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Calis Beach Forum => Calis Beach Questions and Information => Topic started by: tinkerman on June 27, 2011, 13:41:34 PM
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For the third publication running Aegean newspaper has run stories of vicious and nasty dogs in Calis roaming the streets and according to the said newspaper this week people are asking where they can buy pepper spray! one of the pictures they show is Daisy or cow dog who has been on the front for years, we know all the pictured dogs.
I hearby issue a challenge to anyone from the Aegean Newspaper to meet me in Calis any morning noon or night and show me where they are.
Put Up or Shut Up.[:(!]
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Cow dog who plonked herself down in my lounge & completely ignored 3 kittens?
Idiots.
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We love cow dog! I think I actually gave the name (cue argument!!!). You can tell Andy is angry, he typed his title in ALL CAPITALS!!!
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YES! :D I think I named her Daisy ;)
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Originally posted by Scunner
We love cow dog! I think I actually gave the name (cue argument!!!). You can tell Andy is angry, he typed his title in ALL CAPITALS!!!
And rightly so...! I'm a sucker for all animals and say hello to all the dogs, even the big headcase rottie around the corner from us, and have never had any trouble from them...
A few dogs dislike scooters/bikes/cars and the odd turk, but are on the whole pretty friendly...
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Fancy showing a picture of Cow Dog as being vicious, she is the daftest thing....actually I have to stand accused because she followed us into Linda and Johns house...lol...then had a drink and eat the cats food, then went to sleep...she's gorgeous....bloody idiots like Andy says PUT UP OR SHUT UP....
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Andy is not an idiot :D
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We nicknamed Daisy the Bond Dog as her street tag number is 007.Daisy dangerous?? She is more license to fill, than license to kill.
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Daisy is so docile, she's more likely to lick you to death! Probably the worst injury she would inflict is when you fall over her
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Ha Ha Tony....dont tell Andy I called him an idiot :D
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Originally posted by june
Ha Ha Tony....dont tell Andy I called him an idiot :D
Your secret is safe with me June ;)
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I was just about to reply to your e mail June, don't think I'll bother now:D
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300 reads :) just as a matter of interest has anyone or knows of anyone who has enquired about pepper sprays to deter dogs?
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I think the guy who runs the Aegean paper is an absoulute IDIOT!! Talk about scaremongering. Maybe his aim is to frighten people away from Calis in case they come across one of the many 'vicious' street dogs!! I agree with Andy, 'Put up or Shut up'!!!
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it certainly is a strange way of treating your local advertisers, the people who pay for your free publication to be published in order to promote their business...hardly reader friendly.
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However, I dont know which dog it was but it was big. Last week on the cordon, one of the village ladies pushing a migros trolley and collecting bits and pieces. Shae had about 4 dogs with her and one was very big, barked constantly and lunged with teeth at anyone within a meter.
jackie was very close to being bitten, I mean a centimeter.
Very unhappy dog.
For those that don't know we also have a doggy member of the family but that scared me also.
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Wheres the cordon Steve? ah is that near your house in Fethiye?
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never had any trouble with the dogs in calis,they only want a bit of fuss,
they do chase the scooters that ride down the sea front.[rightly so in my mind]
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I agree most of the dogs are friendly but there is a couple that are not.There is two or three that take over a section of the road near nevada su hotel as you walk or drive your scooter towards the canal.Also there is a few owners with large dogs that do not walk them with leads around the same location.This makes walking your own dog difficult as you have to deal with them as well as your own.Not every one likes dogs so if they come towards you or your children it makes you panic.It is a proven fact that you can not guaranty how your dog will behave around people.So please think of other people and dog owners when walking yours.The sea front area is nearly impossible to walk along with your own dog as the stray ones do attack as they are very territorial.Please do not think I dislike dogs I dont I have one.
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Just to reply to Tinkerman re pepper spray to deter dogs.
Yes, a few years ago, I tried to get a spray: at the request of a Guest, after his wife had been bitten by a tagged dog in Calis, a wound severe enough to need a couple of stitches.
