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General Topics => Football => Topic started by: desmartinson on March 09, 2011, 06:46:21 AM
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unluky arsenal, hard enough to beat the best team in the world with 11 players,have just read reports there was 1 second between the whistle and van persie,s shot,nou camp nosier than the kop when they get going, but barcelona definately the best team on the night, so not sure if he,d stayed on would have made a difference.:(
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The speed and accuracy with which Barcelona move the ball is breathtaking, the movement and work rate off the ball is a joy to watch.
The second booking was ridiculous, he had already shaped to take the shot when the whistle went.
As you say Des I fear the result may well have been the same.
Mark
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des the cop arnt nosey
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did van persie here the whistle?
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I don't think it really matters if he did or not - kicking the ball away was (as I remember) bookable due to doing it as an act of petulance or possibly intentional time wasting. Making it an offence just because someone made contact just the wrong side of the whistle is a ridiculous development in the interpretation.
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Best team won on the night, but feel really sorry for Arsenal, even the commentators were saying with the noise of 98,000 people it would have been difficult for RVP to hear the whistle. I suppose now Wenger and RVP will be punished for their after match remarks about the ref. Incidentally, what on earth was Wenger and the Arsenal staff wearing? They looked like rejects from Oasis.
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Not sure if he actually heard the whistle,but as you say, doubt it would have made a difference on the result.Messi is good to watch though.
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Originally posted by davybill
des the cop arnt nosey
sorry Davy, should have been noisier but my spelling arnt that guud. ;)
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No excuses beaten by a better team. The game highlighted some of weaknesses of Wegner. For example, using players - even good players like RVP and Cesc - when they are clearly not fit to play, Diaby is not a holding midfielder, and if you want a decent centre half you have got to be prepared to spend more than half a crown!! Still Jack Wilshire did shine through, which only goes to show that not all Wenger does is wrong.
So now all we can do is the english double, and joy of joy the only thing between us and the double is ManU. Best of all I have a ticket for Saturday's cup match at Old Trafford, so look out for me on MoTD.:D
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that makes 2 of us des,haha.
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What's the point of holding a football match in a stadium where the players can't hear the whistle. Play it behind closed doors the next time ;)
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Originally posted by desmartinson
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Originally posted by davybill
des the cop arnt nosey
sorry Davy, should have been noisier but my spelling arnt that guud. ;)
You were just unluky Des.
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We were outplayed in the first leg and was 1-0 down at half time.....
We won 2-1.
We were outplayed in the first half in this game and was 1-0 down at half time..
We scored within 10mins of the start of the second half. 1-1... RVP gets sent off...
We go to pieces and loose 3-1... Yet we are told we were outplayed... 11 against 10.
And not one foul from a Barca player got a booking, dispite Hands being pushed in RVP face.
So now all the pundits say, Arsenal would have been beaten anyway..
The same one's who said the same things at half time in both games.
Yes.... outplayed.
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I tend to agree Barry. Nobody knows what would have happened had RVP not got sent off.
Yes Barca were better but the best teams don't always win.
One more goal would have been enough even at the death.
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I didn't see the game barry, so you may rightly question my view, but the stats show that Arsenal did not have one attempt on target whereas Barca had many. That would suggest that Barca were well worth their win.
That having been said, it must be a massive disappointment to the club and it's fans because there is no doubt that Arsenal would have graced the next round.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3457036/Arsenal-v-Barcelona-stats-are-grim-reading-for-Arsene-Wenger.html
you did well at the dribbling:D
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There are dammed lie's and statistic's .....
Old but true...
No shots on target but we scored.
First game first half... same statistic's...
But We won.
Anyway.....over for now.
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Barry ,you have to put a lot of blame on your manager 1.Why play two players who he said were not 100% RVP and Fabregas.2 They played very negative football,3.why the hell were they playing Barca in the first place?they should have won their group easily but for the arrogance of Wenger playing weakened teams against Shakhtar and Braga ,dropping points allowing Shakhtar to win the group and go on to destroy a crap Roma team.
WENGER ,NEVER WRONG ,NEVER SEES AN aRSENAL PLAYER DOING WRONG REFS ALWAYS WRONG .Never a bad foul by his players but every bad tackle on his team is assault.
Barry i was rooting for them as i always do in Europe but they were outplayed.
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Cos Arsenal without RVP and Fab become Watford
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Does the question beg that if RVP were still on the field of play, would he have bagged the chance Bendtner missed at the end?
Stoop is correct, the best teams do not always win and Barca could have had a thousand chances but if they don't hit the back of the net and your one chance does then they lose.
Arsenal will still be the nearly team again this season mainly due to the fact that we need to buy quality in the January window. This has been the case for a few seasons, Wenger is right not to buy in the summer but he always misses his opportunity in January because he is stuck in his ways and belief that the young boys will one day prove everyone wrong. The young players do fine but they also need a couple of proven experienced players to nuture them through winning a cometition, time to wise up Arsene.
John Terry, David Beckham, & William Gallas, any one of those could install belief and take charge which would prove good for the gunners.
Only my opinion ;)
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I agree with you Fletch, Arsenal was always built on a solid defence,boring boring Arsenal and all that, but you won things!
Arsene inherited a great defence that has now diminished and has never been replaced.
He does need to wise up, you start at the back. ;)
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Same old Arsene, always moaning.Totally outplayed as the stats proved. I'll say again, when you're so vain that you wear 52 on your shirt because you get paid 52 grand a week, its no good talking the talk if you can't walk the walk. Bendtner could have stolen it for the Gunners, but I really don't beleive that RVP staying on the the pitch would have mades a blind bit of differnce. Barca just stepped up a gear at will. No real leadership in the side & you've got to feel for the lad Wilshire, never gives up & his effort & workrate puts some of the Gunners so-called stars to shame & he's only 19 with bearly any experience.
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This is mystic meg football punditry....
You can only guess what would have happened...
But fact.... Both games we were down at half time.
Fact..both games we scored in the second half.
Nobody can know what would have happened...
Fact... We lost.... end of.
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yeh but we wouldn't if Robin was still on the pitch! ;)
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i think they needed robin and batman to win that one fletch,lol.