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Title: road re surfacing
Post by: kevmclean2001 on November 06, 2013, 00:14:40 AM
hi can anyone give any up dates or better still pictures of progress to roads. one of my neighbours has commented that the roads in our area (lissa links). are finally being resurfaced. can anyone confim or deny please. thanks in advance
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Bevsie56 on November 06, 2013, 04:52:32 AM
Yep i confirm the roads are being done, i live very near Lissa Links and at present they have put in all the kerbstones, there is going to be narrow paths and on the corners they have put  rounded planting areas. Think it will look fantastic when its done. Pics are not great but may give you some idea af progress, they are working very quickly now ............thank goodness.
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Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: daveG on November 06, 2013, 15:16:25 PM
In 2010 we went to pay our council tax and was surprised to hear that we had an extra £230 to find for road tax!!
After explaining, but we do not have a car!! We were advised but this is a one off!! tax for road repairs.
Guess what, still waiting so-called road repairs/re-surfacing or block paving.
Obviously we must be classed as the poor side of Tuzla!!!






Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Anne on November 06, 2013, 15:30:47 PM
Think yourself lucky it was only £230.  We got stung for almost £700 which was more than double the others on our complex.  No amount of arguing got it reduced.  What we did succeed in getting though was our council tax band reduced so hopefully if they charge again for the roadworks it won't be such a hit:(
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Ian on November 06, 2013, 16:14:57 PM
Yep i confirm the roads are being done, i live very near Lissa Links and at present they have put in all the kerbstones, there is going to be narrow paths and on the corners they have put  rounded planting areas. Think it will look fantastic when its done.

Bev - hi - have they put up that 90 ft Angel of the North monument opposite your place yet  ;)

Thanks for the pictures of our sokak :D
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: ArtyMar on November 06, 2013, 18:26:35 PM
How about the part done road in Koca Calis leading down from the Angel Bar/Cafe toward The Surf Cafe (by the side of the forrest)? Last time we were there in September, the pavement on both sides had been extended (stopped half way though) and the road surfacing petered out so there were still mountains of dust when any car went by at more than 15 miles an hour.
Quackers, you're my guru on this! Any further progress? (hope you're all well and enjoying pleasant weather).
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Bevsie56 on November 06, 2013, 19:18:27 PM
 Will post more pics when the next phase gets done so you can follow the progress
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: kevmclean2001 on November 06, 2013, 23:13:55 PM
thanks for replies. and further updates would be great when the happen. looks good so far.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: quackers on November 07, 2013, 05:42:03 AM
No Marcia no progress in our area. Waiting to see what happens when the rains come.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: ArtyMar on November 07, 2013, 09:01:26 AM
Quackers, what do you expect when the rains come? Floods? Or action to finish the road (wishful thinking)?
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: George Warner on November 07, 2013, 09:17:29 AM
How about the part done road in Koca Calis leading down from the Angel Bar/Cafe toward The Surf Cafe (by the side of the forrest)? Last time we were there in September, the pavement on both sides had been extended (stopped half way though) and the road surfacing petered out so there were still mountains of dust when any car went by at more than 15 miles an hour.
Quackers, you're my guru on this! Any further progress? (hope you're all well and enjoying pleasant weather).
But they ave planted shrubs and trees on the island separating Deniz Kent from the Surf cafe new track[road]and finished off the kerbing
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: ArtyMar on November 07, 2013, 14:11:29 PM
Thanks for that info, George! Look forward to seeing this flourishing when we come next year.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: hotlips on November 10, 2013, 11:25:26 AM
Well I for one am extremely disappointed. I live on Lissa Park and our complex looked absolutely delightful with the plants  that were planted on the outside of the complex in borders 10 years ago when the complex was built. We were given no warning and one morning the bulldozers arrived and destroyed the whole lot. We tried in vain to salvage some of the plants but most of them were destroyed. They intend to replace the borders with a pavement which will no doubt leave us with no access through our gates and will be weed ridden in no time at all.

We tried to tell them that we have plans that show we own the borders, but no one was interested. In fact we were only just able to keep the bulldozers from going through the cables for our outside lighting. The people that live on the road that runs alongside both complexes (mainly Turkish) were not happy either with some off them coming out and screaming at the men (who looked rather pleased with themselves). Some of the residents have been told they will need to move their gates, they are only putting one ramp per side into the complex (we had already paid for ramps to be put in which have all been removed).

It now resembles a war zone and looks so bare and ugly. Apparantly it is all to make everything look nice and tidy, but I beg to differ.

They are working fast now and we are lucky that is has remained dry because it will be horrendous when it rains. I could go on but I think if you were here you may think differently.