I enquired at "sporting" shop near the fish market in Fethiye. The owner would not supply me with a spray ( though he did say his "Pal" could get me one with no problem - though I gather not altogether legally)
The shopkeeper though was quite happy to supply me with a Taser!
The next year the Daughter of a visitor demonstrated her Rape Alarm. My two dogs bolted to the bottom of the garden and hid there for a good five minutes. It would seem the high pitched noise really did affect them. Perhaps those who feel so inclined could carry one of these?
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A lot of these 'hard' dogs are nothing of the sort - the car chasers are a prime example. As you drive off they are there, snarling up at you, running along like a crazed beast. Try slamming the brakes on and holding a stare with them - they haven't a clue what to do and slope off sheepishly :D
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Aww poor Cow Dog - I know she is prone to roll in really disgusting dead things and can smell a bit but she's really sweet :-)
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We always stop and pet Daisy (Cow) whenever we are up in Calis.She always comes and sits with us if we have a drink at Bostans. Never had a problem with her or the Vets dog (the one that looks a bit like Chewbaka from star wars).
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The rape alarm idea is a good idea if you are really frightened, but using pepper spray will be totally illegal, believe it or not there are laws protecting animals from cruelty, if we hear of such cases we will contact the Zabita direct and they will react to our calls.
if anyone knows of any vicious strays wandering the Calis or indeed the Fethiye area please contact us and we will have it collected immediatley, Im sure Aegean newspapers will contact me soon and show me where they all are.
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mac2010,some good advice there. There is a huge dog walked every day at the same time and never on a lead around the sitesi here. Most days street dogs join in the walk,so as they are not discouraged they become a nuisance and annoy any dogs they pass on the way and I guess the person disowns them if they cause any bother.Expect a mouthful if you mention Turkish law says dogs on a lead and not causing a nuisance. Like scooters, some dog owners are inconsiderate and feel above any laws.Saying that I have noticed a few more dogs on leads lately,there is some hope.
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Originally posted by Scunner
A lot of these 'hard' dogs are nothing of the sort - the car chasers are a prime example. As you drive off they are there, snarling up at you, running along like a crazed beast.:D
Not so much fun when you're on a scooter ;)
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True, and for the record I am not brave enough to do it when I am on foot :D
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Good on you Andy. There are no two nicer dogs than wolfy and pooie. When it comes to dogs chasing bikes and cars, the worst two are not street dogs. One is a short legged black thing that belongs to a family who live in Erdemler sitese and the other is a black and white, big dog that belongs to a tall guy who lives at the corner of the Migros road and the road which runs down to the Roka. I see those two on a regular basis and marvel as to how no one has had an accident because of them. There are no bad dogs, just bad owners.
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How right you are.
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Looks like you got a reply Andy.
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What an ill informed publication the Aegean Independent is, relying on articles sent by agencies with no verification checks. Absolute tosh.
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It was only this week on Monday evening at a well known restaurant in Koca Calis, that I witnessed this myself as our friend *********** had to literally pull here (maybe that should be "her")terrier dog from the mouth of one of these stray dogs. Where were the people from the dog shelter then?"
Well did you call them? do you need one of them at your side at all hours, just in case. I KNOW they work long hours giving their time freely, one phone call could have sorted it, but no, no CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, just report it in a second rate rag, must get a story somehow. How did you know it was a stray? it may have been owned, was it looked after by the resaurant? why didn't the restaurant guy's get rid of it if it was annoying customers? Your story stinks mate.
I must admit I do pick up my copy when I see them, they are good for starting our fire in the winter.
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Agree with your comments Diverbaz 1. The comment "where were the people from the dog shelter then." beggars belief. I didn't realise they are expected to patrol the area at all times! Madness.
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A few questions to the Editor,
Why did the people not contact the owner of the restaurant and ask them to sort the problem? why haven't you named the restaurant so we might follow the story up and pick up any nuisance strays and why has no one contacted us or the shelter to sort the problem?
why isnt this story being translated into Turkish and who is your agency?
