Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: sandgrounder on April 27, 2011, 09:05:48 AM
-
As far as I can see there is no difference between the good fakes and the real deal. Why are females so hooked on spending hundreds of pounds on designer gear when they are the only ones who know how much they paid for them?
If I had a spare £400 I would rather go to a top London restaurant and experience fine dining rather than waste the money on shoes. You can't fake good food:D
-
You also don't have to spend £400 to get good food either :)
As for fakes - quite often they are produced in seedy factories by children/adults who are forced into this type labour to survive. Maybe earning less in a week than most of us earn and hour. They are also quite often a way for drug cartels to launder their dirty money.
Oh - and they are mostly rubbish anyway.
Not a fan of fakes I guess :)
-
I was generally talking about Turkish fakes Stoop ;) Most denim is produced in Turkey so the fakes are as good as the real thing ;)
-
The key to this questions is "As far as you can see". Fakes are second best, I will admit there are some good ones, particularly bags, but, I have found the really good ones in Turkey are just as much the real ones I have bought in sales in the U.K. and in the States at Outlet Villages. I was told fake Jimmy Choos and Chloe bags were £400.00 in a Maya, Fethiye. When I showed the guy my real Chloe bag, he told me it was a fake. I explained I bought it in the Chloe Shop in N.Y. and he said they sell fakes too!!!
However, the vast majority of the fakes particularly sold in the Markets are very obvious fakes and it's so easy to tell the difference, they are badly made. If you pay £10.00 for a fake that is what it will look like.
Last weekend on the Outnet, a site advertised on this Forum at the top of the page. Marc Jacobs bags were as low as £60.00 each, this is for real leather designer bags that are usually around £365.00 each. So if you shop carefully you can get a designer bag at a really good price.
The last and most important thing is I know I have a real designer bag or pair of shoes and if I look after them the resale value will be as good and sometimes, in the case of bags even better than the bought price, so designer pieces can be investments.
Incidentally, you don't have to spend £400 on a fine dining meal, or go to London. We went to a Gourmet Night at an Hotel last weekend the Chef had won the Grampian Chef of the year award. We had seven courses, all explained to us by the Chef and each course was accompanied by wine each wine was explained to us by the Wine expert who selected them. The meal also included Champagne Cocktails to start with canapés and petite four and coffee to finish. Cost was £75.00 each. We also stayed the night (normally £150 per room) for £50.00. So half the price of your meal in London and no taxi home.
-
I have just finished reading a Barbara Nadel novel "Death by Design" (2010). It deals with Turkish policeman Inspector Cetin Ikmen investigating fake manufacture in Istanbul and London. It very much shares Stoop's view - and worse - of thr crimanal activity involved.
-
Maybe the denim is good quality and made in Turkey but much of the other fake stuff is of Chinese origin. The cheeky devils even advertise on line :
http://www.offergoods.org/FreeShipping/5-30540/designer-bags-website-from-turkey.aspx
-
Should I see anyone with a designer item I always automatically think they have been on holiday to Turkey! : :) ;):D
-
quote:
Originally posted by loz
Should I see anyone with a designer item I always automatically think they have been on holiday to Turkey! : :) ;):D
Me too, that's even if I noticed they had designer gear in the first place :o
-
quote:
Originally posted by Liz 101
quote:
Originally posted by loz
Should I see anyone with a designer item I always automatically think they have been on holiday to Turkey! : :) ;):D
Me too, that's even if I noticed they had designer gear in the first place :o
Me too girls, whenever I see Victoria Beckham, Kate Moss, Kelly Brook, Catherine Zeta Jones etc., and they are carrying a really lovely handbag or wearing fabulous shoes I always think "They must have been on holiday in Turkey". :P: :)
-
at calis market you can get genuine fakes,[as cheap as chips] lol]
-
The bags in Maya are imho the best ones around! However they have outpriced themselves now and I dont want to pay those prices for a fake! I agree with Loz re spotting people who potentially have returned from Turkey- rightly or wrongly theyre being labelled. Its a shame that the market has become saturated with fakes and that the designers brands are being diluted- hence the hoo ha! I've got a couple of Maya purchases from over the years however I have kept them until my tan has faded and the summer hols are but a warm memory before airing them in public. As for Russ' original point if I had a spare £400 it would be neither food nor shoes I'd be spending on but a couple of flights to somewhere warm!
-
We went from one end to the other, from living in UK stocking up with fake branded T shirts when on holiday, to living in Turkey and stocking up on T shirts on our returns to the UK. The change caused by two distinct factors - the quality of fake clothing in Turkey falling off a cliff, and prices in the UK heading downwards (especially for kids with the likes of Matalan, Tesco & Asda).
I gave up buying genuine branded stuff when I visited the UK - no-one back in Turkey would even begin to believe they weren't fakes from the Sunday market :D
-
If you buy an original there is often an after sales service provided with the goods. Say if you buy an expensive handbag at Harrods they will often reline it or repair a damaged shoulder strap for free.
My daughter has four sons and she finds buying good quality clothing is worth the investment as something like a t-shirt will be passed on and can withstand the constant washing.
I personally am bored stiff with designer logos and rebel by carting my stuff about in anything that comes to hand. I am supporting my local library at the moment and have one of their bags which they are selling to support them. :)
-
I have never been able to understand why people pay exorbitant prices for stuff just because it is classified as "designer". By all means pay for quality but don't pay over the odds because of a label. In my opinion, at best that's just plain daft and at worse, well let's leave it at that
I hope Jacqui Harvey will permit me to use one of here recent posts to illustrates my point. Jacqui posted about handbags which retailed at around £ 9,000.00.
