Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Calis Beach Questions and Information => Topic started by: yasemin3 on August 03, 2011, 19:53:47 PM
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Our family would like to spend next year in Turkey, the Fethiye area. Wanted to do it this summer but didn't and I regret it very much. The preferred outcome - our youngest daughter will improve her Turkish. (she listens and understands but answers in English!) One issue - we are not independently wealthy and would need jobs. Is there anyone hiring out there?? We are both professionals but know that being used to working in the UK, we would not be in similar roles but it doesn't matter, we simply want to give our daughter the opportunity. Any good leads would appreciated.
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It is almost impossible to get a work permit in Turkey
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Very hard to work here unless you are a Turkish citizen - even then jobs are hard to come by - maybe some summer work in a hotel or bar. As a foreigner very hard to get legal work. If you work illegally and are caught you can be deported if you are here on a tourist visa and banned from returning for up to 5 years. If you have residency you probably won;t be deported but you could face a large fine and it would affect any future application for residency or citizenship. If you work illegally and don't get caught you run the risk of not getting paid, or dismissal with no notice - you will have no chance of getting any monies owed as you cannot report them as you are working illegally and will be in more trouble than the employer. Sorry to paint such a bleak picture but better that you know how it is than come here thinking you will be able to find work easily.
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What about starting your own company< is that just as bad?
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Possibly worse!
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Originally posted by Scunner
Possibly worse!
Even with a company you are not allowed to work or run it yourself
Dont even think about trying to come to work here unless you can set yourself up with a job with work permit etc before you come
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And with a company, you are responsible for the monthly administrative/municipal costs of running it, even AFTER you have had enough and stopped trading. In other words, unless you can sell the company/company name on, you aren't allowed to help it make money but you are responsible for paying the money that owning a company in Turkey causes!
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Thanks for responding. We don't need work permits, all in hand, we are dual citizens. Really we are just looking for gainful employment to keep us buoyant while we are there. The aim of the exercise would be to allow our youngest to attend nursery for the summer to give an immersion in her other language, she is not at ease, she understands and responds non verbally, but we want her to be comfortable to speak and are starting to feel that immersion would be the best thing. When we are over for 2 / 3 weeks she picks up lots but then a couple of weeks back in the UK, it gets all forgotten.
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Ok But No there arent many jobs here Unless you want to be a waiter on commission only
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In recent years the noble world of estate and builders would snap up dual nationals but those days are probably gone now. With local jobs you do run the very real risk of not being paid - I remember one company that used to take staff on with a month's trial - at the end of the month, sorry not suitable and the month's wages never materialise. Once that candidate is gone mug B does their month and so it goes on - full time staff and it doesn't cost a penny.
That might leave you with national/international employers which in Fethiye tends to point to the tour operators. Terrible hours, long hours, hard work, idiots to look after, but at least you get paid. Good luck with it, I hope you get sorted.
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haha, I don't think you would want me to serve you dinner, too slow! It is a poor situation, probably and it is such a long time since we lived in Turkey that it has all changed so much and we no longer know the lay of the land.
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Originally posted by Scunner
In recent years the noble world of estate and builders would snap up dual nationals but those days are probably gone now. With local jobs you do run the very real risk of not being paid - I remember one company that used to take staff on with a month's trial - at the end of the month, sorry not suitable and the month's wages never materialise. Once that candidate is gone mug B does their month and so it goes on - full time staff and it doesn't cost a penny.
That might leave you with national/international employers which in Fethiye tends to point to the tour operators. Terrible hours, long hours, hard work, idiots to look after, but at least you get paid. Good luck with it, I hope you get sorted.
It hasn't changed since we lived there, then, all the same things went on. I remember doing transfers for first choice and the drunk bus driver knocking a dog over and all the tourists screaming on the bus. Such fun, I won't be doing that again! Still, would like my girl to speak so if can't find suitable something or other, it looks like saving and budgeting.
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yasemin3 - forgive me, but if you lived in Turkey previously didn't you know the rules/pitfalls of looking for work[?]
