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General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Lisax on November 19, 2010, 17:09:36 PM
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If anyone were to meet William and Katie wahat would you say to them then? re wedding and the future?
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Get married in a Registry Office and save the "Common People" a fortune, don't sponge of the country like Mumsy & "Phil el Greco", don't let urinated-up Froggie chauffeurs drive you through tunnels at night, and, Katie, please keep your eyes open for Horsey-Faced divorcees who will only be after his title!! But, never mind all that Katie, at least you won't be expected to clean ****ty nappies, you will probably have some poor serf to carry out that "onerous task". :-\
Gordy.
Alba gu brath.
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Fill your boots up son :)
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Just bought a new pair today, John, one size bigger than necessary, so plenty of room. 'kin Bring it on!! With all the crap we have been exposed to this week regarding this "inbred" family of numpties,it's just a bloody good job that the Mediaeval "Jus Primae Noctis", is no longer observed!!
See this link;
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Jus_primae_noctis
Just imagine your old man leering over your new bride!!
Gordy.
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I'd wish them a happy marriage together as I approach 25 years of marriage, I'd like everyone to experience what I have ( metaphorically speaking)
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I look forward to meeting William and Kate in Ocakbasi then :D
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Originally posted by GordonA
Get married in a Registry Office and save the "Common People" a fortune, don't sponge of the country like Mumsy & "Phil el Greco", don't let urinated-up Froggie chauffeurs drive you through tunnels at night, and, Katie, please keep your eyes open for Horsey-Faced divorcees who will only be after his title!! But, never mind all that Katie, at least you won't be expected to clean ****ty nappies, you will probably have some poor serf to carry out that "onerous task". :-\
Gordy.
Alba gu brath.
Gordon it is because we have a Royal Family that you can spout your drivel, you should go and live in a country with a dictator, because I for one am sick of reading the verbal diarrhoea.
Mark
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That man's gone through enough already in his young life.For God's sake let's not queue up to knock him down again before he even puts a foot wrong.!!
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I would wish them every happiness, and why not!
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Switch your computer off then, because I live in a country where I can say what I like, whereas you are living in a country where foreigners are scared to open there mouths about most subjects. Remember, my friend that what is "drivel" to some, is Gospel to others, just look at the present government that Britain has been stuck with! By the way, the fact that I, and many, many others like me, can say EXACTLY what we like, has got absolutely nothing to do with the fact that there is a royal? family encamped in the capitol city. I live in a democracy, which is a political form of government in which governing power is derived from the people, (& NOT your royal? family,) either by direct referendum (direct democracy) or by means of elected representatives of the people (representative democracy). I rest my case.
Gordy.
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I think that "clown" is spot on for you! Well self chosen,Gordy.
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james 1st of scotland was king of england ????????
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Oh Puma why oh why start him on on one!!!! thank goodness goodness he is out on a bit of business today.
I feel a history lesson cometh...lol
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Come on Puma, keep up with the rest of the class, surely you must mean James V1 of Scotland who also became James 1 of England?.
James VI & I (19 June 1566 - 27 March 1625) was King of Scots as James VI from 24 July 1567. On 24 March 1603, he also became King of England and Ireland as James I when he inherited the English crown and thereby united the Crowns of the Kingdoms of Scotland and England (each country remained legally separate, with their own Parliaments, judiciary, coinage etc., though both ruled by James). James VI & I continued to hold both crowns until his death in 1625, but based himself in England (the larger of the two realms) from 1603.
Another prime example of English education, now it must be blatantly obvious why all of your royal family? are sent off to Scotland for THEIR education. : :) ;)
Gordy, next please!! 8)
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It must be wonderful to be a such a superior being, what part of Scotland is it that you live Gordy. Oh!!! You don't live in Scotland, can't be that good then that you had to jump ship, must be other benefits that you get in good Ol' England.
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I live in Scotland, Gordy went to England under a United Kingdom extradition and rebalance scheme.
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Someone had to get the short straw.
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Originally posted by Diverbaz 1
It must be wonderful to be a such a superior being, what part of Scotland is it that you live Gordy. Oh!!! You don't live in Scotland, can't be that good then that you had to jump ship, must be other benefits that you get in good Ol' England.
OH, Dearest Baz, It IS such a wonderful feeling, Nirvanaesque almost, I may not live in Bonny Scotland any more, but, I DO still have my "free pass", which entitles me to have immediate access through/over the border, and both Roman Walls. ;) Simples!! The "other benefits"? Ah yes, it is a tad warmer down here in lovely 'Ampsheer!!
Gordy,
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Cor blimey I only asked a genuine nice question!!
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Get married quietly, get daddy to pay and don't bother the rest of us with it
PS marriages of expedience rarely work.
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Originally posted by Lisax
Cor blimey I only asked a genuine nice question!!
