Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Scunner on May 27, 2011, 17:19:00 PM
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This might be obvious but I thought I'd ask as it seems very strange. We are paying for the girl's school photos and you have to fill in one of those envelopes with an order form on, and the girls take it into school.
On the order form you have to fill in all your details including credit card number, expiry date and the 3 number code on the back of the card. Bearing in mind this is on the outside of the envelope and being taken by children and handed to an adult (who we have no idea who that might be), this seems like a ludicrous thing to be asked to do?
Surely I'm not the first person to think it's a security disaster waiting to hit my bank account, so why does the photography company act so irresponsibly - they must have been asking for payment this way for years.
Or am I over cautious about this?
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I would have thought writing all that down and having your children walking around with it might be classed as irresponsible by your credit card company - there are just too many opportunities for it to fall into the wrong hands.
However, so called "Card holder not present" transactions are not as secure for the people receiving the payment - they are more easily reversed than those where you enter your pin.
So - I suspect if your info was misappropriated you have a good chance of getting refunds - but if you let them know how it got out they would be less sympathetic.
Ian
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We have to keep all those details in our safe at work (for customer not present recurrent sales) and must not keep the security number with them - otherwise the card company will not cover us if the client's details are used illegally.
It's not something I would be happy doing Keith.
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Definitely not putting the security code on. Why can't they phone you when processing the order?
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Madness on behalf of the photography company.
Didn't have credit cards when I paid for my kids school photos and yes they were black and white:(
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That's novel. How did you manage to have black and white kids H ?
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I would not put my card details on the outside of an envelope. Having been ripped off twice by cloning from use of my card on t'internet I am a bit paranoid about shredding such info now.
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During the wawwwr, he had a woman in every port...
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Originally posted by KKOB
That's novel. How did you manage to have black and white kids H ?
Maybe they look like a couple of everton mints.:D
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Without wishing to be pedantic: simply put the order envelope inside a bigger one seems a sensible solution to a distinctly stupid request!
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But at some stage, someone I don't know will remove the outer envelope and be presented with all the details they need to have a damn good spending spree...
To me it is a very irresponsible thing to ask you to write down and give. A lot of honest people can succumb to temptation when it is easily presented to them.
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Could you not put cash in the envelope then the spending spree will be limited to the amount of cash.
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Cant you give them a cheque?
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I wouldn't give all my details - just asking for trouble.
Just put your telephone number on the order form & ask them to contact you for card details - they should if they are after the business.
Is there no way of ordering the photo's on-line directly from the company rather than through school?
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Originally posted by posleeds
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Is there no way of ordering the photo's on-line directly from the company rather than through school?
:oMay that not be open to the worst kind of abuse.
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I think my point is more that the photographers should not even ask for these details, whether there are alternative methods of payment or not. People might not see the security risk of sending your child out with all the credit card details needed by a con artist - now that exposes the parent to the risk of being scammed, and quite possibly exposes children to the risk of being targeted too - any scammer seeing a child walking to school with one of these envelopes is just an easy snatch away from a spending spree.
Again I say I may be paranoid but this is a company who make their money through their association with schools, and I would have expected them to be far more responsible than this.
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Originally posted by Highlander
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Originally posted by posleeds
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Is there no way of ordering the photo's on-line directly from the company rather than through school?
:oMay that not be open to the worst kind of abuse.
[?]Why if it's a secure site - millions of people shop on-line every day paying by credit card - it would bypass the child carrying the details - far more open to abuse in my eyes :o
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posleeds - it was not credit card abuse I referred to but something much worse.
Maybe I'm totally wrong.
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Originally posted by Highlander
posleeds - it was not credit card abuse I referred to but something much worse.
Maybe I'm totally wrong.
Ahh I see what your getting at :-\
Several years ago my son's school only gave the option of ordering school photo's on-line. Each family was given a unique login number so they could view their childs photo's only (individual/class & year photo's) - if you were happy with them you ordered. You could not view other pupils individual pictures & unless some unscrupulous being got hold of the login number it seemed quite secure.
How times have changed!
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H,
We had some family photos done a few years back and when they were ready we got an email from the photographer with our account details, password and a link to the photos. Only those with these details could see and order our photos. Even now, after 3 or 4 years, we can go back on and order more if we want and it's secure as long as the photographer keeps his end of the bargain (I guess he's covered by the data protection act once we sign into the deal).
So it can be done much easier and much safer on line I think.
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Thanks posleeds and stoop for the reassurance. It's quite depressing that the thought even crossed my mind in the first place.
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P'raps you should contact the school and the photographic company. Ordered some graduation ones recently and had to view and order online. Maybe not everyone has that facility but surely the school could organise something. I would imagine that they get some sort of commission from the company for selling the photo's to parents. Another job for the PTA I think!