We do not patrol the streets, we act on reports and we are on call everyday, this is entirely voluntary, if you tell us where these dogs are as I asked on the 27th June we may be able to do something,
if you really want to help solve any problem regarding dogs pass the report on to us with full details and we will act upon it.
How about setting up a meeting with yourself, Perihan Agnelli and myself?
Animal Aid
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what i would also like to know is , if these dogs were so bad WHY would you return to the same place the next night ????????????? Seems more than a little Stupid to me .........
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Yes John, I think they have proved themselves to be the "idiots"
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To be honest reporting this instead of addressing it in an adult fashion as invited doesn't make them look very credible.
Mind you the scathing report that they wrote ( that bore no resemblance to the way most of us remembered it ) about the carnival made many have concerns about their reporting.
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Perihan is now trying to contact the Editor.
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Strange how they had photo's of the little dog that was attacked BUT not of the dog that attacked it, like Baz said great for lighting the fire and nothing else
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Sadly most restaurants in Koca Calis think having a dog is mandatory and encourage any stray in the area to run freely on their premises. Maybe the law stating dogs on a lead in a public place is then avoided and free security gained in the restaurant owners eyes...for some reason.Some of the surplus strays that chase cars,bikes etc seem to have disappeared lately as it was far worse.You just have to look out for the people who must play pied piper and walk with their dogs off the lead and the resulting strays that join them.No matter what the law says about leads and dogs roaming and causing a nuisance,my dog is well behaved they say as its nowhere to be seen.
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Dear Ed,[removed],did you ever work for the Murdoch empire
Edited by Scunner
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Originally posted by Scunner
A lot of these 'hard' dogs are nothing of the sort - the car chasers are a prime example. As you drive off they are there, snarling up at you, running along like a crazed beast. Try slamming the brakes on and holding a stare with them - they haven't a clue what to do and slope off sheepishly :D
There are 3 dogs in my street that are not street dogs, but left in the street by their owners. These dogs regularly chase cyclist and pedestrians ( scooters and cars too). This can be a harrowing experience for youngsters and adults who have a fear of dogs. The impression I get from the animal lovers is that there is no problem; this is not the case and if any of them would like to take a walk along 1005 Sokak, they will be able to verify what I have said ( unless they are lucky - there was a strange absence of dogs for a few days a month or so ago ).
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God help The editor .... I use that term very loosely of course.....lol
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I love dogs and to prove it we rehomed a Turkish street dog and when we returned to the UK we brought it back with us and spent 7 months in France to get a pet passport.One of our dogs need to sneeze and it is off to the vet.
It is all well and good to say that these dogs are harmless but it only takes one to turn and a child could be seriously injured. Due to rabies a dog bite in Turkey has to be taken seriously. Irresponsible owners who let their dogs ramble the streets should be prosecuted. Some bar and restaurant owners think having a cute dog will attract the British tourist.When winter comes the dogs are shot or abandoned. A number of CBF members do sterling work in protecting animal rights and the situation has got much better over the years.
I have not read what this editor of the paper has said but I as I understand it he is having a pop at Calis and using the dogs as the stick. I would have had much more support for him if he kept to the issue of street dogs because it is not just limited to Fethiye. I have seen dogs rambling around other resorts and towns. It is a countrywide issue.
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Originally posted by ronzeus
Dear Ed,[removed] ,did you ever work for the Murdoch empire
Do you know David the editor? have you ever met him? I suspect not he is a good bloke who does a lot to help charities behind the scenes.
Again a senior member is allowed to make remarks that are against forum etiquette, and hide behind a forum name without even a picture.
If you think that of him go to his office and tell him.
Mark
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Mark that is entirely unfair and incorrect. "Senior members" are not allowed to break forum rules more than newcomers. I missed the remark earlier as I occasionally have a life of my own and wasn't here. I have removed the comment and will have a quiet word with Ron. If there is one thing that really irritates me it is the belief of some that the opinions of members are evidence of failings of the CBF. They are not.
We have let this topic run as it appears to be adults discussing a situation. If we need to lock every disagreement that happens on here we will become a total farce, and it won't be happening.
