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Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Highlander on January 22, 2012, 23:51:32 PM
I am sick fed up of hearing that Balotelli is being picked on by officials.

His stamp on Scott Parker was assault pure and simple (and yes, the wasn't the only one over the weekend).

So what should his punishment be.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Scunner on January 22, 2012, 23:53:55 PM
Cantona got 4 months for kicking someone inside a football ground. So the answer is 4 months.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: kenkay on January 23, 2012, 00:52:39 AM
John, I can't see the connection between racism and an alleged stamp.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: stoop on January 23, 2012, 02:54:50 AM
My guess is 4 games - IF the ref didn't deal with it at the time. The rules seem to change according to the club.

As for that bad tempered little twonk - I would send him back to where he came from.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Sus on January 23, 2012, 03:26:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kenkay

John, I can't see the connection between racism and an alleged stamp.



Maybe because one is white and the other one deeply tanned.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: shuttle on January 23, 2012, 08:11:21 AM
Balotelli is a talent but always comes onto the pitch
with anger in his face and looking for trouble.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Highlander on January 23, 2012, 11:01:06 AM
Ken

The FA want to stamp out racism in football and therefore imposed a hefty ban on Suarez. I'm suggesting that they take a similarly firm stance on violent assaults and give Balotelli a length ban.

Incidently there is no doubt in my mind that it was a deliberate act. His right leg was travelling forwards in the same direction as his left until the decided to change it. Then, he had the temerity to jump forwards extravagantly. Pathetic.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: quackers on January 23, 2012, 13:44:25 PM
I agree and had he been sent off Tottenham (My Team) would not have had a penalty against them and would have drawn the match. I think he always looks angry and ready for a fight and after an incident very cocky about it, but he is talented. Maybe he needs an anger management course.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: DANKY on January 23, 2012, 14:23:00 PM
My teenage  son who plays a high standard of football said to me last night ‘dad cheats do prosper don't they' I asked him why he thought that  and he said  â€˜because if Man City win the League by 3 points who cares if it was for cheating they will all get a big bonuses and have a premiership winners medal and no one in Manchester city football club will care when they are the English Champions,the way they won it as long as they did.
I feel that if kids are thinking this then its time to start docking points rather than banning the individuals,
Then you get the City management team saying 'they did not see it and have not watched the  tv replays yet' funny how they never fail to watch the replays when its to there advantage at the press interviews.
Some of these footballers of today do not realise that millions of kids watch football and they are portraying that cheating actually is ok,
There was two disgraceful incidents in that game yesterday Lescotts  punch was missed by the ref as well.
Why o why do we not have a 4th official looking at TV replays?
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: ronzeus on January 23, 2012, 14:44:00 PM
He is a disgrace,nothing but a thug,i remember Duncan Ferguson getting banged up for 6 months for nutting a Raith Rovers player,this was every bit as bad.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: scorcher on January 23, 2012, 17:38:58 PM
Spot on Danky - well stated !
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Scunner on January 23, 2012, 17:57:55 PM
Yes well said Danky - it's such a shame that your son was absolutely correct. It is also baffling how us 'normal' people get a completely different set of rules in life. If I worked in Tesco and kicked someone in the head I would not be suspended for a few weeks, or fined what would be a tiny percentage of a week's wages - I would be dismissed, taken to court and possibly imprisoned - also meaning I would find alternative employment very difficult to find. Not so for these people - no matter what Ballotelli involves himself in his job security is never affected - there was never any question about Joey Barton being left without a job no matter what thuggish behaviour he involved himself throughout his career. That's a very strong indication that they can do what they like and nothing much happens - so why worry about it.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Highlander on January 23, 2012, 19:31:18 PM
I trust that Roberto Mancini will stop waving imaginary cards for awhile.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: tinkerman on January 23, 2012, 19:40:38 PM
he has now been charged with violent conduct
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Scunner on January 23, 2012, 19:46:15 PM
Not by the police though
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Highlander on January 23, 2012, 19:50:46 PM
Borrowed nicked from elsewhere.

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q214/highlander_010/common/balotelli.jpg)
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Sus on January 24, 2012, 02:49:52 AM
He has got four weeks.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: desmartinson on January 24, 2012, 07:21:43 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kenkay

John, I can't see the connection between racism and an alleged stamp.

