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Title: Calis Beach
Post by: hubblebubbles on April 13, 2013, 19:00:45 PM
Some people will be delighted to know that a team of men were clearing the beach  on the main Calis seafront of all the big stones and mess yesterday and also cutting the grass verges .......   summers coming folks
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Post by: Bluwise on April 13, 2013, 19:10:32 PM
Marvellous.  It's not the most inviting beach so every little helps.  8)
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Post by: Ray1951 on April 13, 2013, 19:38:10 PM
In some places, the school children help to clean and tidy the beaches then they have a BBQ.  It's to make the children feel as though they are helping the environment.  It's to be hope that everyone strives to keep the places they visit, clean and tidy by taking their litter and rubbish away with them.
Title: Calis Beach
Post by: Lotty on April 13, 2013, 20:50:41 PM
That's a really good idea, it instills early but important civic pride in children and is rewarding all round. Children love feeling they have achieved something valuable. Would schools be interested in this as an annual educational activity? A great fun day out and a visible result.
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Post by: wallace on April 14, 2013, 09:04:27 AM
would that it worked, I witnessed the arrival of 2 dolmus to our small local beach in Sogut at the
beginning of the season a few years ago, all the children from our village school tumbled out and
were given a black sack they ran up and down for an hour collecting debris that had been dropped
 and washed ashore, later that day whilst having coffe at our local restaurant 2 of the children
from the clean up trip ran in for an ice lolly, both dropped the wrapper on the floor before running
of to play :o.......it may take a while!
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Post by: RoscoDal on April 14, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
That's great! Calis beach is lovely when its clean. A job needing done! Roll on summer!  ;D
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Post by: chris35 on April 14, 2013, 11:11:46 AM
Can you imagine British kids being given bin bags,then told to clean up their beach? Parents would be up in arms claiming it was child labour,and shouldn't be allowed to happen in this day and age  ;D ;D
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Post by: Scunner on April 14, 2013, 11:18:24 AM
Can you imagine British kids being given bin bags,then told to clean up their beach?


Only as an alternative to a custodial sentence.
Title: Calis Beach
Post by: Rimms on April 14, 2013, 15:51:59 PM
I don't agree, in the early 70s I used to got to Southport and Formby beach where a massive disco outfit called Radio Doom ran beach parties, your entrance ticket was to collect a bin bag full of rubbish
Title: Calis Beach
Post by: Lotty on April 14, 2013, 16:42:25 PM
I think it would encourage children and make it more exciting if there was a prize for the most rubbish collected. I've had my grandchildren doing things in the garden that helped, but to them it was just a game and they loved it.
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Post by: turkeysue on April 14, 2013, 18:16:15 PM
that is brilliant...lets hope its not the one and only clean-up...would be so good to see calis beach clean in september...ummm we shall see.!!! : :)  : :)
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Post by: nichola on April 14, 2013, 20:03:03 PM
We were at the Sunset Beach end of Çaliş last weekend and there was broken glass everywhere, among all the other rubbish and down in Gemiler I saw syringes on the beach again among all the other rubbish.

And our friends staying at Sunset have come across a dead turtle on the Çaliş beach this week.

Cleaning the beach may not be something for the children to be doing in these circumstances.

By contrast Ölüdeniz beach was absolutely spotless when I went down there one morning last week.
Title: Calis Beach
Post by: Lotty on April 14, 2013, 20:48:33 PM
OluDeniz looks fabulous on the webcam I must say. Spotless and the water sprays are on the grass too.
Title: Calis Beach
Post by: Rimms on April 14, 2013, 20:54:44 PM
Nichola, agreed, I've been to Olu several times during the winter and have seen guys cleaning the beach throughout that time, I know they have building work underway there at the moment but that will complete any time soon and the beach front is a credit to them.

On the other hand, I live here in Calis and for the past 11 years have been one of its biggest supporters, If I add up the numbers I'm sure that I'm personally responsible for hundreds of people visiting during that time.

This year I have 6 of my very closest friends coming over in May and to be perfectly honest, I'm really embarrassed to show them where I live.

I'm planning an itinerary for their visit, we will be going to Akaya, Gocek, Kargi, Faralya, Dalyan, Olu, Fethiye and Uzumlu. It breaks my heart that the only place I will take them to in Calis is down to Guvens for the beach party and I'll use a massive detour to avoid the disgraceful state of our main roads to get there.

I'm not the kind of person to run down their home town, I'm from Liverpool and proud of it, need I say more? But Calis and Gunlukbasi look like a joke at the moment and when compared to similar resorts in Spain and Portugal and get this, both of those places are cheaper to get to and better value for money once there. I worry that by taking one step forward, this place has taken several steps back. 