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Originally posted by maximumtom
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Originally posted by Scunner
A lot of these 'hard' dogs are nothing of the sort - the car chasers are a prime example. As you drive off they are there, snarling up at you, running along like a crazed beast. Try slamming the brakes on and holding a stare with them - they haven't a clue what to do and slope off sheepishly :D
There are 3 dogs in my street that are not street dogs, but left in the street by their owners. These dogs regularly chase cyclist and pedestrians ( scooters and cars too). This can be a harrowing experience for youngsters and adults who have a fear of dogs. The impression I get from the animal lovers is that there is no problem; this is not the case and if any of them would like to take a walk along 1005 Sokak, they will be able to verify what I have said ( unless they are lucky - there was a strange absence of dogs for a few days a month or so ago ).
The street dogs here are ok as they are usually very placid due to their lifestyle But there are too many dogs with owners who let them roam free, When I am walking my dogs I have no problems with the street dogs as they are very subordinate But the dogs that have owners can be very aggresive and territorial to us They are the dogs that have to be controlled and the problem addressed
So sorry but I agree with the Aegean There are too many nasty dogs here roaming the streets Esp when there is a bitch on heat roaming
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Do you know David the editor? have you ever met him? I suspect not he is a good bloke who does a lot to help charities behind the scenes.
Again a senior member is allowed to make remarks that are against forum etiquette, and hide behind a forum name without even a picture.
If you think that of him go to his office and tell him.
Mark
Yes Mark I do know David and my remarks stand and I WILL tell him to his face when I see him, I am not known for hiding behind a computer. Also my picture is there for all to see.
He certainly is doing a lot for the charities behind the scene's, Putting people off coming to Fethiye/Calis. Not very pro-active is it.
I also had to edit my first reply, before Kieth did.
Just another point, Why did these people who do not like dogs in a restaurant take THEIR dog to the restaurant.
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There are loads of horrible dogs in Calis, when we were in Fethiye I never had a problem with them. The problems are the ones that have owners that dont look after them properly.
My friend was walking home from my place last week and a dog walked up behind her and bit her on the back of the leg :(
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Originally posted by booo
There are loads of horrible dogs in Calis, when we were in Fethiye I never had a problem with them. The problems are the ones that have owners that dont look after them properly.
My friend was walking home from my place last week and a dog walked up behind her and bit her on the back of the leg :(
did she report to anybody? it can be solved if there is a bad one about, we just need someone to report it and it can be collected off the street
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Originally posted by Scunner
Mark that is entirely unfair and incorrect. "Senior members" are not allowed to break forum rules more than newcomers. I missed the remark earlier as I occasionally have a life of my own and wasn't here. I have removed the comment and will have a quiet word with Ron. If there is one thing that really irritates me it is the belief of some that the opinions of members are evidence of failings of the CBF. They are not.
We have let this topic run as it appears to be adults discussing a situation. If we need to lock every disagreement that happens on here we will become a total farce, and it won't be happening.
Keith I did not mean to imply Ron's remarks were a reflection on the forum, he just happened to be a senior member..
Baz I am not defending the articles written in the paper, I was commenting on the type of language used by Ron, I am sure you will make your feelings known to him 8)
Mark
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This thread is highlighting a lot of issues.
Aside from the Agean reporting issue some people are saying they know of problem dogs.
I hope that these people will be proactive & take appropriate measures to protect others.
If I knew a local dog, street or owned, was likely to harm anyone, or another animal, I would do something about it as god forbid something happened I wouldn't be able to forgive myself.
I won't however be reporting the lovely cowdog!
Seriously,please those of you who are aware of problems do something! If the reason you've done nothing til now is because you werent sure of the procedure or who to tell, contact Tinkerman & he will guide you through the process.
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No she didnt report it as it wasnt a bad bite, a revenge attack after she told it to shhh :)
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Originally posted by booo
No she didnt report it as it wasnt a bad bite, a revenge attack after she told it to shhh :)
I'm sorry but you still need to call either the dog catcher or zabita to collect the dog, as although you say it was a small bite on her leg, what if she had a small child with her...? This would have been at face level ....
