Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Highlander on December 05, 2012, 16:51:34 PM
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Is there to be no end to it :(
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Probably "tip of an iceberg" H :(
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If truth be told, the authorities will NEVER trap them all, they are devious barstewards!! >:( >:(
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Not connected with Jimmy Savile though apparently.
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Will he be seeing that as a bit of a silver lining Paul?
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Whilst I always thought that Jimmy Saville gave me the creeps, this whole thing is now beginning to resemble a witch hunt. Before judging this particular case against Hall, I think we need to hear the evidence.
Although what I will say is that for me - based on both assisting in the criminal defence and representing in the employment dismissal case an individual accused of abuse - the odds are horribly stacked against the accused in historical abuse cases, and more worryingly it is often based on the poorest of evidence, that because of the passage of time often cannot be reasonably tested. Thankfully in the case I represented the jury was not persuaded by the flimsy evidence, but I would say that my friend had to 'prove' his innocence, rather than the prosecution having to demonstrate beyond all reasonable doubt his guilt. He was lucky though, because a number of good people stood up alongside him, a number of people came forward to give evidence of a conspiracy amongst the accusers, as well as contemporaneous evidence such as photographs.
Most accused in abuse cases do not have either that level of support nor evidence from up to 30 years ago to clear themselves. And they are certainly not helped I'm afraid by the vested interests of self righteous social workers and police (in particular the child protection officers) who too often base their case less on establishing a coherent case based on the facts, based simply on the word of the accuser/s and all too often on the demonisation of the person accused.
I say my friend was lucky enough to have been successful in clearing his name, but it cost him and his family a terrible price, particularly the price paid by his children, for over three years until finally cleared after his 'second' trial, when his employer attempted to sack him, supported by the same group of social workers and police who had failed in the criminal case - he was successfully re-instated in his old job. And as anyone with any employment representation experience that doesn't happen very often.
So before some of you grab your pitch forks, torches and head off in mob style to lynch Hall ... I'd recommend that you wait to hear the evidence before passing judgement, the verdict and the evidence may paint a completely different story to what you have formed in your mind before hearing the evidence.
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UBT - a excellent, coherent, reasoned post.
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He has now been charged which means that the CPS have reviewed the Police evidence,consider that there is a realistic prospext of conviction and that it is in the public interest to prosecute.Now let the court decide and better not to discuss for fear of prejudice as I belive this matter is now sub judice.
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Is there to be no end to it :(
Max Clifford today
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Max Clifford today
He'll be OK. Apparently Michael Barrymore says he'll stand behind him. ;)
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I wonder if the old addage, there is no such thing as bad publicity. Meaning there is no such thing as bad publicity - the meaning and origin of this saying. ... All publicity is good.
will hold true?
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Eh - being arrested on suspicion of having committed sex abuse is good publicity !!!!! :o.
I really don't think so
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I'm worried about Albert now.....
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Worry for Eddie
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-20638012
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Jailed for fifteen months.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22932222
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If anymore Coronation Street actors are arrested Hayley's going to be the only bloke left in it.
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Nice one.
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(http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s561/PTSMODS/tumblr_m6k0byYlWt1rrzdyg_zps28224570.gif)
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Just read that Hall has had his sentence doubled to 30 months. :)
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Yes. Apparently he played his Joker.
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Worst letter I ever wrote when I was a kid .......dear Jim,could you fix for me to go on its a knockout
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Hedging your bets Steve ?? ;)
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Yeah, he didn't know which way to turn.