Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Colwyn on April 02, 2013, 14:37:32 PM
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A small Pacific airline is to start charging passengers by total weight = person + luggage. Will it catch on with other airlines? Is it fair/unfair?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22001256 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22001256)
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Will it catch on? dont think so.But im all for it!!Having sat next to someone who called the steward over to complain that the meal tray was not working properly when in reality it was their fat gut preventing the tray from being level :D :D :D
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Will it catch on? dont think so.But im all for it!!Having sat next to someone who called the steward over to complain that the meal tray was not working properly when in reality it was their fat gut preventing the tray from being level :D :D :D
They should have flown jet2.com the trays are smaller giving more room, so I am told ;-)
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I think it is the thin edge of the wedge. What are they going to do, weigh us all at check in? Imagine the delays and chaos that would cause and would you be paying at the airport? To me it seems plain daft and I am not large so probably wouldn't be affected that much. Then again I have my Turkish friends who are so tiny they make me fell like an Amazon at 5' 3".
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Cost aside, it would definitely be safer. Airlines work on an average weight per person which I always think is curious when you take into account just how precise they are with the weight of bags. An overloaded plane is not safe......I frequently have a minor panic when I look around the plane and see how many above average people there are on it!
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I think this is Samoan airlines who are bringing this in? Many Samoans are very large, so perhaps necessary!
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Can you imagine the delays at check in if you had to declare your weight when you booked and they checked you when you got to the airport. It would be utter chaos. A lot of people are very secretive about their weight to then be told by the check in clerk that you need to pay £5 per kilo for YOUR excess weight will be fun to watch. lol. :-[
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We had a family opposite us on the plane. Mother, Daughter and Father. He was so fat they had to get an extension seat belt. After take off the three seat behind where vacant and he moved into the middle seat and was taking up a big part of the other two seats When the food came his wife sat next to him and fed him his dinner as there was no way he could do it himself as his body was taking up all the space between him and the seat in front. It was lucky for them the seats at the back where free.
For cases like this man I think an extra seat should be booked.
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Maybe planes should have extra stomach room seats as well as extra legroom. ;) It would be awful being sat next to someone like that.
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Agreed, this is a case for paying extra.
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Maybe planes should have extra stomach room seats as well as extra legroom. ;) It would be awful being sat next to someone like that.
Seems a bit unfair if they charged extra for pregnant women not being sexist but they would take up more room
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Yes, but being pregnant is not an illness it's a natural condition and heavily pregnant woman are not allowed to fly anyway, so a nine month pregnant woman is not going to be travelling. Being grossly obese and travelling is a different matter.
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It does really annoy me when I've juggled my luggage and not been able to squeeze in an extra kilo of cheese when I see really large people.
But if I eat too much cheese I could end up paying extra for being fat, hmmm.
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Some people are obese due to medical conditions or even medication, are these people to be exempt or made to buy 2 seats?
If this is being introduced to control the weight in the aircraft, I cant see how some people can be exempt.
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Weight is weight and if it is for aircraft safety reasons then of course the weight of the passengers is far more relevant than the weight of they bags. I think I would suffer if I travelled alone but when I think how much my kids weighed in all our UK - Turkey journeys (ticket price not a penny cheaper) then overall I think I would have been able to bring loads more cheddar cheese and ham with us to Turkey :)
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If aircraft seats were a more realistic size we wouldn't have this problem. As for charging per kilo of personal weight, that is yet another way to screw us for money.
Have to say am disappointed at some attitudes towards larger people. I believe the average aircraft seat is around 17ins width so not surprising some 'spill over'. If the chap mentioned earlier was so huge, agree he should have booked 2 seats rather than the embarrassment of not fitting into one. Seat belts....now there's another tale. They vary so greatly that even slightly chubby people can struggle.
Have a heart folks, not everyone has a boney bum and stick-like arms ;)
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And there is one arm rest for every two people - how can that possibly work?