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Very true johnboy1967 and how do you know its not rabid.
Not many dog owners on here are saying whether they let their dogs run off the lead (as they are in total control), I notice or has Ovacikpeedoff hit the nail on the head.
Julesp also quotes "When I am walking my dogs I have no problems with the street dogs as they are very subordinate But the dogs that have owners can be very aggresive and territorial to us They are the dogs that have to be controlled and the problem addressed"
How many houses do you walk past and notice a dog inside, that now runs out of the open gate threatening or just barking its head off,surely this could be avoided or are we all supposed to drive everywhere. These aren't street dogs!!
Surprises me how many dogs some people keep in small houses with no garden
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Is pepper spray something else I have to pack for my first visit to Calis on 3rd August? I didnt know you had this kind of problem,going by all the nice things people say about Calis it is a problem for me as my two little girls do not like dogs.They will get no change from me but a face full of spray
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Is pepper spray something else I have to pack for my first visit to Calis on 3rd August? I didnt know you had this kind of problem,going by all the nice things people say about Calis it is a problem for me as my two little girls do not like dogs.They will get no change from me but a face full of spray
See what I mean Mark!!!
Duffyinthesun, don't worry, it is not that bad, it has been blown out of all proportion by the gutter rag.
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Originally posted by duffyinthesun
Is pepper spray something else I have to pack for my first visit to Calis on 3rd August? I didnt know you had this kind of problem,going by all the nice things people say about Calis it is a problem for me as my two little girls do not like dogs.They will get no change from me but a face full of spray
And of course just in case you were serious, animal abuse is a offence in Turkey and you could find yourself in trouble with the law.....!
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Judging by these comments it does not sound out of proportion to me, these comments are from people who have experienced it first hand.Are there anymore things that I should know about Calis that wont have come to light until the press get hold of it?
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Originally posted by johnboy1967
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Originally posted by duffyinthesun
Is pepper spray something else I have to pack for my first visit to Calis on 3rd August? I didnt know you had this kind of problem,going by all the nice things people say about Calis it is a problem for me as my two little girls do not like dogs.They will get no change from me but a face full of spray
And of course just in case you were serious, animal abuse is a offence in Turkey and you could find yourself in trouble with the law.....!
I will take my chances against any dumb mutt that gets anywhere near my girls
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Originally posted by johnboy1967
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Originally posted by duffyinthesun
Is pepper spray something else I have to pack for my first visit to Calis on 3rd August? I didnt know you had this kind of problem,going by all the nice things people say about Calis it is a problem for me as my two little girls do not like dogs.They will get no change from me but a face full of spray
And of course just in case you were serious, animal abuse is a offence in Turkey and you could find yourself in trouble with the law.....!
I will take my chances against any dumb mutt that gets anywhere near my girls I am coming on holiday not to be a dog warden. Why dont you get up and do something about this problem then
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Why don't you read the thread from the beginning? One person got bitten but decided not to report it.
This whole issue is about asking people to show us where these vicious dogs are.
8000 forum members & so far not one dangerous dog been reported to the relevant channels.
During your visit you will encounter many dogs, despite the efforts of so many (including Johnboy who has been getting up and doing something about it) street dogs are part of life here.
I'm not sure this is going to be the right resort for you if your girls are scared of dogs.
Having said that in 15 years of bringing my children to calis never had an issue and brought mine up to love and respect animals.
Only time my kids got attacked by a dog was on a beach on the Isle of Wight so maybe you shouldnt go there either.
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Unless it's got worse this year I can honestly say the dogs have reduced in numbers quite a lot of the last 8 years. Also the ones at the restaurants in Koca Calis have never been a problem really. We've been 'walked home' at night by a few and one or two of them will lie down near the table whilst we eat - but if we want rid the waiter always gets rid of them for us (or they get bored waiting for food).
I think the charity has been tremendous and I take my hat off to all those involved.
