Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Nick on January 10, 2011, 13:04:06 PM
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I am not sure whether this sort of posting is permitted here but I am sure the mods will remove it if it is not considered appropriate.
My apologies in advance if this is the case
I wanted to bring your attention to the proposal to build a 'mega dairy' in Lincolnshire. A planning application has been made and it is due to be considered soon.
For those in the UK at the time the BBC's Countryfile programme did a peice on this shortly before Christmas.
So what is wrong with the proposal? Well personally I don't like the idea that cattle will be locked up inside huge barns all year round. We already do this to other animals and bird such as pigs and chickens, this will be just as bad, if not worse.
I am a consumer of dairy products but I would rather not have them produced in such circumstances.
Please see the link below and if you feel likewise you might consider signing the petition. Please note that the petition is due to be presnted TOMORROW, 11 January.
http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/factoryfarm
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Watched Countryfile about this place and all the places in America like it. Horrific, :o if this is progress what is the future world going to be like? I would be glad to sign your petition. :)
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I saw this on Care 2 and signed the other day, shocking.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/158/433/475/?z00m=19929301
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I didn't see the programme but agree 100% and have signed the petition too.
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So what is your problem with all the bleeding hearts. Eggs are created with thousands of chickens in similar circumstances. They are also fed with enormous protein amounts to give you corn fed fattened up ones at Christmas. Young steers are fed with carrots and other crap to fatten them up so you get steak as quick as possible. Pigs have been fed and reared like this for years. So if you dont like it go and figure out how to reduce the population or learn to start eating grass yourself.
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Because something happens, doesn't automatically make it right or acceptable. Because chickens are imprisoned in this way is no reason to accept that we can adopt the method on to cows, or any other creature. If you think that way, we should chain lines and lines of children to millstones to revolve them and save a fortune on electricity.
Life should be about positive progress, not accepting negativity based on the fact that lesser negativity already exists.
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Progress in life particularly in the food chain is generally created by scientists. However, I am sure that in certain parts of the world a child from the age of 10 or more who is required to carry a 10 litre pot of water on his head would be more than happy to see a donkey do it. Is that not progress? Progress in life is purely a perception!! Depending on where we are in life at that point in time. What is negativity??? You spent a few years in Turkey and I suspect achieved nothing except a large amount of negativity. Bostans coffee rules!!!!!!! have you seen another negative comment other than yours?? I submit........
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Personal opinions aren't gauged on how many people post to agree with you John! I spent more than a few years in Turkey John, and left with nothing but positivity for the future. I am sure if I let my life be ruled by the positivity/negativity of the price of an Efes being more than 3.5 lira like yourself, I would have brought much negativity back to the UK with me. As things turned out, I learned only positive lessons and have two beautifully mannered, compassionate children, and for those things plus many others, I thank Turkey for the positive things that living there blessed us with.
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I've got a terrible suspicion that I need to bed down for the long haul here:(
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I wont say it is wrong or right but I do think we are all guilty in some way of bringing this about we all want something cheaper at the supermarket. we are also all happy to eat halal meat in turkey should we also sign a petition to only eat meat that is humanely slaughtered
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As people who kept healthy happy chickens that laid lovely eggs. We decided to answer an advert in the local paper to buy ex-battery hens. I will never forget that day. We went to this place and the guy opened a huge barn door and the smell that hit us was overpowering. Then when are eyes became accustom to the dim light we saw hundreds of birds packed in dirty tiny cages . The guy gave us the first six and we put them in boxes and left. We were both very quiet coming home.
When we got back we looked at these poor birds some with toes missing all with hardly any feathers pale and sickly looking. We put them in the hen house with the other birds and they just sat on the floor, they did not know how to move around or how to fly up and perch. They stayed in this traumatised state for about a week and then gradually they started to move around and go outside, the hen house where they were no fences they had an three acre field and beyond. After a few months they were integrated with the rest of the chickens, they put on weight grew feathers and started to enjoy pecking around. They laid lovely eggs that tasted far better than any battery egg ever would, and they really liked the company of Murphy our rampant cockerel.
I like to think in our small way we gave them a happy retirement.
