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Other Local Resorts & Areas => Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum => Topic started by: mercury on January 26, 2012, 13:24:46 PM

Title: Sun Dial
Post by: mercury on January 26, 2012, 13:24:46 PM: There has been a big landslide at The Sundial due to the large amount of rain in the last 2 weeks. We wish him well. Looks like its gonna be a big shoring up job. All our best Murat. Pictures are on facebook butI dont know how to put them on here.
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Post by: Highlander on January 26, 2012, 13:33:49 PM: Where are they on fb mercury ?
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Post by: Robw on January 26, 2012, 13:43:20 PM: Sundial has posted the pic John, its not looking good!
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Post by: Linda on January 26, 2012, 13:59:10 PM: I too have seen ths pics on Facebook Anne .. absolutely terrible. the photos are on Murat's FB page. I'm not sure if these links will work:
https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=10150522083924755&set=a.47018789754.58307.666289754&type=1&theater
https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=10150522082839755&set=a.47018789754.58307.666289754&type=1&theater
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Post by: Scunner on January 26, 2012, 14:06:15 PM: (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/426117_10150522083924755_666289754_8927752_1723216114_n.jpg)

Looks awful - stay safe Murat and all there :(
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Post by: Scunner on January 26, 2012, 14:07:55 PM: Retaining Wall sadly lacking

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/407349_10150522082839755_666289754_8927749_1191933366_n.jpg)
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Post by: Linda on January 26, 2012, 14:10:08 PM: Thanks Scunner and yes good luck to Murat and all at Sundial!
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Post by: Scunner on January 26, 2012, 14:12:17 PM: That wall actually looks like it might be concrete block?? Surely not??!!
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Post by: Scunner on January 26, 2012, 14:23:19 PM: Murat's page is here: https://www.facebook.com/sundialotel?sk=wall
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Post by: pookie on January 26, 2012, 14:43:36 PM: How awful. Good luck Murat and team :( Hugs from the Pookies
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Post by: kenkay on January 26, 2012, 15:59:07 PM: Looks like piling is gonna be required. Hope then can stand the expense. At least everyone is safe. Hope they all stay that way.
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Post by: Scunner on January 26, 2012, 16:32:27 PM: Another shocking photo from Facebook

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425635_10150522570894755_666289754_8929016_339040388_n.jpg)
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Post by: Rimms on January 26, 2012, 16:46:09 PM: I hope his insurance covers this. its going to be expensive to put right.
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Post by: Scunner on January 26, 2012, 16:57:01 PM: He'll need a retaining wall this time - how was that ever going to prevent this?
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Post by: valleyboy on January 26, 2012, 18:10:48 PM: How terrible, hope everyone is ok; that "retaining wall" (and I say that with tongue in cheek) is totally inadequate for that construction, it does indeed appear to be rendered block work from the photographs ??. Looks a very expensive problem to correct, hope everything turns out ok for Murat and his family :(
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Post by: tinkerman on January 26, 2012, 18:24:17 PM: problem being its still raining so could get worse before we know the full extent of damage done.
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Post by: KKOB on January 26, 2012, 18:36:19 PM: quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

That wall actually looks like it might be concrete block?? Surely not??!!

Lego maybe ?
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Post by: tinkerman on January 26, 2012, 18:56:11 PM: Turkish Lego at that
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Post by: mercury on January 27, 2012, 11:38:04 AM: No one in this area has been prepared for the amount of rain that we have had. It has never been as bad as this. There has been some terrible damage around Koca Calis and Ciflik area. The land at the Sun Dial has been safe for years and years but it just couldnt cope with this. I fell sorry for the new builds down below. I wonder how much water they have in them. Forecast for next week is more rain and on Saturday lots of rain and very cold.
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Post by: GordonA on January 27, 2012, 17:19:45 PM: Mercury, it may not have rained as much as the recent deluges in the time you have lived there, but, the natives will certainly have had experience of this severity in the past. Why, Oh Why, are they allowed to make such dangerous constructions? Looking at the remains of the "retaining" wall, ( which obviously didn't retain, ) even if it had been built using poured, reinforced concrete, those totally inefficient buttresses, which stopped part-way up the outside of the wall, would NEVER have been sufficient to hold back the hydraulic pressure which obviously built up behind it. There is NO substitute for good old Clerks of Works, ever.
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Post by: mercury on January 27, 2012, 18:22:18 PM: The locals say it is ten years since it was so bad. I have every sympathy for him and the ones who have property in Koca Calis and Ciflik who have homes with 3 feet of sludgy water in them and are surrounded by a man made lake. Not just this area either. Bodrum. Icmeler, Kusadasi and Koycegiz are a hell of a state.
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Post by: Scunner on January 27, 2012, 18:32:22 PM: One thing to ponder is that it was obviously not fit for the purpose - but not due to the possibility of huge water pressure (although that obviously was the cause here) - seeing the photos I am stunned that an earth tremor didn't cause something similar - although that would have probably been a swift break of tons of hard dry soil taking the entire wall with it - anyone below or standing at the fence would have been history.
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Post by: Diverbaz 1 on January 27, 2012, 19:50:23 PM: quote:
There is NO substitute for good old Clerks of Works