Things I don't like are the people that get a dog for the summer whilst they are in Calis and then they want to dump them when they go back to Istanbul or wherever. I've seen this happen on our sitesi and it's something I could never have the heart to do to the poor things. A dog is for life as fer as I'm concerned - not just a pet/deterrent for the summer.
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Originally posted by Ovacikpeedoff
I love dogs and to prove it we rehomed a Turkish street dog and when we returned to the UK we brought it back with us and spent 7 months in France to get a pet passport.One of our dogs need to sneeze and it is off to the vet.
It is all well and good to say that these dogs are harmless but it only takes one to turn and a child could be seriously injured. Due to rabies a dog bite in Turkey has to be taken seriously. Irresponsible owners who let their dogs ramble the streets should be prosecuted. Some bar and restaurant owners think having a cute dog will attract the British tourist.When winter comes the dogs are shot or abandoned. A number of CBF members do sterling work in protecting animal rights and the situation has got much better over the years.
I have not read what this editor of the paper has said but I as I understand it he is having a pop at Calis and using the dogs as the stick. I would have had much more support for him if he kept to the issue of street dogs because it is not just limited to Fethiye. I have seen dogs rambling around other resorts and towns. It is a countrywide issue.
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oops sorry,not used to replying to a posting and pressed the wrong key.Was replying to the above to say not all the hotel and restaurant owners abandon or get rid of the dogs who frequent their establishments during the summer.I know of one animal lover who feeds 'his' street dogs and adopted street cat throughout the winter and not just on bread and water.Hence why 'Daisy' or 'Poohie' or 'cow dog' whatever you want to call her is so fat!
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Calis is promoted as a family resort, from what you are saying it obviously is not and people like you should post your comments and say it is not suitable so that I could spend my hard earned cash and go somewhere that is. I will forward your comments to the Isle of Wight tourist board, they might reply yo you
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Judging by these comments it does not sound out of proportion to me, these comments are from people who have experienced it first hand.Are there anymore things that I should know about Calis that wont have come to light until the press get hold of it?
Believe me, come and have your holiday, the only thing that is liable to bite you is the Calis bug, the feeling that you will want to return again and again. I have lived here full time for over 3 and a half years and seen first hand the difference with the street dogs (they were all probably owned at some time and the owners have abandoned them, so they are not wild dogs). The Animal Aid guys do a splendid job, as you will see when you arrive.
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Trust me the Isle of Wight were well aware. The Police took it very seriously and as it wasnt the first time the dog was removed from the owner and took on a new career with the army.
We even got compensation for the children's ripped coats.
I'm sorry you chose to read the comment the way you did, the point I was trying to make was that it can happen anywhere.
Anyway, must get on, had a busy week helping to raise over 1000 tl to help pay for the neutering programme to continue the work to reduce the number of street dogs, and more fundraising tonight.
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I will take my chances against any dumb mutt that gets anywhere near my girls I am coming on holiday not to be a dog warden. Why dont you get up and do something about this problem then
For one there are no bad street dogs here.... There are a few who could do with a little better training, not abused either verbally or physically by anyone... You seem to have missed the main point of this whole thread anyway that people that live here believe that the street dogs are not nasty and all that was asked was that if people accounter a problem TO REPORT IT so it can be sorted....... Which the newspaper reporter hasn't done...!
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Duffy we have been visiting Turkey (and Calis in particular) for over ten years. I am nervous of dogs, my daughter is nervous of dogs, but I can honestly say we have never ever come across aggressive street dogs in the region at all. There are dogs that roam, but they are normally docile and just want to be left alone to sun themselves in peace. Please don't let one comment spoil what will probably be a fab holiday for you and your girls. AND, in support of all the animal aid volunteers that work so damn hard for the animals in Fethiye, thank you. These animals need love and care and having been a regular visitor for the last few years, we can notice the difference that your efforts make. These animals now have a voice, whereas before no one was listening. You have made such a huge contribution to not only the animals lives, but to the local area, but ensuring locals are educated about animals and their needs. Thank you. Duffy - please don't worry :)
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I cant really believe how a comment on a dog/dogs can be blown so out of proportion and create 7 pages of response...to actually say Daiy (Cow Dog) is vicious says it all...they know nothing...