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I am all for it, do I get a dicount? ;D
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You can go in the overhead locker
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Don't give them ideas Keith!
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I think it's a natural progression for firms like Ryanair who must cringe when they can't get extra money off those who have the special 'airline jackets' that they stuff with whatever they can get into them.
I don't think they would have to weigh anyone though - just make them walk through a gap large enough for the average person. If they can get through then they pay for one seat. If not they pay for two. They could tell you the measurements when you book so that you know if your waist is too big or not.
I'm not sure basing it just on weight would be fair really. I mean some guys are 6'6 + and weigh quite a bit yet would still fit inside a standard seat - and to be fair most tall people would pay for extra legroom seats anyway.
Tinx can go under your seat ;)
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I Think that Airlines should give fatties a discount think of the fuel that they save when landing the plane, it must fall from the sky quicker the heavier it is ;D
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Unless it has run out of fuel - in which case it be stuck up there.
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No because they have to have a maximum landing weight which is lesser than the maximum take of weight so that wouldn't work. :)
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I wonder whether it would be a good idea to do a poo before checking in
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PMSL!!.......oops, is that allowed on here? It's not swearing is it? :)
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rofl Keith, brilliant!!
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Currently (as I treat it like a game - they are trying to screw me so I score as many points as I can and NEVER pay for extra weight) - So I have been known to turn up at check-in with 2 winter coats on because I know I can get away with it but if this comes in sandals T-shirt and flip flops in December for me :-)
PS if you think I am cheeky - they got me in December - I paid for coffees on the plane in lira (as they asked if I could as they had no change) and they converted at 3.5 to the pound - Gill doesn't like me to make a scene but never again will I get caught on that one !
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I agree in principle, I can never quite understand why you can be as fat as you like and not be penalised, but go 1k over baggage allowance and get screwed for it, but having a husband who takes up quite a lot of room I wouldn't want to be paying for his excess baggage!!
(btw, there are very very few medical conditions which cause obesity, 99 times out of 100, self inflicted)
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(btw, there are very very few medical conditions which cause obesity, 99 times out of 100, self inflicted)
Great, now we have that pearl of wisdom, we chubs can all go and un-inflict ourselves!
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I am speaking personally (and professionally) Bluwise, I was a mega "chub" and I did un-inflict myself
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BTW too angela......I have a very underactive thyroid which they have been trying to balance for 7 years. I go to the hospital every 2 months. I eat once per day, at about 7pm. For that meal I might have 2 boiled eggs and a salad, sometimes just a tomato. During the day I have 2 hot drinks, one tea and one coffee both with sugar. I don't want to eat. I have no appetite. I eat only because I know I have to, to stay alive. My consultant is very worried because my calorific intake each day doesn't even hit 600. It takes more calories than that for the body to carry out it's basic functions. Yet still I gain weight! Would you call that pigging out??
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no, an under active thyroid is so difficult to get under control, and it doesn't matter what you do. Exercise is difficult too. Yet tip the other way to overactive and the weight drops off, but that's not healthy either. The body is a wonderful thing, but is capable of very cruel tricks
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I can't exercise. One reason is that I'm too tired and the other is that the Thyroxine is already putting too much strain on my heart even though it won't make my metabolism work. Why would one need to exercise 600 calories off though? I must stress that I'm not obese but I am most certainly more than I should weigh for my height. People shouldn't assume that others are pigging out though.
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I congratulate you Angela on your achievement (sincerely) as it is no easy task.
I just think your comment was a bit patronising. Most people are aware too much energy in and not enough out equals weight gain. There is also evidence that some people are pre-disposed to weight gain making it even harder to control.
Mrs B, I do hope a balance is found for you......must be horrendous having to be so careful
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Thank you Bluwise. Me too actually because it's not even a case of being careful. I just don't want to eat. :(
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apologies if you found it patronising, very easy to fall into work mode when you work in health care
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No, don't worry about it angela. It's just very upsetting to spend your life as a size 10 and then not to be able to hang onto that because of a hormone! !