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General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: elaina on July 28, 2011, 12:09:21 PM

Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: elaina on July 28, 2011, 12:09:21 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019698/Madeleine-McCann-spotted-north-Indian-market-tourist.html

Hope it is her - at least then her parents' nightmare will be over.
Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: Highlander on July 28, 2011, 13:14:52 PM
At the risk of rekindling this emotive topic on here part of the report quotes Mrs McCann as saying

"She also believes the man who snatched her daughter may have gone to the holiday flat the night before but fled after being disturbed."

OH really !!!!! - and you still thought it was ok to leave your three childern alone the very following night. AGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

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Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: elaina on July 28, 2011, 13:39:33 PM
I still hope it is her.  We all make mistakes and hindsight is a wonderful thing.  I made a mistake and I live it with every day and everytime I come to Turkey. I don't think there is a person on this forum that has not made a mistake at sometime in their life but, alas, some mistakes are worse than others and some of us unforunately have to live with them.
Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: hillside on July 28, 2011, 13:43:44 PM
I deperately hope so too. I'm sure the McCanns regret every second of every day their decision that night and agree with Elaina, very few of us are perfect, but most of us don't suffer as the McCann's have from their mistake
Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: pookie on July 28, 2011, 15:18:51 PM
I can't help wondering that if it is Madelaine, how on earth she will re-establish herself within the family unit.  She has spent more time apart from her parents than with.......I'm wonder what memories she will have of her home, her parents and her siblings...
Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: Scunner on July 28, 2011, 16:54:50 PM
There is an overlap with this topic and another currently running - the one that is discussing taking kids out with you to restaurants and allowing them to fall asleep. Our kids loved eating out (they still do) and in Turkey waiters used to put two chairs together and they'd sleep comfortably while we carried on our evening with friends. Never once could we consider waiting till they were asleep then sneaking out to a bar or restaurant and checking on them regularly. For the record our kids are turning out just great, no scars from this irresponsible parenting are evident  ;)

I do hope that it is her for the mental burden to be lifted, even if their actions on that holiday were difficult to comprehend - but the most incomprehensible part of it all to me is why two people, working very long hours, didn't want to eat with their kids on one of the few opportunities they would have to spend quality leisure time together. I used to work away a few nights every week and really looked forward to us going away and sharing nice meals in nice restaurants with the kids. On holiday I'd rather not go out than go without them.

Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: Liz 101 on July 28, 2011, 17:08:15 PM
Please spare a thought also for the family of Ben Needham, who went missing on Kos, 20 years ago this week
Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: Highlander on July 28, 2011, 17:40:35 PM
Yes Liz we should.
Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: usedbustickets on July 28, 2011, 20:15:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Highlander

At the risk of rekindling this emotive topic on here part of the report quotes Mrs McCann as saying

"She also believes the man who snatched her daughter may have gone to the holiday flat the night before but fled after being disturbed."

OH really !!!!! - and you still thought it was ok to leave your three childern alone the very following night. AGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

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H you aint wrong on this one.  The McCann's are held up as practically model parent by a number of people, and I've never understood it.  It's not about the benefit of hindsight, it's about things that you never do as a parent.  Leaving your young kids alone while you go out is wrong, wrong, wrong.  I bet if some mother on a council estate had done the same thing, going down the chippy or some sort, the daily mail and all theother tabloids would have, rightly, blamed the mother, and ensured their life was for ever a misery ... but not the McCanns they have practically been beatified:-\

Once again it's the child who gets all my thoughts, not the stupid parents.
Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on July 28, 2011, 20:25:27 PM
We never left our kids alone when we went on holiday.  Once in Majorca we paid a babysitter who was from the nursery on the site we were on.  She sat with the kids.  I still could not settle to enjoy myself and we rushed back early only to find the girl reading and the kids fast asleep.
Apparently, there was a similar baby sitting service at this place in Portugal but the did not use it.  They had left the kids with the doors and windows open each evening, but so had the others in their group.  However, they have now suffered so much for what they did and I suppose they go over it in their minds all the time, so time to forgive, they made a terrrible mistake which  they pay for every day, their lives are in ruin.
Lets hope Madeleine is found safe and well.
Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: Highlander on July 28, 2011, 20:50:39 PM
Leaving three young children on their own should never, ever be termed a mistake. It was, remains and always will be a deliberate act and as such should, in my opinion, be tested against what constitutes criminal negligence, gross or otherwise.

And I don't accept the hindsight defence. Brenda and I didn't need hindsight to tell us that we shouldn't let our kids play near a 300m sheer drop or let them play with fire in exactly the same way that we didn't need hindsight to tell us that it would have been totally irresponsible to leave them alone in an apartment.

I also hope that the little girl is found. But I cannot comprehend what she may have been through in the last four years:(.  
Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: Anne on July 28, 2011, 22:27:27 PM
Agree 100% John, well said
Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: desmartinson on July 29, 2011, 07:21:30 AM
Spot on John.
Title: Madelaine McCann
Post by: crystalgirl on July 30, 2011, 06:41:14 AM
It really is so sad, I so hope they can find her, but it will get more difficult as she gets older.  Thankfuly girsl don't change as much as boys.  Poor little Madie xx