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Other Local Resorts & Areas => Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Shakira on July 14, 2011, 15:14:44 PM

Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Shakira on July 14, 2011, 15:14:44 PM
Hi forum members  :), I have a lovely little Villa in Uzumlu that I want to put on the market; would anyone be able to give me some advice on good estate agents to use in fethiye, I am considering efes estate & Engel & Volkers are they any good? I need to sort for next week.
Also are there any other costs involed when selling a property apart from the 3% commision charge and solictors fees. Any advice welcomed. Thank you  :)
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: BM06 on July 14, 2011, 15:35:59 PM
I am sure someone on this site just might be able to help 8) try a pm message to Scunner/Kieth on the forum.  :) good luck:D
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: pookie on July 14, 2011, 16:11:36 PM
ooohh   :(

Shakira - how could you ? :(  if you email me £ etc, we may know a friend who would be interested.....Pooks x
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: joannasal on July 15, 2011, 05:18:19 AM
Premier Estates - contact Tracey. Really good and honest, I used Tracey when I was buying my property.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on July 15, 2011, 11:52:43 AM
I understand Premier Estates is no longer. Apologies to them if that is incorrect but I believe it is the case.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: jrichards1 on July 15, 2011, 11:52:50 AM
Cenk at Iterturk Estates

Honest and trustworthy. Used him when buying 6 years ago and is still willing to give good advice and help.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: steveb1 on July 15, 2011, 12:49:25 PM
can 2nd cenk at interturk Honest and trustworthy top man
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on July 15, 2011, 12:51:02 PM
I'm not sure he is a "top" man Steve :D
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: cenk on July 15, 2011, 13:14:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

I'm not sure he is a "top" man Steve :D



:D
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: usedbustickets on July 15, 2011, 13:33:40 PM
My gardener's cousin, who speaks good english,who is related to a good barman could sell it for you:D
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on July 15, 2011, 13:41:56 PM
I know him Pete - sadly his English isn't so good 6 months later, when the tapu has still not been issued in the new owner's name and there is no living permission :D
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: bewva on July 15, 2011, 19:14:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

I know him Pete - sadly his English isn't so good 6 months later, when the tapu has still not been issued in the new owner's name and there is no living permission :D


Yes but after a few effes in his relatives bar things will become clear again and you will realise you are worrying about nothing. (until the morning):D
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: joannasal on July 16, 2011, 04:11:32 AM
Premier Estates is most definitely still in business!
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: philrose on July 16, 2011, 05:59:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

I understand Premier Estates is no longer. Apologies to them if that is incorrect but I believe it is the case.


Well unless they went out of business in the last week, they are still very much up and running ;)
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on July 16, 2011, 09:32:06 AM
Fair enough  :)
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: nichola on July 16, 2011, 12:14:47 PM
I believe and do correct me if I have any details missing that Keith AKA Scunner on this forum also has a facility to advertise and sell your property.

He would then also be able to advise on all aspects of selling as well  8)
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: hunnipie on July 16, 2011, 22:27:40 PM
I have had dealings with both these agents this year as i am still looking to buy a property,they were both friendly,helpfull and english speaking,but as an english surrey family we expect a lot more than they can deliver,myself i would not choose them as there
network in england did not seem very strong,after all you want to sell your property and not just chat about it,property network in the lykia building in fethiye were on the ball in both countries,you could always try them,good luck,
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on July 16, 2011, 22:42:00 PM
You want to buy a property in Turkey but neither company have a strong network in the UK? Why would they need one to sell someone a property in Turkey? Total rubbish. You have no idea what network they have in the UK. Before you trash firms let me tell you something; trust me because I know, they both sell WAY more properties in the Fethiye than the people you suggest!!!