I agree with Stoop...and definately in the 9/10 years we have been coming to Calis the street dogs have reduced enormously and there was only one dog a few years ago that seemed to be causing a stir and that was dealt with admirably by Animal Aid.....as always.
So stop scaremongering and putting people off Calis Beach when you dont know what you are talking about....
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Originally posted by karaokemark
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Originally posted by ronzeus
Dear Ed,[removed] ,did you ever work for the Murdoch empire
Do you know David the editor? have you ever met him? I suspect not he is a good bloke who does a lot to help charities behind the scenes.
Again a senior member is allowed to make remarks that are against forum etiquette, and hide behind a forum name without even a picture.
If you think that of him go to his office and tell him.
Mark
Sorry that you think that Mark because i have never hid behind anything and i have no problems telling anyone to their face either ,its just that it very hard for me to get to his office from Burringham.
I appologise to anyone who was upset by my mildly abusive remark however i still think it was a poor reflection on what actually occurs in Calis and it was out of order him to critise Tinks and his team who do a great job.
If you really want to know what i look like Mark ,i am in my 50s bald 16 and a half stone 6 ft 1 ,we actually met at a dolmus stop a couple of years ago.
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Originally posted by duffyinthesun
Is pepper spray something else I have to pack for my first visit to Calis on 3rd August? I didnt know you had this kind of problem,going by all the nice things people say about Calis it is a problem for me as my two little girls do not like dogs.They will get no change from me but a face full of spray
The same as Pookie, I'm fairly nervous around dogs too after a confrontation with a pit bull when I was 11. I remember seeing some strays on my first visit to Calis and feeling like crapping myself until they walked past and took no notice of me. Over the last few visits and here at home I'm much better with dogs now and during last years holiday I was much more comfortable with seeing the strays :)
However I have seen the other side of this, sat on the balcony last year and seeing a pack of dogs being fairly aggressive with each other on the road along the Golden Moon Hotel and the Venice Apartments onto the main street. A man did walk past but the dogs ignored him, suggesting it was more a territorial thing with just the dogs. Only saw them once though.
Can anyone also explain to me which dog is Cow Dog? I remember a sweet female stray (I think) outside B52 some nights but I wouldn't know if it was her or not :)
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Cow dog is the dog who is white with black patches-like a Fresian cow lol! My husband's father was here a couple of years ago & we were stroking cow dog aka Daisy & he said 'why do you call her cow dog?' !! well fairly obvious to us as she has markings like a cow!!
Seriously we have 3 dogs at home & often get called by people who are either dog haters or can not understand the companionship & love that having animals bring. Our animals are always on a lead & are well-behaved. They encounter many dogs out & about in Calis on their walks but never, ever have a problem.
unfortunately animals do respond to negative emotions, so if you are wary or dislike dogs the ones you encounter will pick up on that & respond accordingly.
For anyone to suggest that they would use a pepper spray on an animal is abhorrent. For any first time visitors to Calis, you will not see packs of rabid dogs roaming the streets-we are a civilised society here!!
'If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons!!'
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Well said Mario......
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June
marjo
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Strange to be bumping this topic again after so long but the former editor of this newspaper is my brother and the family is desperately trying to persuade him to telephone his mother - he hasn't done so for almost three years. she is 83, very unwell and anxious to speak to him. We've even started a Facebook page here https://www.facebook.com/davidphonehome
No-one can understand why an Irishman wouldn't phone his mum and I hope he has friends here who might talk some sense into him - before it's too late.
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It might be a good idea to start a new thread topic rather than add on to a nearly 4 year old one.....
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You know, I wasn't sure what to do. I'm in a quandary about the whole thing. It looked as if people on this thread knew him, which is why I posted here.
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And posting here gives plenty of info in the topic that may help people recall who it is. I exchanged a few emails with David but don't know him, sorry. Good luck with this.
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What I really want to see is people who know him urging him to behave like a responsible adult and phone his mother while he still can.