Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Expat & Property Owners Q and A Forum => Topic started by: Karennina on January 12, 2011, 19:53:22 PM
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Can anyone help please with this situation we have found ourselves in, basically we have no communal electricity at present on our complex. We have been informed by our management company that someone who holds a Tapu has to have the communal electricity bill in that person's name we are reluctant to do it as dont want to end up liable for a whole complex's leci particularly a summer bill! Has anyone heard of this happening and if so is there another way round this. Thanks as always for any help. 8)
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None of the owners on Violet have the complex electric in their names Karen, how can they expect one person to be liable? Your right to be careful.
Ours is in our property management company name although I'm sure other complexes have different ways of dealing with it
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Thanx Anne that is the bit I a not getting,why it can not be in the property management companies name they are saying it can not be, at present there is no communal leci it has been cut off and if it does not get sorted and none of us volunteer we will have no pool etc for this summer!
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Karen I should've made it a bit clearer in my post, sorry.
Our complex is not run by one of the main management companies in Calis or Fethyie but someone who worked for Odek our builder. He then decided to start up on his own took over the running of three Odek complexes.
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that is fine because I still think what you said made sense, I have never heard of this before thanks again Anne
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here on our complex we were on builders electric, which was more expensive. (for some on the complex,they had been paying for more then 6yrs)each owner paid the builder their leccy and he then paid or sometimes paid our bills
after loads of complaints and arguements with the builder and the leccie suppliers the builder changed everyone to their own electric meters now no leccie cuts, because the bills are being paid straight to the office
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So you all pay a share of the electric for the complex lighting, pool pump etc?
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Do the properties on your complex have individual electricity meters? Until last summer, we had the same situation as Puma describes (builders supply). Since then all the owners have been to Aydem to register individually: so we all pay for our own supply now. Clearly not the same option if you don't have individual meters but if not,how did you know how much to pay before? Our annual maintenance charge covers the communal costs, including communal lighting, pool etc. Does this help?
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The first question is, why is this a problem now and it wasn't in previous years? Have you changed to a new management company?
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On our Site we now have individual meters and we each pay our own electric bills. There is a separate meter for the communal electricity, lighting & swimming pool, and the bill is given to our elected manager for payment out of the agreed monthly management charges that we pay to him.
Perhaps your problem is that you have a management company who does not have a good credit rating with the electricity company.
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We have been with the management company for two years we have all got our indivual leci meters for our apartments in our own names, but the communal leci has been cut off and can not be restored until one of us owners with a Tapu agree to have the communal bill in that name, the management company say it can not be in their name as they dont own the complex! I am really confused and not sure why it has happened this year and not before. no one is prepared to do it so looks like we will have no pool and no perimeter lighting unless we can find a way round it.[?]:(
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Our management company doesn't own the complex and there is no problem. It's collected via our fees twice yearly.
Do you all us the same company?
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Our management company doesn't own the complex
Surely all complexes are owned by the property owners for whom the Management companies work.
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one thing i never understand is why communal owners dont each agree on a form of solar lighting and each bring some out or get them from the lighting centre. Maybe solar pumps are possible?
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Originally posted by Chinook
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Our management company doesn't own the complex
Surely all complexes are owned by the property owners for whom the Management companies work.
Of course:D but the reasons for Karrenina's PMC not taking responsibilty for the complex electric is that they don't own the complex. I was merely pointing out that ours doesn't either and there is no problem with either them nor do Tedas
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Anne . Yes I appreciated what you said with your helpful reply but with the number of people who who make complaints about their Management Companies I get the feeling that many do not appreciate the ownership point and that the management company work for them within a remit set by the owners at their AGM.In this instance like you I am puzzled by the companies inability to manage electric payments.Has anyone checked with the Electric Company to see what their view is ?
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Not all complexes have an AGM or committee though so I'm assuming that perhaps if they're not all using the same management company within their complex this is where the problems are arising.
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Not all complexes have an AGM or committee though
Wonder why as I thought it was law for all for all complexes except the very smallest ( less than 12?)to have the right to set up a management committee for common parts and thus stop being imposed upon by Management Companies.
http://www.fethiyetimes.com/expat-zone/property/5572-the-condominium-law-time-to-get-organised.html
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perhaps I shoud rephrase that.
An 'active' committee.
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The ongoing workings of a complex and it's management is something for a solicitor to advise on I would say - but obviously the problem again is that no-one wants to do that and be left with the bill for the advice when nobody else thinks they should pay their share. I can only suggest you find out how other management companies deal with communal electricity bills and if their answer is easily, consider moving to one of them. You can't have a working complex (especially in season) without communal electricity and if that happens it will be a disaster for all owners there, so they need to take responsibility now.
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I have had an email today saying it is the electric company that are saying it has to be someone on the complex that has a Tapu, so it stems from the electric company apparantly! It is defo cut off as we were out for five days recently and there is no communal electricity.
I am with Anne on this one and the other members that have said their management companies dont own their complexes and their bills get paid ok! Dont know what to do really I dont want to volunteer for it and something goes wrong and I am left with a huge bill for the whole complex!
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Hi Karen , dave/ali from b6, this is a real concern for us all on valetta, i think the reason the elecric company are being awkward is they are worried their bills are going to be paid , just a thought, why don t we analize the communal electricity bill for the last year and propose to pay
the same amount up front may be with a 10% increase as a sweetener, i for one wouldn't mind paying up front if it solved the problem, can t see why Tedas would turn that down !!sure its something that our management company could easily organize between all the owners.
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It is quite possible that the original developer (and therefore initial management company) didn't pay their electricity bill and the supplier is keen not to get bitten twice.
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I agrea Scunner, thats why i'm suggesting we propose to pay up front, i personally wouldn't mind paying double up front, so long as any surplus was carried forward onto next years account and we
had no problems with our electricity supply. all owners would have to agrea tho' obviously !!