Please take a minute or so to tell us what it was you wanted that neither could deliver.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: hunnipie on July 17, 2011, 00:45:16 AM
ahello scunner, I am no way disrespecting the agents concerned,just saying there are better conected real estates than those mentioned,when you are sitting using your laptop in london enquiring about fethiye property,you expect correct information to be provided, property network gave us so much more help,advice and the information we wanted to know,not what other agents wanted us too know. Everyone has there favorites.:D
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on July 17, 2011, 00:48:55 AM
Yes of course, but amazing as they sound, you didn't buy from them either. I am intrigued to hear what it was you expect that neither of the other agents could deliver...
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: hunnipie on July 17, 2011, 01:07:37 AM
hi scunner,i viewed quite a few properties and the ones i was interested in i delved a bit deeper into, and found out a lot as in
dodgy tapu,unsafe basement,damp in ceilings and roof,etc, when they expect a nonreturnable hold of anything from £1000 upwards, its best just to do a bit of homework that was all i was saying, also as in network,i mean not only people in fethiye area waqnt to view the whole world may be interested.:D[^]
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on July 17, 2011, 01:20:22 AM
My point is that while networking is the new answer to the World's business problems, the ones you suggest don't network enough outsell your preferred (and recommended) agent by more than several to one. So networking isn't the Holy Grail for Fethiye property. I'd be very interested to hear (just picking one from your list) which agent showed you property that you later found to have a "dodgy tapu" because I know for absolute fact which one it wasn't. You can tell me by email if you prefer but I have a feeling you won't tell me at all because vague does appear to be very much the style of your game here!
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: hunnipie on July 17, 2011, 01:37:10 AM
Hi scunner,im sorry but networking is the way forward, whether you are buying or selling,and as the saying goes "a fool and his money are easily parted",I am in fethiye in august and september and would be happy to have a cup of tea and a good chat with you.also i dont consider myself vague just cautious and will not be making enemies in my new home area.!!
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on July 17, 2011, 01:51:58 AM
You'll not make a enemy of me, I have enough already  ;)

The point is that you isolated two specific agents and claimed (amongst the list) dodgy tapus, structural problems and the like. You didn't return to back that up which leaves a vague accusation in the lap of one of them. Or indeed the other. But definitely one of them. I would say that isn't the way to make friends in your "new home area" but then maybe I overreact in the name of others. It's a dirty, horrible, backstabbing business to find yourself in and to be honest, the implied criticism (such as yours) is worse than the direct attack.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: hunnipie on July 17, 2011, 02:08:13 AM
Its a tough world we live in, and if you cant take criticism dont give it.
I shall end it there,also you can buy the teas.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on July 17, 2011, 02:12:12 AM
You didn't criticise me so where that comment is from I have no idea. You didn't answer the question either. You accused companies of showing houses with "dodgy tapus" and the like and couldn't back it up when challenged. The End.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Shakira on July 20, 2011, 18:36:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by pookie

ooohh   :(

Shakira - how could you ? :(  if you email me £ etc, we may know a friend who would be interested.....Pooks x



Have emailed you Pookie x :)
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Shakira on July 20, 2011, 19:08:00 PM
Thank you to those forum members that have given me some pointers :D. Scunner would you be kind enough to inform me as to whether Efes Estates are any good as you seem to be quite knowledgeable  :)
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: cenk on July 21, 2011, 11:12:08 AM
hunipie
According to your profile, your name is sharon ley. I am definately sure that we didnt have any customer with surname ley.

And also many members of cbf knows that, i dont start advertising a property without seeing the deed.

Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Harmless on July 21, 2011, 12:29:57 PM
Also, there is a point in using a solicitor, they check the deed for any debts/charges against it etc and ensure all is clean.  Estate Agents here advise for clients to use a solicitor with good reason. Just as in the UK.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: trainer on July 21, 2011, 13:30:16 PM
The wife and I bought our apartment nearly 5 years ago from Cenk and Olga (interturk Estates) we spent nearly a year researching the area the type of accommodation and the estate agent, we eventually bought an off plan apartment from Cenk mainly on recommendation from CBF members. Evan after all the research and recommendations we still had doubts but we went ahead and put our trust in the estate agents at the end of the day we were buying something that if went wrong could bankrupt us.
I can honestly say that all the way through the build and buying process we never had one problem even though we were thousands of miles away I never once thought that we would have problems, every email was replied to promptly all the way through the build progress photographs were sent and any interaction with the builder was relayed back to us straight away.
Over the period of the build there was a lot of talk on CBF about Tapu's mainly length of time it takes for them to come through and touristic land, we had it back within a few weeks with no problems at all.
After all this time we still pop in to see Cenk and would class him and Olga as friends, I have found after several conversations regarding touristic land, builders and tapu's that Cenk would not sell any property new or old if he thought there was going to be a problem with either the builder or the tapu and I would recommend Cenk and Olga above all else
I would also like to say that Keith came highly recommended but at the time Cenk had the right property for us.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: longjohn1953 on July 21, 2011, 17:29:07 PM
having bought an apartment in gunlukbasi with the help of cenk, olga and keith. all i can say is that i agree totally with trainer. we had no problems whatsoever and are more than happy with our purchase, so much so that some friends of ours are coming to calis with us in septemberto also hopefully find a property. keep up the good works guys oops an gal
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on July 21, 2011, 17:53:19 PM
It quite clearly is a smear without even having the balls to name the agent - just state that they have been mentioned earlier in the topic. I know for a fact that it isn't Interturk (assuming they even met with Cenk, even that now sounds unlikely) - and I know it for a fact because Cenk is a pain in the a*** when it comes to paperwork! I ask him to add properties that I am selling to his website and I'm sent away to get a tapu copy, scan of habitation certificate etc etc before it appears.

If they have evidence that they were shown properties with deed problems they should name the agent or shut up. I have known (and worked with) Cenk for 8 years and I can tell you he knows the business inside out and there are no skeletons in his cupboard at all. Hence the need to smear in this way - no facts, just suggestion and implication.

If people ever wonder why I am weary of the property business, this goes a long way to explain part of it.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: stoop on July 21, 2011, 19:38:52 PM
It's probably someone with a link to an agency or someone who has an axe to grind. Keyboard warriors eh?
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: MWilliams on August 06, 2011, 11:55:26 AM
I'd avoid Adres Emlak. Too much in the developers' pockets and, for British markets, insufficient English.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on August 06, 2011, 12:20:42 PM
They must have spoken sufficient enough English to get you interested enough to meet them...
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Ovacikpeedoff on August 06, 2011, 14:22:44 PM
'I'd avoid Adres Emlak. Too much in the developers' pockets and, for British markets, insufficient English.'

These are the types of quotes that really wind me up. So what are the justifications for making such a quote. If they have done something wrong state it and dont just make off the cuff and broad stroke comments.These unsupported comments could easily destroy a business .
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: GordonA on August 06, 2011, 22:33:41 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!
 Sorry for shouting, but these bloody scandalous rumour mongering sonsabitches really rattle my cage.
Go with Interturk Estates or Keith, if you want a hassle free, honest to goodness transaction. End of.
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: peecee on August 12, 2011, 07:56:35 AM
Quote  'I'd avoid Adres Emlak. Too much in the developers' pockets and, for British markets, insufficient English.'

I do wonder at some peoples 'off the cuff' remarks.  Wonder if they would be prepared to back them up in Court if it came to that?
Title: Estate Agents
Post by: Scunner on August 14, 2011, 15:34:30 PM
Th answer is no, they wouldn't want to go to court, and if they had to they couldn't back it up. What interests me is that these people manage to find CBF after they had a less than satisfying experience in the property market. Isn't research done before heading off into the sun to buy a property in a country you know nothing about? Even more interesting (to a website administrator and property agent) is the fact that they appear from nowhere, slag somebody off, and disappear never to return. This guy has never returned to read the replies to his nasty swipe.

I'd give it all the credibility that it deserves - none.