Now I find it hard, if not impossible, to believe that the material and labour costs (even allowing for hand craftsmanship) would total a fraction of that price tag. So why on earth anyone in their right mind would wish line the pockets of the designer/maker by paying even more than their already inflated profit margins, is quite beyond me.
Perhaps Jacqui is correct when she says the most important thing is that the owner knows that they have the real thing. But I'm afraid I just don't get it.
Jacqui, I have to tell you that I'm not at all sure about the idea of wearing someone else's shoes.
And one final point.
If I saw a beautiful woman walking down the street with a lovely handbag and/or a fabulous pair of shoes, there are a number of things I would want to know were real long before I even starting worrying about the authenticity of either the bag or the shoes.
-
quote:
Originally posted by Highlander
I have never been able to understand why people pay exorbitant prices for stuff just because it is classified as "designer". By all means pay for quality but don't pay over the odds because of a label. In my opinion, at best that's just plain daft and at worse, well let's leave it at that
I hope Jacqui Harvey will permit me to use one of here recent posts to illustrates my point. Jacqui posted about handbags which retailed at around £ 9,000.00.
Now I find it hard, if not impossible, to believe that the material and labour costs (even allowing for hand craftsmanship) would total a fraction of that price tag. So why on earth anyone in their right mind would wish line the pockets of the designer/maker by paying even more than their already inflated profit margins, is quite beyond me.
Perhaps Jacqui is correct when she says the most important thing is that the owner knows that they have the real thing. But I'm afraid I just don't get it.
Jacqui, I have to tell you that I'm not at all sure about the idea of wearing someone else's shoes.
And one final point.
If I saw a beautiful woman walking down the street with a lovely handbag and/or a fabulous pair of shoes, there are a number of things I would want to know were real long before I even starting worrying about the authenticity of either the bag or the shoes.
John you may not want to wear second hand shoes, but there is a huge worldwide market for all designer items including shoes. The internet is awash with websites selling such things. A pair of second hand lightly worn designer shoes will make big money. If the design has sold out they can double their bought price. Kerry Taylor Auctions is one of the most successful and she only sells second hand designer goods. Kerry Taylor is now a very rich woman. Take a look at the second hand designer shoes on Ebay.
I know, if I want to sell any of my shoes I will have a lot of people wanting to buy them. ;)
Also, I might add, I don't give a damn what any man is looking at when he passes me in the street. I dress to please myself.: :):P:D[^]
-
"It's life Jacqui, but not as I know it." :)
"It's worse than that Jim - there's people paying hiked up prices twice" :).
Perhaps I should have put a ;) at the end of my last paragraph. :)
-
With the economic situation in Britain I am trying to shop in any small way I can which will benefit the community I am living in and yet give me what I want. I buy from local farmers if possible and buy locally produced products if they are what I want. So much money is being poured into huge businesses and foreign companies.
I wonder who makes the money out of designer goods. Is it Britain?
-
quote:
Your Italian designer heels may still cost £800 back in the UK but they were probably made by a gang of Chinese immigrants working 12-hour days for just three euros an hour (£2.15) - barely half the minimum wage.
Taken from a dated article but still valid today. SHAME ON YOU DESIGNER MUGGERS! (sorry shoppers)
Full Mirror Article HERE (http://"http://www.mirror.co.uk/sunday-mirror/2007/12/02/designer-labels-sweatshop-scandal-98487-20191613/")
-
What about the designer shops that have been found to be selling fakes,people think they are getting the real thing if they pay the designer price,and have been ripped off big time,
Some people look like mutton dressed as lamb in designer gear but think they look the part because they have payed so much, and others can throw a primarmi dress on and look lovely, I always think if you are comfortable you probably look okay, personally I could not wear a thong and have my aunty anus strangled at any price, and before you ask, no, I dont wear belly warmers either.:P:P
-
Primark have had a really bad press for about 5 years now for using sweatshops in India and paying their employees 60p per day. Stands to reason this is why they can afford to sell their stuff so cheaply.
-
I doubt that £2-15 an hour in Italy is relatively more than 60p a day in India...
-
Originally posted by laffa
I could not wear a thong and have my aunty anus strangled at any price[/quote}
Nor me ;)
-
The present Mrs H has come up with a brillant name for the new big "designer" range. She reckons it should be called "Imitation".
That's my girl :)
-
So Jacqui and how many of these so called designer brands/shops have also been found to be using sweatshops to produce their highly overrated examples of vanity????:D :o:D
-
Virtually all of them if the truth be known.
-
Anyway, 60p a day must beat not working for 60p a day or nobody would do it?
-
and GAP were charged with the same thing, though not designer, still a hike up in price from most stores.
and just to add a quote from Shakespeare, "manners maketh man", which I translate to, its nice to be nice. ;)
-
When I bought shirts in Turkey I never referred to them as fakes, I called them turkish originals.
-
We have some quite exclusive shops in the town here thaseem to be the places to buy your designer gear from.
On looking through some of the clothes recently I found a label that said "Made In Turkey"for the price they were charging am sure it couldn't be a fake.
R
-
Can not even think of buying a pair of second hand shoes after someone has had their sweaty feet in them, ugh what a thought.
-
I could not wear a thong and have my aunty anus strangled at any price, and before you ask, no, I dont wear belly warmers either.:P[:p
:D :D I'm sure Kenny was wearing a G string at the Surf Cafe
or was it a pea string :D:D:D
-
:)It was 2 peas in a pod Geoff, ;)