To be honest, I thought it was a stupid question:-\
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.. be careful Gordon. This 'democracy' you live in reads every email and post you put on the internet.
OFF WITH THE CLOWN'S HEAD I SAY!!
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I have no time for the royal family, my family are important to me and should be protected but this does not cost 'us' the tax payer, if anything happens to my family they are irreplaceable unlike the royals where the line of succession proceeds, followed by more 'royal cows' to ensure the linage.
Yes Stoop this is a democracy, we can voice our opinions, unlike many other countries, Turkey being a prime example, whilst living there we had to watch our 'p's & Q's' we could not access certain programmes on the internet because of the silent dictatorship.
I am happy to be British, yet could survive without a royal family, the tourist would still come to the UK because of the history, how many tourist have seen the queen or her generic hangers on? the changing of the guard at 'Buck' Palace continues regardless who is 'at home', parliament, history and buildings up and down the country are there for the many many tourist who wish to visit.
As what would one say to them? "Beggar off and get a proper job with a P45 or use your own personal wealth to continue your support, and if you can't afford an extra body guard this month do some overtime!"
[:(!]
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Maybe they should just ask for all their land back and live off the income it generates. I'm sure they would more than willing to pay all their own costs if that were to happen.
As for the tourist argument I have to disagree. I believe they do generate much more interest than just the historic buildings and history of the country. I remember being in Fiji a few years back and we were astonished how much the locals thought of our Queen. Flying to England was top of the list for many of them - if they ever got the chance. 'To see The Queen'.
I'd rather pay the Royals than the freeloaders who sit on their backsides for all their life, never get a job and live off state handouts. At least the Royals get out there and promote the UK - as well as all the charity work that they do as well.
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Stoop I owe you a beer, Well said.
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Originally posted by stoop
I'd rather pay the Royals than the freeloaders
I thought they were the same. And how come a German family ended up owning great chunks of Britain? I thought the Normans were the thieves conquerers; turns out it was the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas.
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Would totally disagree with you, Loz. The Royal Family are our history. Would we have had a Cromwell if no Royal?.
The changing of the Guards at Buckingham Palace wouldn't continue if there wasn't a family. There wouldn't be a palace (unless you stuck a Bishop in) and no-one to protect! I suppose Cameron could move in[:(!]
I would agree get rid of the hangers-on but that is the same as saying get rid of second cousin Berties' aunt. Part of the family for good or bad.
From what I've read the family are digging into their own pockets for the wedding. The revenue generated (crappy mugs etc!) will benefit the Country and tourists will come.
I wish them both the best of luck and hope it is a lavish wedding.
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"Maybe they should just ask for all their land back"
Shouldn't that read
Maybe we should just ask for our land back.
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Originally posted by stoop
.. be careful Gordon. This 'democracy' you live in reads every email and post you put on the internet.
OFF WITH THE CLOWN'S HEAD I SAY!!
Ah, may be true, but at least I do have the right of freedom of speech where I am! A true democratic right, won by free men for free men!
We have had the benefit of this and many other human rights for quite some considerable time, despite news reports that would seem to state otherwise. Our law has not been decided in a rush and made by those living a privileged lifestyle. It has been built by the decisions made in Courts, with juries of our peers and the Court has always been a place of equality and fairness.
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Originally posted by peecee
Would totally disagree with you, Loz. The Royal Family are our history. Would we have had a Cromwell if no Royal?.
The changing of the Guards at Buckingham Palace wouldn't continue if there wasn't a family. There wouldn't be a palace (unless you stuck a Bishop in) and no-one to protect!
Cromwell, a great & very clever man, possibly the only person in our history who really had no alterior motive & a great, genuine love for his fellow man. Just a great pity thay he did not accept the crown in 1657, who knows, maybe our country would have continued to have British Royals, rather than German?
Buck House, now what a fantastic "Hostel for The Homeless" that could make! ;)
Gordy.
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So come on Mike. Explain why you see it as our land? Does that mean I own your land and property as well as my own? Sounds like comunism to me.
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Seems like you would accept pure British blood royalty Gordon but not if the family has German blood in it. So are you a royalist in principle then as long as they are from the correct breed?
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Originally posted by stoop
So come on Mike. Explain why you see it as our land? Does that mean I own your land and property as well as my own? Sounds like comunism to me.
That comment would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
learn british history and the answer will be self explanatory
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You may have some kind of strange logic in your question Stoop, but I just cannot see myself ever supporting a family, royal or not, who are not British! No matter how you or any one else attempts to disguise it, the fact still remains that the British royal? family are descended from various states of Germany. Anyway, when it all boils down, why are they there? What useful purpose does she serve? She has no REAL regal powers in the true sense, she cannot over-rule Parliament. Just an empty figurehead in my honest opinion. The phrase " Toom Tabard" springs to mind, actually, perhaps slightly out of context but--------?