Alleged stamp Ken[?] you didnt see it then, what would you say he was doing? feeling his face with his studs.:-\
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: kenkay on January 24, 2012, 09:29:45 AM
Yeah i saw it and I agreed with Stuart Pearce on MOTD2.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: karaokemark on January 24, 2012, 09:51:51 AM
The FA should look at Lescott as well. This is the only way to stop players cheating if they know they will get retrospective punishments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43EZsEWdlNQ

Mark
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: desmartinson on January 24, 2012, 10:41:04 AM
Didnt see MOTD Ken, what did Stuart Pearce say?
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Scunner on January 24, 2012, 11:09:30 AM
I did see MOTD2 Des and I don't recall seeing Stuart Pearce on it! I must concentrate more.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: desmartinson on January 24, 2012, 11:23:45 AM
Oh well perhaps Ken will let us all know Keith :)
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: martinp2502 on January 24, 2012, 13:28:51 PM
The FA will have let him off as they have no proof he did it deliberately just from TV footage, and as they thought this wasn't an offence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8V845zmQbQ

how can they ban Balotelli?
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Highlander on January 24, 2012, 13:41:19 PM
The TV footage is all the proof I need.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: kenkay on January 24, 2012, 16:23:03 PM
I meant the one who isn't Alan Hansen  ;) can't remember his name tho I thought I had  ;) 8) (He also isn't that Irish twerp) 8)
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Highlander on January 24, 2012, 18:19:43 PM
Lee Dixon Ken :)
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Highlander on January 24, 2012, 19:30:22 PM
Apparently Balotelli's agent has said (threatened) that his man may leave England if he continues to receive the same treatment from referees.

TAXI..... and arrivederci pal.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: laffa on January 24, 2012, 20:47:43 PM
Big difference between Bolotelli and Suarez, that was a blatant assault from Balotelli and he should be punished accordingly, its put me off him now, Suarez has accepted his punishment for using the word negrito, because he did use it, not because there was any malice behind it, Its a bit like some of us calling people EPKHs, because they are, not because we mean them any harm,  ;)
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: kenkay on January 24, 2012, 22:06:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Highlander

Lee Dixon Ken :)

Thanks John, I knew he had a name  ;)
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 24, 2012, 23:13:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by laffa

Big difference between Bolotelli and Suarez, that was a blatant assault from Balotelli and he should be punished accordingly, its put me off him now, Suarez has accepted his punishment for using the word negrito, because he did use it, not because there was any malice behind it, Its a bit like some of us calling people EPKHs, because they are, not because we mean them any harm,  ;)



Interesting to note that Suarez's Grandfather was a Negritto
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Highlander on January 25, 2012, 08:20:57 AM
Jacqui - can you give us a little more detail please on Suarez's grandfather being a negrito
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Scunner on January 25, 2012, 09:46:07 AM
Stop picking on Bartotelli, he might quit if everyone keeps persecuting him

Mario Balotelli's agent has warned the striker could quit English football if he continues to receive what he sees as unfair treatment"

Nobody else gets in trouble for deliberately kicking a fellow professional in the head!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16711526.stm
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 25, 2012, 11:35:04 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Highlander

Jacqui - can you give us a little more detail please on Suarez's grandfather being a negrito



Suarez's Grandfather is/was a black man (not sure if he is still alive or not) Liverpool issued a statement which claimed the club was "very surprised and disappointed" at the ban, highlighted that the player was not accused of being racist, and cited Suarez's mixed race family background, as well as his involvement with multicultural projects
One of Suarez's Uruguayan team mates who is black said he, (the friend,) is called this word all the time in Uruguay and he just laughs as it's not insulting.  He is also one of Suarez's best friends and is upset by what has happened to Suarez.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: karaokemark on January 25, 2012, 14:18:24 PM
I think he is mis-understood and did not do this on purpose either

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/24/luis-suarez-ban-biting-opponent

Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: laffa on January 25, 2012, 22:49:15 PM
Hate you to think a non reply was a submission of touche on your part, I just think to compare this incident does not warrant a response, We could all  bring incidents up from 2010 from foreign clubs if we could remember them,
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 25, 2012, 23:16:48 PM
Yes, Cantona once karate kicked a member of the crowd at a match.  Does this mean he now cannot be President of France?
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Scunner on January 26, 2012, 00:04:29 AM
Does Suarez want to be President? :D
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 26, 2012, 09:33:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

Does Suarez want to be President? :D



Well I would nominate him and I am sure Laffa and Puma would give him a vote. Once Liverpool have followed Scotland and got it's freedom I am sure he has a good chance of being First Minister of Scouse Land if he keeps playing as well as he has in the past ;)[:o)]:P
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: laffa on January 27, 2012, 00:24:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