Couldn't agree more, Baz MICW. ;)
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Post by: micky mouse on January 28, 2012, 19:27:52 PM: Sad to see these photos of the sundial as its my favourite resturant have had many a good time there.I wonder wether it will be up and running for the summer?As a retired builder i would imagine that the work involved will take time and alot of money.
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Post by: Sus on January 29, 2012, 02:51:11 AM: That is just awful, feel so sorry for anyone having this happen to their property, I feel sorry for the people who live below and all the people who have had their houses flooded this year, so sad.
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Post by: Rimms on February 20, 2012, 18:57:36 PM: Amazing how things have moved on

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e249/Rimms/Sundial.jpg)
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Post by: Highlander on February 20, 2012, 19:11:14 PM: Good grief, that's some amount of reinforcement.

PS Hope that photograph isn't taken from the top looking down.
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Post by: Supacabby on February 20, 2012, 21:21:52 PM: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150558303326914.375293.741226913&type=1&l=c26fc0f53c

Thought I'd posted these, senile dementia kicking in already!

1st lot of pics are of the work in progress as of yesterday, 19th Feb.
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Post by: ceni on February 20, 2012, 21:31:12 PM: Looks like they are going to do a proper job of the wall this time....pity they didn't do it the first time seeing how much it was holding up, but T.I.T. :)))
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Post by: Anne on February 20, 2012, 22:31:20 PM: Thanks Rimms, looks like it'll be ready for the begining of the season
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Post by: Toky on February 20, 2012, 22:44:47 PM: Not been to Sundial yet. If I can find it, I'll pay a visit in May. Seems to get nothing but good reviews.
:D
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Post by: puma on February 20, 2012, 22:48:14 PM: great pics brightened up a dull day
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Post by: pookie on February 21, 2012, 08:07:54 AM: Toky - its lovely. Stunning views and a special atmosphere. Hospitality is great - I think you'd like it.
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Post by: lance on February 21, 2012, 09:15:22 AM: If you can find it take there nos with you and ring them it is easier one road has been shut off .
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Post by: Karennina on February 21, 2012, 10:33:01 AM: They used to do a pick up from Calis in fact they may still do so if there are enough people, if I am correct it may have been on certain nights of the week and I think a minimum of 4 or 6 people I would happily make a contribution to the petrol to be picked up to get there well worth a visit :)
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Post by: Steve B on February 27, 2012, 11:27:59 AM: I'm so pleased that the Sundial will be back. We fell in love with this place last year and we were so looking to going back this year.. and now can :)
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Post by: lance on February 27, 2012, 11:36:47 AM: Don't bank on it being open keep your eyes on this site ,if rain keeps up no work ,no grounds at the moment have got an infinity pool now only prob is its downwards 300 ft to the roads below ,when finished very nice plus bigger hope the rain stays away .
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Post by: Rimms on February 27, 2012, 12:26:46 PM: I think you are pretty much done with the rain for this year Lance, I certainly hope so.
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Post by: jonuzumlu on February 27, 2012, 13:25:36 PM: Judging from today's downpour I don't think the rain has entirely disappeared just yet!:( ;)
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Post by: lance on February 27, 2012, 21:37:05 PM: Nor do i and i think there quite a bit more to come the dried up river at catalarik is more like rapids now there are herons and egrets sitting there catching fish .[^]
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Post by: lance on February 27, 2012, 21:51:25 PM: Just checked on last years march /april weather march 13 days rain april 15 days . ;)
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Post by: A-M on March 14, 2012, 21:07:00 PM: Hi does anyone know if Sun Dial is up and running again? I sent a message to Murat via the website but not had a reply as yet? Thanks
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Post by: Highlander on March 14, 2012, 21:16:15 PM: "Borrowed" from facebook - recent I think but not sure.