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Post by: Scunner on April 14, 2013, 21:13:26 PM
100% agree with Rimms - it's also such a shame that we are blessed with such a beautiful bay and a place who's name has two words, the second one being plaji/beach and the state of it is of little importance. Even if there is a clean up it's just the one at the start of the season then it deteriorates daily till the end of October.

It's hardly a big beach either - 10 metres from back to sea?

Look at another place where they take their beach seriously and realise it is the key to everything else being successful - Praia de Rocha in the Algarve - a massive beach that takes some looking after. You can have lunch at a beach restaurant and still be five minutes walk from the sea! And guess what - well into season, we didn't see one fag butt, piece of broken glass, beer can, piece of litter.

Because they know why people choose there:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/391307_3362400498859_1392464317_n.jpg)

p.s. Apparently I'm the bloke who let's you say what you like about Calis as long as it's positive.
Title: Re: Calis Beach
Post by: stoop on April 14, 2013, 21:47:46 PM
We tend only to go to the beach up our way. Max's old place or the Birlik. They look after their little bit throughout the summer.

I agree with Scunner - They really know what a positive effect a nice beach can have in Portugal. I've never seen it dirty in the 11 years we have been going ( and you can get a pint for 1 Euro  :) )
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Post by: apollo on April 14, 2013, 22:14:26 PM
Just face it . The authorities do not have the brains or vision and don't give a damn. And it will never change!
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Post by: Partygirl on April 14, 2013, 22:24:09 PM
Well, the good thing is we are close to many lovely places which are easy to get to.  Shame about the beach. I have hardly spent any time on it. Still love sitting on the seafront looking at the beautiful view and the unbeatable sunset.  But I must admit we spent a lot of time else where (mainly Fethiye) last year. :(
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Post by: Scunner on April 14, 2013, 22:24:49 PM
You may be right apollo but actually my opinion is that everyone thinks it is everyone else's responsibility and while nobody thinks it is theirs, nothing will change. Sadly a scruffy beach cleaned once in time for a six month season seems to be all that is required in this holiday resort - and some years that only happened because of volunteers arranging to do it, otherwise nothing would have happened at all.

Every other country I have been to have had people out every single morning, cleaning every last thing before anyone is up and heading for the beach. One day, or once a day - two beach cleaning policies a million miles apart.
Title: Re: Calis Beach
Post by: Scunner on April 14, 2013, 22:43:46 PM
Shame about the beach. I have hardly spent any time on it.


Yes I am the same - I doubt I have been on the beach for any significant length of time ever in all my years - and perhaps the reason is because of the lack of housekeeping.

The belediye charge hefty fees for their fairly crappy sunbeds but don't think cleaning the beach around them is a job that needs doing? It's preposterous. You look after something then charge people to enjoy your efforts.

I've never thought of those uncomfortable bench like things as sunbeds. The belediye rent them out as little platforms to keep you above the crap.
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Post by: nichola on April 14, 2013, 23:15:14 PM
I think it is pathetic and disgraceful that the beach is only cleaned once a season. It tells me that when it is done it is only because people think there is something to be gained by the beginning of season clean up for the tourists but what about the people that live there all year round. Don't they count for anything? I have been there a few times recently and the whole beach looks disgusting. I felt very sorry for the people that had come early in the season having to sit on such a dirty beach.

And, all that broken glass that over time just gets buried and some of it is likely to be missed in the one off clean up and is just lurking there waiting for some poor soul to tread on it and end up with a cut foot.

But also I think I am right in saying that it is meant to be a protected area for the turtles or at least part of it is and the dead turtle found by my friends and their three young children had been decomposing there for some time.

If the beach was routinely cleaned then there may be some incentive for people to use the bins or take their rubbish home with them.
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Post by: Aaitken11 on April 14, 2013, 23:36:56 PM
Couldn't agree more. My year old granddaughter nearly had a cigarette end in her mouth had we not noticed it in time. No entertainment for them and no clean beach which is a shame really because a day at the beach would be a change from the swimming pool.
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Post by: Jenny1 on April 15, 2013, 14:49:07 PM
I think it would be a good idea to either pave or deck an area of the beach, I think this would be nicer to sit on and also would be a lot easier to keep clean?
It would be expensive but would bring more people to the beach, more custom for bars on the prom.
Just an idea  :)
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Post by: angela on April 15, 2013, 14:50:49 PM
I agree whole heartedly with all the above   (cringing at the baby with the cigarette end, ugh!)  but if everybody were to take responsibility for themselves, how much nicer it would be. I have sat and fumed many times, (as I'm sure have many of you) watching sunbathers get up and walk away leaving cans, bottles, and god knows what, for someone else to pick up, and it's aross the board nationality wise, but that's not going to change. We haved walked the road from the Karagoslar boat yards round past Aksaslar, Kuleli etc  many times, and the piles of rubbish along the route are shameful. All of you who are lucky enough to live locally know far more about it  than we do and I can imagine the frustration of wanting to show your visitors your home town, but being too embarrased.  That's really sad.
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Post by: Scunner on April 15, 2013, 15:11:11 PM
I agree that people should take care of their own rubbish on the beach but if they are sitting surrounded by empty cans and fag butts they are far less likely to.

