Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Turkey Related Subjects => Turkey Discussion Forum (Not Calis specifically) => Topic started by: GordonA on January 22, 2013, 14:49:01 PM
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I am so shocked to read that such a thing could possibly happen in such a beautiful country as Turkey. NOT !!!!
Click the link below, are some people STILL really so feckin' stupid ??
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266210/Grandmother-50-lost-70-000-life-savings-left-homeless-duped-Turkish-toyboy-lover.html
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You do have to feel sorry for these poor women on one level, because no doubt they have had poor lives and relationships, but the sheer naivete is staggering, must be in the papers and womens magazines once a month at least!
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It's one of the staple subjects of CBF, along with the price of Efes and Hisaronu being rubbish - and even with all the tales and as angela says, if you buy 4 "Take a break" type magazines at the airport, there'll usually be two that have a story of this nature in them. In fact, there used to be an English girl resident in Turkey working for Take a Break, she used to come to the office looking for examples locally.
But it is, after all the despair at another one, desperately sad. These guys can be remarkably convincing and brutally cold. They ruin lives and futures without any shame or concern for honesty or honour.
The saddest part is there is nothing you can do, just wait for the car crash. Speak to any of these women before the "sting" and they know all about these stories but they are not stupid, they are "lucky to have found one of the good ones".
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I'm more concerned about Gordon's source of information !
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Scunner, having read a series of crass, gloating comments about this on other sites I really welcome your thoughtful remarks.
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Not exactly a paragon of virtue herself was she.
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personally I feel sorry for the fact that her children do not want to know her,ok she does not sound at all as though she has been a good mother always but it seems because they have lost their inheritance or whatever, either way it all boils down to bloomin money :( the young Turkish man duping her in the first place and then her family not wanting to know her after it all came to light....
All a little bit on the sad side I think :(
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Just a thought in the passing....
Whilst not condoning the actions of the fellow who duped this unfortunately lady.....
I do wonder how many cases are there in a season when the boot (if you’ll pardon the terminology) is on the other foot.
I am 100% sure that it is not out with the realms of possibility that women, of a certain persuasion shall we say, play good looking Turkish waiters in order to get what they want with the lure of financial recompense only to pick up their knickers and head off back to Blighty without parting with a single lira.
Should they be pilloried to the same degree.
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I have no doubt there are British females who visit Turkey with exactly this in mind - in fact I know it to be true. But you are talking about two entirely different things. One is two willing adults (you would hope) each getting a bit of fun that is probably all forgotten tomorrow, the other is a premeditated, targeted effort to separate a woman from her wealth.
I've seen it many times - it is polished, incredibly patient long game. It starts with charm, chivalry and generosity and often ends with a clean pair of heels. But don't take my word for it:
CBF 2006 (click) (http://calis-beach.co.uk/forum/turkish_tales/warning._stratergy_con._7676.0.html)
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Hazel Dorrington, sounds one cool woman! Pity all these other poor souls dont have the foresight that she had. What a fool they must feel!!! A real case of their heart ruling their heads.
:D
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Hazel is a lovely lady - she still visits CBF now and again. It was an entirely "out of the blue" topic and for me one of the best in all our years. There is a formula and it seems to have a good success rate. Not one man, one formula, adopted by many. Not a Calis formula either, one that runs the whole coast of Turkey.
It starts with amazing gentlemanly behaviour - refusing to let the lady pay, but for small things - a loaf of bread, a packet of fags, two coffees. From there it is as Hazel explained - borrow a small amount of money and pay it back as agreed or even earlier. Build it up, build it up, everything gets bigger then pull the rug.
Old hands will tell you the same, they are completely sick of mothers who need urgent operations.
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Just before I gave up hairdressing completly last August, I worked with a "girl" who holidayed in Marmaris twice a year. She'd met a "lovely young waiter" there who befiriended her. This "young" woman is the other side of 39 so no niave twenty year old. I used to think she was really street wise but she was bumping her gums about how special he made her feel. Me and the salon owner (a 5 times a year to Ovacik guy), tried to warn her off. She's never married and quite frugal, so she's loaded!!! She maintained she had it under control. She's off to see him yet again in April, and I can say without doubt, she'll be headlines in Take a Break before too long.
Sad!
:-[
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"Old hands will tell you the same, they are completely sick of mothers who need urgent operations."
I know this is slightly off topic but I get sick of builders/workers not turning up to do a job, no phone call or anything. Then when you finally track them down " they, their Mother, Father, Wife, Son, Daughter, Grandmother" was taken suddenly ill and in hospital in "Fethiye, Istanbul, Ankara, Antalya, Izmir". Fine, but that entails a delay not not turning up at all several days/weeks later!
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The thing is, we all want to feel desirable and we all want to be loved. That's why this works. The article says that she was 46 when he left her. I'm 43 and I like to think that I'm still loveable and even desirable. My wonderful husband makes me feel that way but he could be using me I suppose. Who knows until the worst happens? The big difference is that this guy was 28 to her 46 I suppose. Happens often the other way round but somehow this way it seems more 'ridiculous'. This lady seems to have had a bit of a tough time in general. I feel sorry for her. She was vulnerable and he saw that. Stupid? Maybe. Human? Yes, and therefore flawed.
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Yes indeed, pinpointing a vulnerable target is the main part of the scam. It is not wrong for someone of any age to want to be wanted and believe me, they will feel like the most wanted human on the planet.
There are many instances where the m/f ages are wide apart and I can even recall 19/68. I'm sure that isn't even the record. I know handsome young guys who would maybe have been on 400 lira a month, yet always seemed to be driving a new car. Barmen suddenly opening their own bar - which certainly can't be done on a barman's wages. Women that have discussed these relationships with me, then fallen into one, you wouldn't believe it but that has happened more than once.
But the question is, can it work. After a decent number of years the answer is no, never.
I know many Turkish man/British or European woman relationships that work, some are amazingly strong and close. But every single example of a successful TR/UK relationship I know has one thing in common. Both are of similar age, be it 21 or 51.