubes then ?
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Post by: BM06 on November 16, 2010, 19:10:31 PM
http://www.homebits.co.uk/acatalog/STAINLESS_STEEL_SELF_ADHESIVE_LASER_CUT_WC_SYMBOL.html Can not wait for the tea towels and mugs etc to commemorate the happy day!  ;):D
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Post by: amca on November 16, 2010, 19:26:23 PM
There will be no shortage of mugs!
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Post by: Jacqui Harvey on November 16, 2010, 19:43:48 PM
I really don't like the idea of her getting Diana's engagement ring.  I know I would want my own ring, Diana did not have a happy marriage which is a good reason to keep this in the box and make William stump up for a new ring.  
P.S. I am now sick of it being on the news, it's getting boring.
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Post by: Scunner on November 16, 2010, 22:56:50 PM
I wonder if the BBC & ITV news folk, and the politicians really do think that the whole country will have received such a huge lift from this wonderful news. That George Alligator on BBC six o'clock news beaming like a proud father in Camp Bastion, telling British soldiers stationed there that they must be thrilled by the news.

I'm sure that without the cameras in their faces, they couldn't really give a toss, as I couldn't. Good luck to them both, they seem nice enough people but I am far from "thrilled" or "absolutely delighted". I did not feel a huge lift when I heard the news, in fact my spirits remained entirely unlifted and unchanged. I am more thrilled to see a squirrel out of the window to be honest :D
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Post by: amca on November 16, 2010, 23:22:36 PM
I saw a squirrel today.
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Post by: puma on November 17, 2010, 01:16:15 AM
nice enough couple but like scunner i would like to see 2 squirrels,playing with their nuts
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Post by: grizabella on November 17, 2010, 08:23:20 AM
I'M with Jacqui on this one.Would feel that Diana's engagement ring would be a bit of a millstone.That was one unhappy marriage that I wouldn't wish on anyone..............where were these squirrels?????
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Post by: scouser2 on November 17, 2010, 08:46:41 AM
Agree with Colwyn, yet more money the taxpayers in the U.K. will have to stump up for this young lady on the Civil List.
Agree with Jacqui about the ring. If he wants his late mother to be a part of things, he could have had the ring re-modelled into another piece of jewellery to be presented to his wife on their wedding day.
The news coverage was very sycophantic,and I wasn't moved in the slightest.Some people have suggested that this will be a boost to the Royal Family, I don't think that. I think that with all the cutbacks that people living in the U.K. are having forced upon them, the last thing they want to see is a multi-million pound wedding....paid for  by them.
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Post by: pookie on November 17, 2010, 08:49:59 AM
I wish them good luck as i would any other young couple setting off together.  But lets not over egg it shall we ?!  sick of the flipping news already and it will be hype hype hype now until the big day.  

I saw a black squirrel on the way to work this morning....a handsome beast he was    :)
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Post by: stoop on November 17, 2010, 09:33:26 AM
It doesn't look like there is going to be any extra public money allocated to the wedding - so keep you hair on Colwyn ;) The cost is to come out of either the Civil List (which we already pay to the Queen) or her own personal money (well she is worth £290 mil. I'm sure  William and Kate will be careful not to over indulge in these hard times.

I'm really looking forward to it - might get a day off work to go fishing again like I did last time  :)
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Post by: sandgrounder on November 17, 2010, 09:41:37 AM
I quite honestly couldn't give Two hoots!! I guess I won't be buying a daily paper for the next few days, there won't be any other news in them :o
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Post by: stoop on November 17, 2010, 09:46:03 AM
An interesting point regarding the cost of the Royal Family.

It costs approx £42 mill for the UK to stay in the European Union for ONE DAY - slightly more than as it costs to keep the Royals for ONE YEAR.

I think my £1.33 per year (as a tax payer) is something I am willing to pay to keep the Royals.

I know which I would get rid of!
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Post by: marina on November 17, 2010, 10:03:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Jacqui Harvey

I really don't like the idea of her getting Diana's engagement ring.  I know I would want my own ring, Diana did not have a happy marriage which is a good reason to keep this in the box and make William stump up for a new ring.  
P.S. I am now sick of it being on the news, it's getting boring.



Hear, hear Jacqui, on both counts.  I was a bit disturbed that he thought it was a good idea to give her Diana's ring. Of course, she won't have had much of a say in it.
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Post by: Scunner on November 17, 2010, 10:20:57 AM
You can't please people - complaints about another royal we will have to pay for and the first time they do a bit of recycling...

:D
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Post by: marina on November 17, 2010, 11:19:02 AM
:D :D :D
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Post by: hillside on November 17, 2010, 14:07:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by marina

Quote
Originally posted by Jacqui Harvey

I really don't like the idea of her getting Diana's engagement ring.  I know I would want my own ring, Diana did not have a happy marriage which is a good reason to keep this in the box and make William stump up for a new ring.  
P.S. I am now sick of it being on the news, it's getting boring.



