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Information and Services in Turkey Section => Banks, Interest, Money Transfers, Insurance => Topic started by: SteveJ on May 09, 2013, 18:28:29 PM

Title: Let's just say that....
Post by: SteveJ on May 09, 2013, 18:28:29 PM
for arguments sake that I had an empty (no debt) credit card that has a credit limit of  £13,000 and that the bank have offered me a 0% loan for 12 months. In theory I could borrow £10,000 of the banks money (it would cost me a £300 admin fee), transfer that across to my savings account in Turkey at 8% and then just before the 12 month 0% offer expires transfer the £10k back to the bank, pay off the loan and pocket (less admin fee and tranfer fees and possibly some tax) the £800 I'd earned in interest, around £400 for doing diddly by my simple calculation

OK you CBF Bankers - where's the obvious hole that I've missed?  :o
Title: Re: Let's just say that....
Post by: Scunner on May 09, 2013, 18:33:12 PM
The exchange rate kicking you in the nuts  :)
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Post by: SteveJ on May 09, 2013, 18:41:46 PM
Party Pooper  :-[
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Post by: Brianbern on May 09, 2013, 19:49:08 PM
Interest rate in Turkey is currently 6.5% & falling!
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Post by: SteveJ on May 09, 2013, 19:56:04 PM
another one!
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Post by: Jim Fraser on May 09, 2013, 20:58:37 PM
SteveJ - yes it will work - but you will only be able to bank it for 11 month to ensure the debt is cleared within the year, so the £300 admin charge and the tax being taken off at source will near wipe out your interest, but think positive - you will manage to buy a couple of beers with the profit (as long as the interest rate and the price of beer do not change drastically)
Title: Re: Let's just say that....
Post by: SteveJ on May 09, 2013, 23:11:09 PM
Thanks Jim - that's more like it. £10k invested and two free beers after a year. What's not to like about that deal? ;D
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Post by: Scunner on May 09, 2013, 23:35:56 PM
You shouldn't be to happy with a 2 beer profit Steve. 2 beers = 12 tl

This means you have a nett total sterling value of £10,004.33 using Jim's 2 beer profit.

But an increase in exchange rate of +0.01/£ - say from 2.76 to 2.77 over the entire year - takes your £10,000 investment 12 months ago from 27,600 TL back then, to a value of £ 9968.23 (27,612 TL/2.77) on re-exchange to sterling. So, for every 1 kurus increase in TL/£ exchange rate, you lose far more than the two beers you gained :D

Disclaimer: Exchange rates go up when you are going on holiday and down when you need pounds.
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Post by: sadler on May 10, 2013, 09:01:51 AM
You obviously have too much time on your hands, Scunner!  ;)
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Post by: jackstee on May 10, 2013, 11:05:51 AM
Mind you, it may go the other way and he makes a couple of grand. ( My glass is half full by the way )
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Post by: lance on May 10, 2013, 11:12:34 AM
I was just going to say the same thing Keith ,you took the words from my mouth . :-[
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Post by: barry44544 on May 10, 2013, 11:58:33 AM
He who dares Rodders, He who dares.....
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Post by: SuzzPuss on May 10, 2013, 22:08:23 PM
Be a bit careful to read the small print on those balance transfer offers.  You're OK if you never use the credit card but as soon as you start using it a lot of them start charging you interest whether you pay off what you've spent or not.  Either read the small print carefully or never use the card.
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Post by: Hamlet on May 11, 2013, 18:37:51 PM
Stuff investing, just enjoy spending it 8)
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Post by: Gary-O on May 11, 2013, 19:25:30 PM
You shouldn't be to happy with a 2 beer profit Steve. 2 beers = 12 tl

This means you have a nett total sterling value of £10,004.33 using Jim's 2 beer profit.

But an increase in exchange rate of +0.01/£ - say from 2.76 to 2.77 over the entire year - takes your £10,000 investment 12 months ago from 27,600 TL back then, to a value of £ 9968.23 (27,612 TL/2.77) on re-exchange to sterling. So, for every 1 kurus increase in TL/£ exchange rate, you lose far more than the two beers you gained :D

Disclaimer: Exchange rates go up when you are going on holiday and down when you need pounds.
Keith, you forgot that when buying back a currency the rate is higher normally by 4 or 5 points.

Presently The Doviz rate is £1 = 2.755 Lira but you have to give 2.80 lira to buy a pound, therefore 27,612 / 2.80 = an even bigger loss  :(
Title: Re: Let's just say that....
Post by: SteveJ on May 11, 2013, 21:13:53 PM
Sod it - I'll buy my own beers  ;D