The memory of the Battery Farm will always stay with me, and I will never ever buy battery eggs. I don't think any animal should be subjected to being kept in these unnatural conditions.
Some people can be flipant about the way animals are kept but when you see it up close it's life changing.
We all have choices in life, we don't have to accept animal cruelty because we think it's inevitable.
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Jacqui, I remember seeing a tv documentary years back on battery farming and from that day to this I've bought free range eggs. Not a big deal but my own little bit that makes me feel better.
I'm no activist but all life is precious and the thought of hundreds of cows couped up in barns for our table makes me ill.
Captain John, hopefully I'll bump into you on one of my visits to Calis. I'd like to see for myself if you talk as much rubbish as you write!
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Wonder no more...the answer is YES he does. Met him just once when he was sitting alone in a crowded cafe so I asked if he would like to join our table of about ten people mixed race and ages. He politely declined informing me he was a resident here and was happy with his own company.Fair enough comment but then he went on to tell me about the forum and how it was only used for Scunner to boost his own ego and also that Scunner was the most hated person in Calis and had absolutely no friends whatsoever.How deluded was that !!!!Sad sad man. Luckily never met him again.
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Woops forgot to answer to the original subject. I too visited a chicken "farm" as my husband at the time was interesed in buying it. To say it was horrific is putting it mildly as they were living in such terrible conditions unable to move and a moving conveyer belt system providing the food.Needless to say we didnt purchase the farm and I try to buy free range eggs whenever possible. The thought that cattle can be kept in enclosed pens permanently is appalling and as regards to progress.....we really dont have to eat meat in order to stay healthy
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Keith there must be easier ways to get your ego boosted than running a forum full of devotees and long term friends.
Whats wrong with you?
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Originally posted by hubblebubbles
then he went on to tell me about the forum and how it was only used for Scunner to boost his own ego and also that Scunner was the most hated person in Calis and had absolutely no friends whatsoever.
I always marvel at the very fact that during my 5 years in Calis that the number one topic of conversation in town was...me, and now two years since we left the number one topic of conversation in a wee town 2000 miles from here is...me! One of my friends from Fethiye has remained unknown and unrecognisable to nearly every CBF member and loves to message me whenever he is sitting anonymously in a bar listening to a group slagging me off. In nearly all cases it is people who I have never even met!
My ego is the favoured topic of conversation for dozens of expats like captainjon, always has been and always will be. As for having no friends, John was always super friendly when I met him, especially when he brought his laptop to me to be fixed for free. Back stabber extrordinaire. He is a completely perfect example of an expat knobhead, glad I left.
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Originally posted by kayakebab
Keith there must be easier ways to get your ego boosted than running a forum full of devotees and long term friends.
Whats wrong with you?
I'm an idiot.
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Originally posted by hubblebubbles
Wonder no more...the answer is YES he does. Met him just once when he was sitting alone in a crowded cafe so I asked if he would like to join our table of about ten people mixed race and ages. He politely declined informing me he was a resident here and was happy with his own company.Fair enough comment but then he went on to tell me about the forum and how it was only used for Scunner to boost his own ego and also that Scunner was the most hated person in Calis and had absolutely no friends whatsoever.How deluded was that !!!!Sad sad man. Luckily never met him again.
Come on, give the poor guy a break, he is very loyal to one particular restaurant, in fact, I am sure he joined the Forum especially to praise the place at every opportunity: :)... Hope they are buying meat from the large battery farms he approves of ;)
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Maybe people should "give him a break". Maybe members on here shouldn't slag him off. Maybe if he stopped slagging everyone and everything off that could kick start the process. Unlikely though.
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I truly wasn't slagging him off as don't know him well enough to do that but was repeating a genuine conversation to prove the man really does talk a load of twaddle but hey....keeps him happy.Bet you need more than all your fingers and toes to count all your many friends Keith.Wonder how many he can count ???
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Originally posted by hubblebubbles
I truly wasn't slagging him off as don't know him well enough to do that but was repeating a genuine conversation to prove the man really does talk a load of twaddle but hey....keeps him happy.Bet you need more than all your fingers and toes to count all your many friends Keith.Wonder how many he can count ???
Two in a Restaurant on the seafront:P
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Well said Jacqui.