I was so shocked to see Diana's ring on Kates finger. I know it must have great sentimental value to Wills but it is hardly iconic of a happy marriage and to me seeing it I was touched by a great sadness, remembering Diana as she was just started out as a 'Royal'. My friend says I'm too superstitious but if I was Kate I'd want my own ring to celebrate my engagement and not one that is touched by such tragedy.
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Post by: Colwyn on November 17, 2010, 15:21:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stoop

I know which I would get rid of!

So do I, and I would start by looking for the bunch of wasters in Buckhaming Palace - and then Balmoral, then Sandingham, then Clarence House, then Highgrove House, and then ..........
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Post by: stoop on November 17, 2010, 15:39:24 PM
Well I'd start in Brussels! They waste more of our money and cost us in the UK 365x more than the royal family. At least Liz brings a few million tourists to the UK.

The taxpayer profits from the vast income from the Crown Estate, which owns great chunks of London, including Regent Street. Each monarch signs over these profits to the government in exchange for the much, much smaller Civil List. So in fact the money they get from the Civil List is their own anyway.



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Post by: mike A on November 17, 2010, 16:40:50 PM
"I think my £1.33 per year (as a tax payer) is something I am willing to pay to keep the Royals."

I am not, but I don't get the choice :(
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Post by: mike A on November 17, 2010, 16:55:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stoop

Well I'd start in Brussels! They waste more of our money and cost us in the UK 365x more than the royal family. At least Liz brings a few million tourists to the UK.

The taxpayer profits from the vast income from the Crown Estate, which owns great chunks of London, including Regent Street. Each monarch signs over these profits to the government in exchange for the much, much smaller Civil List. So in fact the money they get from the Civil List is their own anyway.



Thats odd, Charlie owns vast estates in Lambeth, some of it slum housing, with all of the profit going to The Duchy of Cornwall estate, IE Highgrove. :(
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Post by: Sleuth on November 17, 2010, 19:15:18 PM
I / we are quite pleased about it.I think the wedding is going to be a real, much needed `tonic` for the country next year, something at last traditionally  English / British ... lots of flag waving and all the pomp, and ceremony etc ...and yes  the papers and the media will be full of it from now til then ...  good... a  welcome change from the daily depressing reading about rising immigration :-(  , rising costs, benefit and welfare cheats making the headlines , and other depressing news.    So bring it on !!
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Post by: c1 on November 18, 2010, 10:57:41 AM
I would rather pay money for this than the millions given to "victims" of the American prison in Cuba. Sleuth has the right answer it's dome thing to be cheerful about.
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Post by: Scunner on November 18, 2010, 11:18:10 AM
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Post by: stoop on November 18, 2010, 11:49:39 AM
Mike,

I thought Lambeth was part of The Crown Estate and not The Duchy. Even so - if he does own it then it's nothing to do with this discussion really. The Duchy of Cornwall is separate from Crown Estates (which is how the Royal Family is funded) and he pays something in the region of £3.5 mill per year (40%) tax on his income from the Duchy.

As Sleuth says - 'bring it on'. The country will benefit massively from tourism income as well as sales of all the tacky crap that will be made over the next few months.

One thing we do very well is pomp and ceremony and over 40 million people will watch it worldwide. What an advert for the UK! We will reap far more than it costs in monetary terms.



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Post by: Sleuth on November 18, 2010, 12:43:52 PM
I can visualise it now.. if the `big` day falls in May / June next year, the turks will of course go overboard with their coverage on the tv`s in the bars  in Hisaronu, Calis and everywhere.... red white and blue balloons etc, bunting....fireworks... it would be a  similar scenario to that if we were appearing in a world cup final
( spare the obvious comments please ) as far as the turks are concerened.
But unlike a major footie match where its mostly males....with comments like "   hereally f*****g  squandered that goal scoring chance [:(!] " you will see hundreds of females grabbing the best seats/ tables and hear comments like " oh what a lovely bridal dress blah  blah  blah......

gonna be interesting and different [^]
Title: William and Kate to marry
Post by: stoop on November 18, 2010, 12:48:42 PM
gonna be fly fishing for me  8)
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Post by: Colwyn on November 18, 2010, 15:49:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Sleuth

I can visualise it now ... oh what a lovely bridal dress blah  blah  blah......

Sleuth - Sky's royal correspondent in Hisaronu.
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Post by: mike A on November 18, 2010, 16:15:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stoop

Mike,

I thought Lambeth was part of The Crown Estate and not The Duchy. Even so - if he does own it then it's nothing to do with this discussion really. The Duchy of Cornwall is separate from Crown Estates (which is how the Royal Family is funded) and he pays something in the region of £3.5 mill per year (40%) tax on his income from the Duchy.

As Sleuth says - 'bring it on'. The country will benefit massively from tourism income as well as sales of all the tacky crap that will be made over the next few months.

One thing we do very well is pomp and ceremony and over 40 million people will watch it worldwide. What an advert for the UK! We will reap far more than it costs in monetary terms.



Only in the last few years have the royals agreed to pay the full tax on there earnings.
Lambeth is owned by the Duchy who are notoriously quick in rent rises but slow in updating the properties, they are nothing more than slum landlords.
It was your assertion that the profits from their london estates goes back to the government, in this case not so.
and I have strong objections to paying anything to these pampered ponces.

