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Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: Scunner on January 03, 2012, 17:13:13 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16347953

Justice eventually. RIP Stephen.
Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: mike A on January 03, 2012, 17:23:28 PM
And about time too
 8)
Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: Highlander on January 03, 2012, 17:25:15 PM
Hope the verdict sticks. They are bound to appeal.
Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: KKOB on January 03, 2012, 17:41:52 PM
It'll be interesting to see what the minimum recommended tariff is going to be when they're sentenced tomorrow.
Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: Scunner on January 03, 2012, 17:46:41 PM
Currently time held on remand counts double and is taken off the sentence handed down. Perhaps to keep everything fair, time evaded should count double too - so 36 years could be added to whatever they get tomorrow.
Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: patrice on January 03, 2012, 18:01:40 PM
At long last Justice[^]
Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: Fran on January 03, 2012, 19:09:08 PM
As far as I,m aware remand time is not counted as double. If you have been on remand for 30 days then this is what is taken from your overall sentence.They deserve to be inside for the rest of their lives.
Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: legless on January 03, 2012, 19:12:34 PM
Dobson is already serving 5yrs for supply illegal substance.

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Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: GordonA on January 03, 2012, 20:10:01 PM
At Her Majesty's Pleasure, they were juveniles at the time of the offence, and must be sentenced as such. I Googled it !! [:(!][:(!]
Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: poppy50 on January 04, 2012, 19:28:42 PM
Hi
'Using rules that applied when crime was committed, judge sentences David Norris to 14 years, three months and Gary Dobson to 15 years, two months'.  Another 3 still free.

Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: mercury on January 05, 2012, 09:56:30 AM
The police have apparantly got some new information regarding the other three. The police have had at least 5 phone calls but there are a lot of idiots out there. Lets hope that at least one of them is a genuine. It seems that this was the last chance that forensic evidence is going to be found to convict the others.
Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: laffa on January 06, 2012, 22:46:58 PM
Yes, I read that here Mercury, they will get whats coming to them, and I hope they do.
Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: Janice1971 on January 07, 2012, 09:13:28 AM
My guess is that the two that have gone down for this are gonna grass on the rest of the group especially as they are looking to increase their sentences, they will probably spill the beans to save themselves, its not actually guaranteed that the ones that have been sent to prison were the ones who stabbed Stephen, as far as Im concerned thay should spend the rest of their lives inside!
Title: Pair Guilty of Stephen Lawrence Murder
Post by: corbindallas on January 07, 2012, 09:33:22 AM
As a former officer in the Met it saddens me to think that a lot of this may have been prevented if the original investigation was carried out correctly. Thankfully we also have the added bonus of scientific evidence to prove cases now beyond doubt which obviously was not as advanced when the murder took place, however it does still seem incredulous that the legal justice system is so spiked in favour of the wrong doer than the victim. I appreciate a lot is to do with preventing miscarriage of justice but I could write a book on the cases and cases that get of because of technicalities and the sort which have nothing to do with the facts or real case, someone is clearly guilty of the crime and time and time again they get away with it through this burecratic red tape that is so intwined that even the governement cannot sort it out even if they wanted to. I really hope they throw whatever book they can against the lazy corrupt officers involved as I know a lot of officers are, were fed up being tarred with the same brush! One direct positive to come out of all this was the introduction of (PACE) Police & Criminal Evidence Act which governs the way cases are handled and recorded etc and this was as a direct consequence of the Stephen Lawrence murder.