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Turkey Related Subjects => Turkey Discussion Forum (Not Calis specifically) => Topic started by: nichola on August 24, 2012, 08:30:09 AM

Title: Alcohol Apartheid: The New Turkish Laws That Segregate Drinkers
Post by: nichola on August 24, 2012, 08:30:09 AM
I couldn't see anything specifically about new Turkish laws in the article but makes for interesting reading about the rising tensions on the issue of alcohol availability and consumption in Turkey and people's attitudes to it.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/08/alcohol-apartheid-the-new-turkish-laws-that-segregate-drinkers/261290/
Title: Re: Alcohol Apartheid: The New Turkish Laws That Segregate Drinkers
Post by: stoop on August 24, 2012, 17:03:01 PM
Quite worrying really. I know some think Turkey is heading East rahter than West and this just adds to that belief.
Title: Re: Alcohol Apartheid: The New Turkish Laws That Segregate Drinkers
Post by: janmack on August 24, 2012, 23:10:51 PM
Slightly off topic but having been to the beach volleyball today I did wonder how the female teams, dressed in skimpy briefs and tops, fit into a country which appears to be leaning towards the East.  Will they be banned sometime in the future from playing unless they are fully covered?  I think tolerance towards Western influences are going to lessen as time goes on.
Title: Re: Alcohol Apartheid: The New Turkish Laws That Segregate Drinkers
Post by: stoop on August 25, 2012, 00:09:57 AM
I wonder what Ataturk would think?
Title: Re: Alcohol Apartheid: The New Turkish Laws That Segregate Drinkers
Post by: Scunner on August 25, 2012, 00:15:27 AM
I love being critical but I didn't read it like that - a rather boisterous and rowdy event which happens to be in an ultra-religious part of Istanbul? Surely it is acceptable to not want wholesale vomiting from alcohol sodden people! One of the replies to the article points out that the title talks of "new laws" but in fact, there are no new laws at all. As a story, I would call it total rubbish  :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Apartheid: The New Turkish Laws That Segregate Drinkers
Post by: stoop on August 25, 2012, 00:20:28 AM
Can't agree Scunner -

"Even in areas long associated with foreigners and Western ways, pressure is mounting against those who like to consume alcohol. On the night of August 14, for instance, Beyoglu authorities removed bar and restaurant signs, claiming that such signage was incongruent with the historical appearance of the area. "In Beyoglu, they [authorities] don't say [anything] directly, but the right to drink alcohol in public places is diminishing, and that is an entertainment area," said Gokhan Tan, a media studies teacher at Istanbul Bilgi University."
Title: Re: Alcohol Apartheid: The New Turkish Laws That Segregate Drinkers
Post by: farmer on August 26, 2012, 08:53:57 AM
Stoop.
My guess is that Ataturk would have said nothing. He would have merely gone elsewhere, drunk his usual copious amounts of Raki, exacerbated his cirrhosis, and then quietly passed away.
Title: Re: Alcohol Apartheid: The New Turkish Laws That Segregate Drinkers
Post by: tinkerman on August 26, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
I wonder what Ataturk would think?

Did he like volleyball?
Title: Re: Alcohol Apartheid: The New Turkish Laws That Segregate Drinkers
Post by: stoop on August 26, 2012, 12:21:54 PM
Not sure what that's supposed to add to the discussion Tinx?

Title: Re: Alcohol Apartheid: The New Turkish Laws That Segregate Drinkers
Post by: tinkerman on August 26, 2012, 12:58:54 PM
If you read the post before yours Stoop it might make more sense  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Apartheid: The New Turkish Laws That Segregate Drinkers
Post by: starman on August 27, 2012, 10:38:02 AM
Beyoglu is a small section of Istanbul (Taksim area) and some areas in Beyoglu are not affected at all like Nevizade which is a couple of streets crammed with people sat outside drinking away.