"With one hand they put a penny in the pot for the poor and with the other take another
and a thousand more"  Rory Mcleod.




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Post by: stoop on November 18, 2010, 17:09:51 PM
Mike, With due respect then, Lambeth has nothing to do with Crown Estates which is where the Queen gets her money from. So the argument that the tax payer will somehow foot the bill for this wedding has nothing at all to do with Charles as he is not yet King. Anyway if you look into how the estate works you will see that all the profit from the Crown Estate does go into the Treasury and the Monarch receives his or her money from the Civil List which is taken from the very same money:

http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/about_us.htm

Maybe we should agree to differ on this. You think you are paying and I think I'm not  :)
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Post by: mike A on November 18, 2010, 23:05:12 PM
"nothing at all to do with Charles"

What do you mean, nothing to do with Charles, he's the lads father,  he should be footing the bill out of his own funds, not the civil list, however its made up.
I guess the real difference between us is that you see the royals as somehow beneficial to this country and I see them as parasites from a ever decreasing  gene pool.
As you say, once again we must agree to differ. ;)
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Post by: amca on November 19, 2010, 09:45:46 AM
I think he can afford to buy a round of drinks, at least.

Analysis of the data by the BBC shows Capita was the biggest private sector recipient of taxpayers' money - and that Prince Charles got a cheque from the Ministry of Justice for £667,000 - rent for Dartmoor prison, which is on his land. He was also paid £677,000 by the Army for access to Dartmoor.
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Post by: Jacqui Harvey on November 19, 2010, 10:26:00 AM
The Queen will foot the bill for the Wedding but not the security on the day which will cost the Taxpayer twenty million pounds.
I also heard last night on Question Time that William who is being posted to Wales will not be living in barracks but have his own place and the cost to the taxpayer for security for this will be 1.4 million.  This on top of us paying half a million pounds a year for the security that Prince Andrew insists on having for his two daughters.
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Post by: scouser2 on November 19, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
Who pays for the wedding and reception is immeterial compared to the cost of security for this wedding. The estimated cost of security for Charles & Dianas wedding was around 30 million GBP almost 30 years ago. According to the BBC yesterday the cost of security for William & Kates wedding will be aproximately 20 million GBP, and paid for by the taxpayer.
Sorry Jacqui, you beat me to it with your reply.
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Post by: c1 on November 19, 2010, 11:34:12 AM
I bet all those who don't like the idea are left wing in their mind set, and were very happy at the cost to tax payers for Blair policies of the Dome,going to war in Iraq,using the queens flight more than any other government,bankrupting our country.giving in to and giving away british rights to Euro land etc. Come this should be a joyous occasion, and those who don't like it will have to lump it. that should get the blood flowing in certain quarters
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Post by: mike A on November 19, 2010, 22:45:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by amca

I think he can afford to buy a round of drinks, at least.

Analysis of the data by the BBC shows Capita was the biggest private sector recipient of taxpayers' money - and that Prince Charles got a cheque from the Ministry of Justice for £667,000 - rent for Dartmoor prison, which is on his land. He was also paid £677,000 by the Army for access to Dartmoor.



2.5 Million according to the BBC 10 oclock news.:(
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Post by: stoop on November 20, 2010, 00:03:30 AM
.. and the income from the wedding and the Royal family in tourism alone is calculated in billions not millions!

Get off their backs. They bring in far more money to this country than they cost.

If you want to see wasted money then just have a little look at Brussels and the cost of the EU. £42 million a DAY we pay for that privilege!!!

as a footnote - just see how far the good news travels:

http://www.china-daily.org/China-News/Wedding-cost-the-British-royal-Prince-William-is-responsible-for-public-safety-and-the-burden-of-the-premium/
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Post by: mike A on November 20, 2010, 00:38:33 AM
"Get off their backs."

Why, just because you doff your cap to the them doesn't mean I have to
you want them, you pay for them
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Post by: Sleuth on November 20, 2010, 09:00:49 AM
Well said C1  and Stoop !!!
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Post by: Colwyn on November 20, 2010, 09:28:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by c1
left wing in their mind set, and were very happy at the cost to tax payers for Blair policies


Left wingers supporting New Labour??? I think you're politically confused C1 old chap!
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Post by: c1 on November 20, 2010, 16:50:47 PM
sorry Colwyn you means old labour like kinnock, who was / is on euro gravy train as is his wife, oh and his son topman at british council. no nepotism their. or prehaps Two jags prescot I won't go into the fact he was one of the loudest voice declaiming the seedy Major front bench pot and kettle spring to mind.Or Wedgie Benn the well known left winger who gave up his title to remain in commons he didn't give away/ up the money did he, or prehaps Deggies the well known fashionable commie who was running / ruining Liverpool years ago, now invovled in building / selling property in north Cyprus.Of subject sorry for that.:D
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Post by: Scunner on November 20, 2010, 17:04:29 PM
Not Northern Cyprus.