I remember the first time we visited Red Island on a boat trip - it could have been that we were the first people to ever discover it - till we sailed round to the side we were mooring up for lunch at and saw carrier bags of rubbish strewn everywhere. It was such a disappointment.
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Post by: teetee on April 15, 2013, 15:39:12 PM
Glad to hear that the beach at Olu is looking good at the moment. We spend a reasonable amount of time down there when we are over and in general even at the beginning and end of season it is quite clean. But I have never seem any "cleaning patrols" that you get in other countries, which is a shame as there will always be that minority who leave litter behind.

As a non-smoker I cannot understand why those that do indulge in this habit cannot do something to take their butts away with them as on most beaches this is a common issue and a shame.

Mind you a ban on smoking outside might help  ;)  ;)
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Post by: angela on April 15, 2013, 15:42:17 PM
very controversial teetee, I would second that one!!
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Post by: casacluggo on April 15, 2013, 17:28:30 PM
I think there might be be one consideration that might have been overlooked in this whole saga of council provided services, that is you get what you pay for. It has been my observation that the cost of  "council tax" is extremely cheap there, around maybe £100 per year. Do you think this is relevant?
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Post by: stoop on April 15, 2013, 17:35:45 PM
I think there might be be one consideration that might have been overlooked in this whole saga of council provided services, that is you get what you pay for. It has been my observation that the cost of  "council tax" is extremely cheap there, around maybe £100 per year. Do you think this is relevant?

I think labour costs are reflected in this. The bin men won't be on £20k per year that's for sure.
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Post by: casacluggo on April 15, 2013, 17:59:29 PM
Yes but that is reflected by the going rate for the population as a whole, which is also reflected in the general cost of living which to us Brits is cheap.  :)
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Post by: Scunner on April 15, 2013, 18:52:36 PM
I agree with that, but 1) People living near a beach should pay more to ensure it is well kept (the beach being the reason they bought there - not many people from outside Turkey want a place two hours inland) and 2) The money the belediye make from their sunbeds should be reinvested into looking after the thing the sunbeds are on - why would you not do that?

Just my opinion.
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Post by: stoop on April 15, 2013, 19:05:28 PM
Yes but that is reflected by the going rate for the population as a whole, which is also reflected in the general cost of living which to us Brits is cheap.   :)

I think you just answered your own question. It's all relevant. Council tax is less over there because costs are less. That doesn't mean people should expect an inferior level of service does it?
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Post by: Karennina on April 16, 2013, 20:56:05 PM
we do use the beach at Calis a lot and have never thought it was too bad... However last week we went down for a day (before the men started the clear up)and I have to say this year it looked awful, litter loads of it, loads of fag ends which I have never noticed before and dog poo which we have definetely never noticed before....I had planned a dip in the sea to help the healng of a problem I have had with my stomach, however seeing all that debris totally put me off going in the sea I was rather afraid I may catch something  :( However what a difference on the day the clean up began those guys worked really hard some of the rocks they were picking up were not small and it looked hugely improved after but they do need to keep it up....
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Post by: Ray1951 on April 16, 2013, 22:07:03 PM
Some adults in the UK need to be taught not to drop their rubbish AND chewing gum and cigarette ends are a menace on our streets.
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Post by: angela on April 17, 2013, 10:26:57 AM
Ray1951  well said that man, couldn't agree more
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Post by: tamd on April 17, 2013, 11:27:54 AM
Its not always holiday makers that leave the mess.  Lots of locals especially up the Sat beach end go late night fishing, meet up and leave bags full of rubbish, cigarette ends, bottles etc behind them.  Perhaps if a system of fines were introduced it might improve things?
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Post by: casacluggo on April 17, 2013, 18:07:01 PM
Trouble is, you cannot fine people with no money,I have seen these poor people dining on the beach at night,it is probably the only respite they get from the heat of the day but is no excuse for their littering .