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Turkey Related Subjects => Turkey Discussion Forum (Not Calis specifically) => Topic started by: Rimms on July 23, 2012, 08:42:00 AM

Title: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: Rimms on July 23, 2012, 08:42:00 AM
I was really surprised how many people visit France and just how far down the list Turkey is ....


Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: AOK on July 23, 2012, 11:44:26 AM
Euro/£ exchange rate is up by about 15% on last year and with prices like this from LGW to Dalaman cant say im surprised.  :)

2 Adults£1,208.72Taxes & charges Fare Tax & Fees: £26.00 Air Passenger Duty
£43.28 Fuel Surcharge and Airport Taxes
£69.28 Total Tax & Fees
Sat 11th Aug  14 days
£69.28Web saving-£20.04Total price:£1,257.96
Title: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: Rimms on July 23, 2012, 13:24:11 PM
Completely agree with you, the flight companies are strangling tourism and the traders and hotel operators here seem content to stand and watch it happen. I couldn't see the UK tourist board doing the same, but never hear of FETAV trying to take a proactive stance
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: tonysue on July 23, 2012, 16:40:14 PM
I read somewhere that the Spanish authorities were not charging the airlines to land the plains in spain, but welcoming tourists to help ease the financial crisis. I also read that planes scheduled for Turkey had been rescheduled to spain and canaries earlier this year. There must be a reason why a 4 hour flight to the canaries is cheaper than a 4 hour flight to Turkey.  Turkey has always been cheaper to eat and drink, but with a beer in turkey now more expensive than a beer in the canaries and a bottle of wine far cheaper in the canaries, plus the euro better value this year. I just hope the exchange rate in Turkey doesnt slip back to the 2.18 it was in spring of 2011
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: grahamturner09 on July 23, 2012, 20:13:37 PM
It may have something to do with France being only 17 miles away from the UK
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: patrice on July 23, 2012, 20:22:48 PM
yup..... something like that France .....50 min euro tunnel  ???
Turkey ..... 4hr flight  : :)
Title: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: Rimms on July 23, 2012, 20:50:11 PM
And the new Forrest is a bus ride away for about 20 million Brits, English speaking and almost free of the French, so the distance argument doesn't stack up for me !
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: Scunner on July 23, 2012, 21:55:40 PM
I wonder about the figures - I meet loads of people who are going on holiday to Spain, Cyprus, Turkey, Portugal etc but I hardly ever meet anyone going on holiday to France, and never have really...
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: cheers on July 23, 2012, 22:04:34 PM
I have Froggiephobia and won't even buy their apples!  8)
Title: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: Rimms on July 23, 2012, 22:11:35 PM
I wonder about the figures - I meet loads of people who are going on holiday to Spain, Cyprus, Turkey, Portugal etc but I hardly ever meet anyone going on holiday to France, and never have really...

Keith, that was exactly my sentiment, I thought that it might expose my uncultured Northern point of view f I expressed it as directly as you 
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: keng38 on July 23, 2012, 22:16:53 PM
Its probably 2.5 million people going more than 9 times a year as they own houses there
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: Steve (redding43) on July 23, 2012, 22:25:27 PM
It's the duty free and day trippers across the channel. God bless the Sun £1 deals
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: Scunner on July 23, 2012, 22:27:42 PM
That may be the case, but that wouldn't come under the heading surely - which is "Top 10 Holiday Destinations Taken by Brits"
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: ColinT on July 23, 2012, 22:31:27 PM
Living in Portsmouth, we pop across to France for day trips about 3 times a year. Maybe things like this are counted as 3 foreign holidays in the figures?

When we first went to Calis 9 years ago the exchange rate was £1=TL3,000,000.  I hate to use the Efes example, but it was TL3,000,000 everywhere on the front for a large Efes, and this year it was double that with not such a good exchange rate.  This change has applied to food, etc also, and these prices have also doubled in this time.  Also, we used to get flights to Dalaman for £130-150 return, although that was in the days of XL airways and look what happened to them!  Hotel prices have crept up also, and are considerably more for the same product.  All in all, I estimate it is costing us double now for a Calis holiday than it cost 9 years ago.  I know prices go up, but to double in such a short period of time is off putting.

We are off to Cyprus instead next summer.  I'm sure we will be back as we like it in Calis too much, but its just time for a change.


Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: Steve (redding43) on July 23, 2012, 22:32:31 PM
I think it would...I bet they are just counting numbers entering France otherwise how do you seperate business from leisure visitors? Answer: they don't!
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: Highlander on July 23, 2012, 22:40:52 PM
When are the figures for Rimms.
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: nichola on July 23, 2012, 23:06:36 PM
France actually has about 70 million tourist visitors a year (worldwide not just from the UK). In fact it attracts more tourists than any where else in the world so Doğan tells me.

It does have Paris, one of the most romantic cities in the world (I think).
Title: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: Rimms on July 24, 2012, 07:46:27 AM
When are the figures for Rimms.

Not sure, it was taken from one of the online newspapers I read last week.
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: starman on July 24, 2012, 08:08:29 AM
All in all, I estimate it is costing us double now for a Calis holiday than it cost 9 years ago.  I know prices go up, but to double in such a short period of time is off putting.



You have to consider many things for why costs are double then 9 years ago. For example the price of fuel has tripled since then and that has a knock on effect for everything. Standard of living has gone up along with wage expectations. After all the legal minimum wage is currently ONLY 940.50 TL!!
Prices have gone up everywhere across the globe and pretty sure they have gone up in the UK aswell.
Somethings how ever have gotten cheaper in the last 9 years in Turkey like consumer electronics, motor vehicles etc. When I purchased my first TV set here 20 yrs ago, it was 300 USD for a second hand black and white TV, now you can get a 32 inch HD LCD screen for that amount.
As for the posted tourist figures, well it looks like it came from a tabloid so would take those figures with a pinch of salt.
Title: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: Rimms on July 24, 2012, 11:30:48 AM
As it says on the bottom of the chart, the source is from the Foreign Office website.
Title: Re: Tourist Figures Released
Post by: starman on July 24, 2012, 12:44:49 PM
Seems I need to get some glasses, I can see a white blur but then again, the FCO would not be the best people to get these stats from I would have thought but from the travel companies.
Also would be hard to define really. I went to the US 6 times last year of which 4 of them were for business and not holidays.