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There are jobs going if you are happy to accept Turkish wages.
Carole and Tayfun employ people to sell their trips on the daily boat trips and these are commission only jobs but you do get paid daily after the initial trial period which is just for a few days.
This can be quite profitable and a rota system ensures everyone get a turn on the bigger boats and you needn't work everyday either so some flexibility there too.
Carole on the wedding side has advertised for a wedding organiser at the beginning of the season for the past two years so that job may well come up again. Other places to consider are Sugar Beach in Oludeniz - they have a wedding planner and have employed English staff there in the past.
Tour operators like TC and TUI are always looking to employ transfer reps - legally these days.
And there may be the odd restaurant looking to employ someone with good English next year, the hours are long but the tips are great!
Also if you can work legally then maybe some of the childcare facilities might be a good option particularly if you are planning to place your daughter in one of them.
If you want work something out there will be right for you but it does help to be here early enough before the season starts to get a head start with applications.
Good luck with your search :)
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At the start of the season there are always companies looking for English speaking staff, probably just summer only. Best way to find a job is to call in to places with a CV, I think you will get one quite easily if you dont have to worry about a work visa, good luck :)
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Don't bother emailing your c.v. though, as no-one comes back to you
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Originally posted by Highlander
yasemin3 - forgive me, but if you lived in Turkey previously didn't you know the rules/pitfalls of looking for work[?]
Hi Highlander, Yes I am well aware of the pitfalls (although as I said, I am very out of date and not up to scratch on current practices). That is why my original post said any leads appreciated, or whatever I said first. I wasn't needing advice on the pitfalls really, just if anyone knows of any good leads for employment, it would be welcome.
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Originally posted by nichola
There are jobs going if you are happy to accept Turkish wages.
Carole and Tayfun employ people to sell their trips on the daily boat trips and these are commission only jobs but you do get paid daily after the initial trial period which is just for a few days.
This can be quite profitable and a rota system ensures everyone get a turn on the bigger boats and you needn't work everyday either so some flexibility there too.
Carole on the wedding side has advertised for a wedding organiser at the beginning of the season for the past two years so that job may well come up again. Other places to consider are Sugar Beach in Oludeniz - they have a wedding planner and have employed English staff there in the past.
Tour operators like TC and TUI are always looking to employ transfer reps - legally these days.
And there may be the odd restaurant looking to employ someone with good English next year, the hours are long but the tips are great!
Also if you can work legally then maybe some of the childcare facilities might be a good option particularly if you are planning to place your daughter in one of them.
If you want work something out there will be right for you but it does help to be here early enough before the season starts to get a head start with applications.
Good luck with your search :)
Nicola, thanks for this post, very informative. I will save this info.
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Sometimes they have vacancies on this site http://www.lol-classifieds.com/0/posts/18-Careers-Jobs/
Same ones seem to crop up each year :)
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Noticed in the "Land of Lights" jobs page recently a couple of carers jobs in the Fethiye area assisting elderly British people in their homes, I think they were asking for a NVQ2 caring qualification though ?.
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thanks booo, had a peek and worth keeping.
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Originally posted by valleyboy
Noticed in the "Land of Lights" jobs page recently a couple of carers jobs in the Fethiye area assisting elderly British people in their homes, I think they were asking for a NVQ2 caring qualification though ?.
That's great, I'm a senior nurse manager in real life, might be worth a look early next year.
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You may want to contact the hospitals here too then - there could be any number of jobs you could do there.
The Land of Lights and Sun Express both have a jobs section - they also have web sites and these jobs may be listed online too.
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You can't help feeling though, that facts like having dual nationality and being a senior nurse manager would have been helpful to responders if they had been mentioned in the opening post.
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It's definitely a whole different ball game if you can legally work due to dual nationality... and if you have specific skills too that is a definite advantage.
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Yes and that is why not mentioning them in the first place is rather odd. This 3 page topic spent 1.5 pages+ without that information even being offered!!