Does Suarez want to be President? :D


Nahh Keith, they're all actors anyway. ;)
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: desmartinson on January 27, 2012, 07:07:37 AM
Id nominate Torres, he could just sit on the back bench and break wind now and then to let people know he is still about and getting his wages. ;) :)
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: tony on February 01, 2012, 16:14:56 PM
While people like Rooney are spending money on prostitutes old enough to be his mother Harry Redknapp as been cheating you and me by avoiding paying tax and Ryan Giggs as been screwing his brothers wife. Mario Balotelli was funding the rehabilitation of Sudanese child soldiers and funding two schools in the Sudan. The guy apologised and showed concern for Scott Parker. No one on the pitch or off it at the time complained. It was only when Sky Sport had it on a contiual supper slo-mo loop adn Uncle Harry (not waving a red card) called for his pound of flesh. Im not saying it was intentional if it was it was bad. However trial by media is just as ugly.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Highlander on February 01, 2012, 16:32:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tony
1
Harry Redknapp as been cheating you and me by avoiding paying tax


2
No one on the pitch or off it at the time complained.

1.Allegedly and


2. Scott Parker wasn't too happy about it
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Scunner on February 01, 2012, 16:34:59 PM
And it's hardly worth anything to be sorry when you can't admit it was intentional. It was intentional.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: tony on February 01, 2012, 16:47:49 PM
1. You wanna Bet.

2. Scott Parker never complained

3.Balotelli wasnt given the luxury of a fair hearing. on the evidence shown no proof of intention.

4.If I unintentionally bumped into you or happen to stamp on you even if it were not my fault I would automatically apologise, as people do.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Scunner on February 01, 2012, 16:50:29 PM
No proof of intention? I take it you must be a City fan!
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on February 01, 2012, 17:20:35 PM
Balotelli is not the only one who helps children in Africa
On 6 May 2008 plans were announced for the building of the Craig Bellamy Foundation for disadvantaged children in Freetown, Sierra Leone. Bellamy has visited the war-torn West African country and has invested £1.2m of his own money since 2007 to help build a not-for-profit football academy in the Kono region and, along with Unicef, a national league in a country where the existing top-flight league has been suspended due to lack of funds.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Highlander on February 01, 2012, 17:30:07 PM
There's none so blind as those who will not see. There is not a shadow of doubt that it was intentional.

Why is it that football "fans" insist on trying to defend the indefensible when their club or player are involved and yet if it were another club they would be baying for blood:(.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: ronzeus on February 01, 2012, 21:23:47 PM
Bring back Webbstar, :D even he wouldnt have made that comment Tony.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: tony on February 02, 2012, 09:16:26 AM
No mention of Cabayes kick in the face?.........Oh Its a Balotelli thing I almost forgot.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Scunner on February 02, 2012, 09:33:48 AM
Well the topic is about Balotelli, maybe that's why?  ;)
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: tony on February 02, 2012, 11:51:00 AM
Topic is a comparison between Suarez and Balotelli I was merely expanding the subject to include the comparison with others. Jacqui you are quite right about Craig, he is doing a fine job and this reflects well on him as a person. Of course this wouldnt sell newspapers and therefore a little known fact unlike his antics with a golf club. My only point is try not to judge a person entirely on how the media may portray them.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: Scunner on February 02, 2012, 12:05:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tony

try not to judge a person entirely on how the media may portray them.


Good point. I'm judging him entirely on that thing I saw when he intentionally kicked another person in the head.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: tony on February 02, 2012, 12:58:17 PM
I accept your view. however I saw a player off balance after taking a shot on goal, whos left ankle was skewed other foot off the ground and being pushed by Modrich, attempting to regain his balance. I also saw a player being subjected to trial by media on the insistance of Mr Redknapp (who earlier on in the week had accused Mr Mancini of waving imaginary red cards).
I also saw the super slow motion of the event played continually on sky news (my point benig that physical interchanges between two people tend to look more sinister than they actually are a technique used in the cinema industry by such as Sam Pekinpah . I did also see Graham Poll say that no intention could be determined, and he also added that in the unlikely event of any criminal prosecution the player would almost certainly have no case to answer.  
Balotelli is an headstrong youngster, talented yes, but being headstrong and talented, In my eyes doesnt deserve the public scorn that he now faces.
Also if I may add this was a single incident during the game, I am led to believe that Mr Suarez continually racially abused the player throughout the game I guess this was intentional, hence the receipt of an eight match ban.
Racial abuse is an ugly thing in any walk of life and cannot be tolerated. It needs to be stamped out.
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: desmartinson on February 02, 2012, 13:24:30 PM
Then Balotelli seems to be just the guy to get to stamp it out then Tony ;)
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: tony on February 02, 2012, 13:50:07 PM
Aye you lot wouldnt be winding me up........would you?
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: ronzeus on February 02, 2012, 17:29:33 PM
Not winding you up at all Tony ,but please give your guide dog a pat from me.  :)
Title: Suarez got 8 weeks - how many for Balotelli
Post by: tony on February 03, 2012, 07:45:52 AM
Dooooooooooh............Sorry Mario, I tried!