Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum

Calis Beach Forum => Expat & Property Owners Q and A Forum => Topic started by: Rimms on October 01, 2013, 09:44:25 AM

Title: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: Rimms on October 01, 2013, 09:44:25 AM
According to a local newspaper, the natural gas pipeline has now reached Mugla and there is a consultation taking place on whether to bring it through to Fethiye. The fly in the ointment appears to be that 60% of the current electricity accounts need to express an interest in having natural gas and pay in advance a 335tl fee to have your property connected, this fee will be refunded if the project fails to happen. I would love to have natural gas but I seriously doubt whether another 31,989 people will join me and pay the deposit. I was really surprised that the deadline to subscribe was 29/10/2013. I would have thought this would have been more widely publicised.

Even though it will mean that all of the roads will need to be dug up yet again, it would be a great shame to loose this opportunity to further enhance the infrastructure of our small corner of Turkey.
Title: Re: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: WordBird on October 01, 2013, 11:23:08 AM
That does seem a very short response period or a serious fail in publicity!

If I was there I would join you......do hope that others will.
Title: Re: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: mercury on October 01, 2013, 13:08:53 PM
I can see the posts on FB now.. Anyone's gas off today? :-)
Title: Re: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: usedbustickets on October 01, 2013, 15:39:45 PM
What's the current price, or savings, between the natural gas and other available energy types in Fethiye?
Title: Re: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: JohnF on October 01, 2013, 15:45:42 PM
I can see the posts on FB now.. Anyone's gas off today? :-)
Where I stay in Istanbul was changed to dogal gas a few years ago and rarely is it off - in fact, I cant remember it ever happening.  Nice to just turn the thermostat up a bit in January when its -5c outside.

JF
Title: Re: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: Rimms on October 01, 2013, 16:09:35 PM
What's the current price, or savings, between the natural gas and other available energy types in Fethiye?

It's not possible to say as we don't have any gas mains here, but I can almost guarantee that the price per KW of natural gas will be a lot lower than bottled gas.
Title: Re: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: mercury on October 01, 2013, 16:14:26 PM
How often was your water, electric and internet off?  It was a  nightmare for us in Fethiye.. We had dozens of power cuts..just curious if its just this area that has problems with a internet and water supplies John..
Title: Re: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: JohnF on October 01, 2013, 16:53:12 PM
How often was your water, electric and internet off? 
Internet - rarely.
Water - all the phuking time in Ortakoy but not so much now moved to Sisli
Electricity - ditto

The utilities infrastructure in Fethiye is the issue - too big a growth of population in a short space of time coupled with a lack of foresight on the part of the utility companies.  As the gas supply will be new, it wont suffer the legacy issues other utility suppliers have to contend with.  At least that's the way it should work!

JF
Title: Re: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: tonysue on October 01, 2013, 17:29:47 PM
I have had the same gas bottle for nigh on 2 years now so fair to say I am not a big consumer. The properties are not equipped to utilise gas so would need extensive alterations which I assume would be costly and I would be very concerned from a safety aspect, both by the installation by trades and your average end user. Add to that the fact that temperatures in this region are not as low as Istanbul, and there are not that many days in a year heating is required, I really dont see that it would be a big loss if it didnt arrive in Fethiye anytime soon.
Title: Re: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: George Warner on October 01, 2013, 17:39:54 PM
 As I read,its 355 Tl to bring it to Fethiye,how much and how long to supply it to each building? Will those who didn't subscribe also be supplied if it ever happened?
 
Title: Re: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: LeeGlo on October 01, 2013, 18:00:40 PM
I agree with Tonysue, we live here permanently and only use a bottle of gas in about 9-10 months at a cost of 60TL, so natural gas is not a priority for us. Many Turkish people use a soba in the winter for heating and cooking on so I can't see them rushing to pay 355TL either.
Air cons are pretty efficient at heating/cooling and are not that expensive to run. Of course when the leccy goes off it's a case of gather round the candle with a blanket.
Title: Re: Natural Gas for Fethiye
Post by: Rimms on October 01, 2013, 19:11:28 PM
As I read,its 355 Tl to bring it to Fethiye,how much and how long to supply it to each building? Will those who didn't subscribe also be supplied if it ever happened?

George, I worked in the gas industry in the UK and used to attend "Gas Infill" events with BG, mainly in villages that were restricted to electric, oil or LPG.

The model relies on pre securing a critical mass of consumers in the community, this allows the energy company to install the supply down every road in the community knowing that their investment will have a large number of consumers from day 1. Those who sign up for the initial infill get the advantage of being part of the major project with contractors and plant already on site and a team of domestic installers who are connecting literally thousands of properties to the gas main. Those who don't subscribe can be connected in the future but as a 'one off' job, it's inevitably much more expensive.

The thing that strikes me is that almost all of my current energy use is electric, my bills for heating the house and water through the winter are considerably more than I spend on electric during the summer and so I feel that it would be good for Aydem to have some competition. It would also be good for me to be able to heat my home and hot water regardless of the continuity of the electric supply and not to have to add to the wood burning smog cloud that hangs over Fethiye on most mornings during the winter.

Lack of competition isn't a good thing for any of us. Just look at TTNET !