. Thank God for what may be the beginnings of a proper, intellectual debate. Wind-ups over!! ;):D
Gordy.
By the way, the clown picture was never my idea, ask Toky, pic discovered by "He who shall be obeyed!!"
Iyi Bayramlar, Benim Arkadaslarim!! And, Lang may yer lum reek, wi' ither folks coal!!
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I for one would rather have a Queen who hasn't got a secret agenda to rule and interfere in the running of the World, who makes life financially easier for all his buddies and generally fills his own coffers along the way.
Choice between a Queen/King or a President, Royal every time. Do you seriously want a Bush or Obama as the head of our Country? God forbid[:(!]
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Britain has been a melting pot for years, who is truly British? We have been invaded so many times in the past and so many Monarchs have married foreign brides, Monarchs even ruled from France at one time, so I don't think anyone can say they have traced their ancestors and they are 100% British. Even Bonnie Prince Charlie was an effete little French guy who was idolised by a lot of the Scots and lets not forget that the Queen's Mother was a Scot.
I read in the news last week that by 2066 the majority of the British population will be black, so who will be truly British then?
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Cromwell was a dictator,unless you mean the other cromwell who served Henry the eight who was tasked with grabing the land etc of the monistries, and was beheaded at Henry request, as I think the other cromwell had his removered after he was buried.Check it out all you internet history experts. A little racism creeping in methinks.
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c1, your spelling is atrocious, go straight to the bottom of the class! :-\ :o :oOliver Cromwells body was dug up, and hanged, (which probably did result in his head coming off!!) Now, who in heavens name would ever dream up that tasty little morsel of disgusting behaviour??
Mind you, look at what a "civilised" English race did to Sir William Wallace, A TRUE hero in the eyes of all Scots. No racist slurs intended, pure history.
Gordy.
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Gordon, you really shouldn't criticize someone's spelling if you are going to write back to them with such poor punctuation.
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OOOOPS, I beg you pardon, Prof. :o
Gordy,
I will make sure to include apostrophes in the correct place in future.
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spelling maybe out but message is clear, and I thought that Wallace was betrayed by a Scot as well "The Bruce" oh how the scots do so love a hero.
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Originally posted by mike A
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Originally posted by stoop
So come on Mike. Explain why you see it as our land? Does that mean I own your land and property as well as my own? Sounds like comunism to me.
That comment would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
learn british history and the answer will be self explanatory
I think this might explain it for you Mike:
Although the ownership of some property can be traced back to Edward the Confessor, the estate as a whole essentially dates from 1066. After the Norman Conquest, all the land belonged to William "in right of The Crown" because he was King. Despite centuries of change in law and custom, the underlying ownership of The Crown still exists and there is always a presumption in favour of The Crown unless it can be proved that the land belongs to someone else.
The Sovereign's estates had always been used to raise revenue, and over time large areas were granted to nobles. The estate fluctuated in size and value but by 1760, when George III acceded to the throne, the asset had been reduced to a small area producing little income - revenue which George III needed to fulfil the Sovereign's fiscal responsibilities to the nation.
By that time taxes had become the prime source of revenue for the United Kingdom and Parliament administered the country, so an agreement was reached that the Crown Lands would be managed on behalf of the Government and the surplus revenue would go to the Treasury. In return the King would receive a fixed annual payment - today known as the Civil List. This agreement has, at the beginning of each reign, been repeated by every succeeding Sovereign.
In 1955 a Government Committee under the Chairmanship of Sir Malcolm Trustram Eve recommended that to avoid confusion between Government property and Crown land, the latter should be renamed The Crown Estate and should be managed by an independent board. These recommendations were implemented by the Crown Estate Acts of 1956 and 1961.
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"I think this might explain it for you Mike:
After the Norman Conquest, all the land belonged to William "in right of The Crown" because he was King"
certainly does stoop.
What beats me is why you cant see it.
8)
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Och, c1, you are getting your History mixed up wi' Hollywood hype. In the film "Braveheart we, or rather,you, are led to believe that Wallace was betrayed by Bruce, in fact, history asserts that he WAS indeed betrayed by one Jack Short, manservant of Sir James Menteith, Earl of Mar, & "taken" by Mar, just outside Glasgow, whilst asleep, & delivered to London,for a price & the promise of more lands & authority.
There is no historical evidence to prove that Bruce & Wallace ever actually met as allies, as Bruce had, like many noblemen in those turbulent times, a penchant for changing sides as & when he thought it worthwhile, both financially, & as an advancement toward his own rule. Bruce actually claimed to be of Norman descent when things got a bit "dodgy" for him, indeed his given birth name was Robert de Bruys, traced to his Paternal Scoto-Norman ancestors. ;)
Gordy.