Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Eric on October 25, 2011, 15:51:54 PM
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Did you know this?
In 1727, Thomas Rawlinson, an immigrant Lancastrian ironworks owner, wanted a more practical outfit for his Scottish furnace workers than the traditional native dress — a long, flapping, pleated cloak.
The shortened, skirt-like result was safe and comfortable in the heat of the works.
Kilts became a national symbol only when the English banned them after the Scots tried to depose George II in the Jacobite Rising of 1745.
They became associated with the cause of Scottish pretender Bonnie Prince Charlie.
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Eric - I got in terrible trouble on here years ago claiming a number of things that had been invented by Scotsman, so I am probably on dangerson ground but....
http://www.thekilter.co.uk/kiltfacts.php
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Not bad Eric only about 1500years out.
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Originally posted by ronzeus
Not bad Eric only about 1500years out.
In fairness, did the English not own Scotland then though? ;):D
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In fairness, did the English not own Scotland then though? ;):D
The English weren't even created/invented till 500 years later.
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Sounded good at the time ;):D: :)
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Continuing on this general theme, the Irish, I believe, invented the bagpipes!
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Originally posted by Highlander
Eric - I got in terrible trouble on here years ago claiming a number of things that had been invented by Scotsman, so I am probably on dangerous ground but....
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Here's the post I got shot down on and I also got a deal amount of grief for the font I used back then. People said they could read it. :o
{A Link to an old CBF topic was here - no longer available}12886
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Originally posted by usedbustickets
Continuing on this general theme, the Irish, I believe, invented the bagpipes!
Nah! much older, they originate from the Middle East probably brought into Europe by the Greeks or Romans....
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On the subject of kilts. They are so "with it" and popular now, everyone man seems to want to wear them, whether they are Scottish or not. Each time I go to an Oil Company Dinner Dance I see so many non Scots men in kilts. Last dinner I was sat next to a Dutch guy who lookd so good in his kilt and velvet jacket. He told me he loved the kilt so much he had bought the enter outfit. Also at the dinner an India gentlemen in the kilt and an Oriental man.
I have always tried to get my husband to wear a kilt, he is Irish but I have explained he could wear an Irish kilt, but he is reluctant. However, next year at my Son's Wedding my husband, at last, has agreed to wear a kilt, as my son and his friends will be doing so... I cannot wait.
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Originally posted by philrose
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Originally posted by usedbustickets
Continuing on this general theme, the Irish, I believe, invented the bagpipes!
Nah! much older, they originate from the Middle East probably brought into Europe by the Greeks or Romans....
Well OK then, apart from the bagpipes and Hadrian's Wall what have the Romans ever done for the Scots? ;)
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Originally posted by Jacqui Harvey
However, next year at my Son's Wedding my husband, at last, has agreed to wear a kilt, as my son and his friends will be doing so... I cannot wait.
Jacqui - you are of course correct that anyone can look good in a kilt. That's Tashin, who worked at Letoon and although he denied wanting to, loved trying the kilt..
I couple of suggestions if I may. Firstly, have your husband, son and guests avoid the full rig out - even in September it will be uncomfortable to wear in the heat. I would suggest lightweight kilts for the same reason and also the full rig out will be quite a weight. And secondly, take a taxi home. When I wore the kilt to a wedding in Calis it took me ages to get home because lots of restaurant and bar staff wanted to try it on.
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q214/highlander_010/tashin.jpg)
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Originally posted by Highlander
When I wore the kilt to a wedding in Calis it took me ages to get home because lots of restaurant and bar staff wanted to try it on.
Well, you know what these Turkish waiters are like; try it on with anything in a skirt.
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:D:D:D
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Thanks H, They are not wearing the full outfit and are looking at getting lightweight kilts.
I have to agree that a man in a kilt does look really good.
Just in case the guys don't want to go commando I suggested the following, but they don't seem keen.
Not for children or those easily offended... but quite funny.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MENS-TARTAN-KILT-POUCH-ST-ANDREWS-DAY-BURNS-NIGHT-/180736554397?pt=UK_Men_s_Underwear&hash=item2a14bcf59d
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Why does the location of Kent not surprise me:(
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Self indulgent - yes, I'm afraid so but here's me and my mate. Oh and the present Mrs H
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q214/highlander_010/musti.jpg)
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Originally posted by Highlander
Why does the location of Kent not surprise me:(
H, It's a sad fact that everything traditional from Scotland, is not always made in Scotland. I have a friend who makes lovely tartan dresses, wraps, evening bags. She makes to order and her products are all pure silk tartan. She has a large swatch book to look through to choose a tartan. She has made for some famous Scots including a Scottish Singer who wore one of her outfits to sing at the Carnegie Hall. I got her to make a Mackay tartan wrap for me last Burn's night which was very much admired. The sad fact here is, all the tartan silk material is ordered directly from China. My friend cannot find a Scottish stockist for these silk tartans.:(
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Jacqui - I am delighted that the garment illustrated in your link is not made in Scotland.
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Me too!!