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q214/highlander_010/calisgen/sundial.jpg)
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Post by: A-M on March 15, 2012, 06:52:54 AM: Thanks Highlander. Not looking likely that we'll be going for dinner this time around :(
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Post by: nichola on March 15, 2012, 08:13:50 AM: When are you coming? You'd be amazed how quickly the Turkish people can turn things around - getting ready for the season is invariably done at the last minute.

That said many places don't open until May for the season.
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Post by: Donna2202 on March 15, 2012, 10:11:36 AM: He's hoping to be ready to re-open on 15th April.
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Post by: A-M on March 16, 2012, 06:47:20 AM: Hi Nichola we're coming over this weekend!
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Post by: A-M on March 16, 2012, 06:48:28 AM: Sorry also meant to say thank you to you Donna!
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Post by: nichola on March 16, 2012, 07:01:26 AM: A-M how long are you here for... :)

10 day forecast is for sunshine but a bit on the nippy side for here 17-19 degrees day time and 7-10 at night times.
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Post by: Toky on March 16, 2012, 08:15:46 AM: Eh, that's a decidely good summer's day for us in Scotland Nicola LOL.
:D
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Post by: nichola on March 16, 2012, 09:10:51 AM: I know hon... there were people bragging about it all over Facebook last week lol ;)
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Post by: philrose on March 23, 2012, 05:53:37 AM: There is an update on the Sundial here...

http://www.turkeysforlife.com/2012/03/sundial-hotel-fethiye-rebirth.html
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Post by: Scunner on March 23, 2012, 09:01:21 AM: It is a remarkable recovery and one that they didn't skimp on (which is so easy over there when it comes to repairing). That truly was a major structural project which must have cost tens of thousands. I wish them the greatest season ever, they deserve some of the other kind of luck now :)
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Post by: philrose on March 23, 2012, 09:31:09 AM: Amazing turn around in such a short time, and to use what was an ufortunate turn of events to an advantage by expanding the place shows what a visionary the guy is. Hope they have a fantastic season..
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Post by: Babadaq Bridge on March 23, 2012, 22:18:14 PM: Wonderful to see how they have rebuilt and even expanded. They deserve every success for the future.
Bridge
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Post by: Toky on April 12, 2012, 18:50:40 PM: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=268566853233814&set=a.101021153321719.1711.101015843322250&type=1&theater

Seems like things are moving on.
:D
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Post by: Rimms on April 13, 2012, 06:42:49 AM: I went up to see Murat yesterday and he tells me they expect to be finished in a week to 10 days depending on the weather, it is truly remarkable what he has achieved up there following the problems.
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Post by: Toky on April 13, 2012, 09:07:46 AM: Amazing when you look at the damage that was done. Tried to find it last year but couldn't. I won't be leaving until I find it in May LOL
:D
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Post by: pookie on April 13, 2012, 09:13:19 AM: Toky : it took us several attempts over several visits to eventually find it !!! Its worth it ! :)
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Post by: Robw on April 13, 2012, 11:27:11 AM: I`m sure Murat offers a free pick up service ;)
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Post by: dagnabbit on July 12, 2012, 14:29:36 PM: hi, is this place up and running now, always fancied a night here, how do you get to it from ovacik please 8)
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Post by: quackers on July 12, 2012, 16:09:30 PM: All up and runnıng and the food ıs stıll wonderful. If there are a few of you rıng hım and he wıll pıck you up.
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Post by: dagnabbit on July 12, 2012, 16:14:54 PM: hi, there will be just 2 of us, is it far from the main road when we get off the dolmus
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Post by: bewva on July 12, 2012, 18:42:04 PM: Dagnabbit, yes it is walkable, I'd guess about 10 mins up a hill.
I would not even consider it between May - Sept because in the heat you will be good for nothing when you get up there.

I would ring Murat at the Sundial I don't know weather he has a minimum no for free pickup. He would possibly be able to fit you in the bus with others from Ovacik.
Its worth the phone call food is excellent
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Post by: dagnabbit on July 12, 2012, 20:20:14 PM: hi again, thanks will give it a go, maybe even a pick up from the main road is possible, is there a website or somewhere i can get his number from. ;)
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Post by: bewva on July 12, 2012, 20:52:50 PM: http://www.sundialotel.com/

TEL : +90 252 611 14 19
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Post by: mercury on July 13, 2012, 09:28:23 AM: It is adviseable to book in advance as Murat has been fully booked every evening for weeks. It is a very busy place which speaks for itself.
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Post by: dagnabbit on July 13, 2012, 15:12:26 PM: many thanks to both of you, will definetly give it a go, we were going to go there last year but never got round to it : :)