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General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Jacqui Harvey on December 08, 2010, 13:21:12 PM
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My Daughter heard from her friend in southern England yesteday who has a small child at Nursery School. They had a warning that the song Ba Ba black sheep will not be allowed. The children are now singing Ba Ba Pink Sheep have you any spots!!!!
I don't understand this as there are black sheep and white sheep so I cannot see the problem. Seems a shame to change an old nursery rhyme for P.C. reasons:([?]
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Jacqui, there isn't a problem other than in some PC idiots misguided imagination[:(!]
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Grrrrr, this sort of thing makes me so Angry!!!!
This and pathetic rules like the one introduced into some schools that says the children may not eat with their hands at lunch - now if it was a matter of good manners then OK (although manners should be taught at home)but apparently this is to prevent them getting nasty germs.....I take it the kids are also not allowed fruit, crisps, loose sweets etc that all require to be touched to consume.
Petty and pathetic and downright infuriating.
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Infuriating yes that these people not only exist, but that they achieve positions of power where their misguided views can be acted upon. The silver lining is that with a small amount of investigation, many of these stories tend to be media fantasy.
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But remember that schools can't ban you from filming or taking photographs of your own children under the Data Protection Act
[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492364/Data-Protection-Act-DOESNT-ban-parents-filming-school-play.html
Also, if you want to stir things up a bit, ask any organisation that has CCTV installed that records images of the general public, if they have a licence issued by the ICO. If they don't, they can be reported and, if found guilty, heavily fined.
http://www.ico.gov.uk/
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The PC brigade have a lot to answer for and have had this nursery rhyme changed a good while now,I remeber when my girls were at school my youngest is now 34 they were made to sing Baa Baa white sheep.Noddy can no longer have his golliwogs in his stories,I think thew world is going slightly mad and has been for a long time Politcally Correct Baa humbug !!!!!!!!!!
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The banning of Christmas in favour of "Winter festivals" is quite ridiculous, but I must say I think you do have to accept that things have moved on - golliwogs on marmalade jars and in Noddy books are probably best left in the past in my view.
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Just heard from the girl that does my nails that her sister's children at nursery here in Scotland cannot sing Ba Ba Black sheep anymore, they had a letter home about it a while ago. It has to be pink sheep, but they are allowed say wool!!!
Also she was saying that the Nativity Play is ticket only so the nursery can vet who is going to come and only then they will allow cameras.
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yes, my daughter (17)was taught the pc version.
Last week I was having a conversation with her and her friend about seeing a Golly on ebay and the fact that it bought back childhood memories of my beautiful golly with stripy trousers. Both of them looked at me blankly - neither of them knew what a golly was. How sad is that ?! i remember fighting over who could cut the lables off the robinson jam the quickest in order to send off for the latest golly collectible (I still have the badges some where). So sad.
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couldnt agree more-its ridiculous
Even my local petrol station has got in on the act displaying "No smoking or any naked flames in the forecourt"- Political correctness gone mad.
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Originally posted by pookie
yes, my daughter (17)was taught the pc version.
Last week I was having a conversation with her and her friend about seeing a Golly on ebay and the fact that it bought back childhood memories of my beautiful golly with stripy trousers. Both of them looked at me blankly - neither of them knew what a golly was. How sad is that ?! i remember fighting over who could cut the lables off the robinson jam the quickest in order to send off for the latest golly collectible (I still have the badges some where). So sad.
There are often old Gollies at Antique Fairs and Shops. I have had a few myself through house clearances, and they always sell very quickly. However, they are making a comeback I have seen them in local shops and there is a Scottish website that sells them
http://www.gollydollies.co.uk/?gclid=CODo7qen36UCFQ4f4QodhmC40Q
;)
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I am not convinced that this story has anything to do with PC - for good or bad. There seems to be a book for little ones as a teaching aid that helps them learn by teaching them first the rhyme Baa Baa Black Sheep and then the new rhyme Baa Baa Pink Sheep which follows the same rhythmical pattern as the original. It seems be an aid to learn about rhymings and rhythyms and nothing about oversensitivity to perceived potential racism. The sheep turns pink because its skin is exposed after it has been sheared of all its black wool - and in the picture it looks a bit cold.
Not so much fun a story as for all those "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" folks to get offended about - sorry about that.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a138/ColwynJones/PinkSheep.jpg)
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Originally posted by Scunner
The banning of Christmas in favour of "Winter festivals" is quite ridiculous, but I must say I think you do have to accept that things have moved on - golliwogs on marmalade jars and in Noddy books are probably best left in the past in my view.
But Scunner, surely it is only offensive if that is your intention. How many youngsters these days would be aware of the suggested relationship? it is just a doll made of black material with wool for hair - could I not also be offended by a Russian doll with its rosy cheeks and robust/rotund shape and many smaller dolls inside - that could be seen as suggesting white people are fat and have loads of kids!
(A bit of a stretch but you know what I mean..)
I have some very dear friends who are of different nationalities and the nature of our banter and relationship means we call each other names that could have us arrested - but if the person it is directed at is not offended then they don't need some p.c. clown telling them they should be.
If I (and many like me) don't associate a Golliwog with anything other than a jam jar then why should it be hidden away/forgotten?
It could indeed conjure up memories of a dark past that is definitely not something to be proud of but then so could many other things like chains, braided hair and dare I say it....slave bangles.
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Sorry Colwyn, my friend's sister has been told that the word Black is not allowed in the nursery, in fact, they are not allowed to say Blackboard anymore, it has to be Chalkboard.
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Originally posted by Jacqui Harvey
Sorry Colwyn, my friend's sister has been told that the word Black is not allowed in the nursery, in fact, they are not allowed to say Blackboard anymore, it has to be Chalkboard.
I'd like to see that written in down in white and white.
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What is the name of the nursery?
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Will ask my nail girl next time she comes up.. Must be in Peterhead as that's where her sister lives.
The other place where my daughter's friend lives is in Luton.
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how ridiculous!! next my hometown will be renamed to Murkypool!! :o
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Just read one of my granddaughter's books and Snow "White" is still in there - so how come that's OK then?
Beauty and the Beast is now "Belle" and the Beast - is that in case all the "not very pretty" people get offended ?????
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In my friend's daughters school, they have baa baa rainbow sheep.