No doubt we will all receive a whacking bill to boot at the end of it. So to say I'm not happy is a bit of an understatement!

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Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: janmack on November 10, 2013, 17:16:21 PM
Absolutely agree with you Teresa (Hotlips).  I also live in Lissa Park and the area is just one big mess!  The so called walkway wasn't even measured out properly and won't even be wide enough for our dog to walk along in some parts, never mind a person.  Instead of plants and trees, which were lovingly planted and nurtured over the last 9 years by my husband, we will now have parking spaces outside our house.  3 owners had to supervise the workers to make sure they didn't break the power cables to our complex as they really do not care what gets damaged!  I dread to think what would have happened if the owners had been out at the time.  I have no doubt we will be faced with a big bill to pay for this "progress" at some point...and by this time next year a lot of the blocks will have sunk and the walkways will be full of weeds.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Menthol on November 10, 2013, 22:15:04 PM
You must all be fuming! Very destructive for what sounds like little improvement.

Hope it does end up looking lovely again.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Scunner on November 10, 2013, 22:23:54 PM
It is truly awful what they are doing - I hope Jan doesn't mind me using the photos she put on Facebook - they show vividly what 'progress' is doing to their street:

Before:

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Progress:

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Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: philrose on November 11, 2013, 05:26:18 AM
Everyone I know who lives in the area is totally fed up with the mess and disruption, I've lost count of the times we have lost  electric/water/telephone due to some clueless numpty with a JCB! They also seem to be upgrading the roads with no foresight at all. For example the current road next to Lisa Links is now being done but it still has all the old electricity cables which means that it will all have to be dug up again to put in the new underground cabling! They also still insist on watering the roads at least twice a day turning the whole area into a mudbath....
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: janmack on November 11, 2013, 06:22:32 AM
No problem Keith...I have other photos but the "before" and "after" shown here gives an idea of what it's like.  We actually went on a short break and came back home to the "after"...it was really quite upsetting.  Like Philrose says they will be digging up the new roads in a few months for electrics...absolutely no planning or real thought has gone into this "project".  In fact my husband was told by the council when he went to find out what is happening that there weren't any plans, that the walkways etc were placed where the contractor decided when they reached each area...total and utter madness.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: kayakebab on November 11, 2013, 07:07:33 AM
Aside from the block paving they're going to be putting down, they've put in drainage and grids for the water to go down.
Trouble is some of the grids are higher than the level of the road!
Some people are going to struggle to get in and out of their driveways due to the height of the curved blocks they've just laid.
Our next door neighbour won't be able to hose his driveway down because there's a bit step upwards to the road level, so he will end up with a new pool.
This is a good thing though as he tends to do it really early in the morning, so we won't be woken up by it anymore  :)

I doubt any of these guys have any training. They opened our gate while coming along with the digger, next thing a chunk of concrete missing from the end of our driveway.
John spotted the man with the concrete and filed in the gap and made a nice smooth section between the new blocks and the driveway.
The guys were fascinated and John was awarded with cok guzel, he's never concreted in his life but it's definitely the smartest part of the whole street.
As others have said, it will all come up again to bury the electric cables.
They started the process in May, am so sick of the jcbs rocking our foundations everytime they go up and down ( at least 100 times a day ) and have given up trying to keep the dust under control.
You just know its all going to sink and be uneven in no time at all.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: janmack on November 11, 2013, 07:25:49 AM
Linda - they told Phil they are going to dig the road down to make it level with the drainage grids...more noise, dirt and dust!
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: kevin3 on November 11, 2013, 08:59:20 AM
If the contractors have been given free rein to carry out the work as they see fit
how did they manage to submit an accurate quote to get the job.?? sounds murky.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: quackers on November 11, 2013, 09:48:35 AM
On another area , the new brıdge (Old Upsıde down one) they have reached thıs area wıth makıng a brıck wall to support the banks when the raıns start and ıt looks good. They also have pıles of soıl around that area so maybe makıng a play area and exercıse park or a garden area, maybe not. Also they were on a clean up campaıgn thıs mornıng of all the rubbısh (garden ect) that has been dumped besıde the bıns ın that area.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Rimms on November 11, 2013, 10:01:13 AM
Don't worry about the rainwater drain grids, they sit on a concrete collar, when it comes to laying the new road, they will remove the existing grid and either reduce or build up the collar to bring the drain into line with the street level.

We had it here for 18 months from ripping up the road (which we had earlier paid for) and installing the rainwater drainage and removing the overhead power to completing the block paving 2 weeks ago, it was 18 months of hell and something I bitterly complained about on here many times. Strangely, the whole project seemed to go unnoticed by the neighbours, any complaint to them returned a Turkish shoulder shrug.

It's almost a comedy watching the way this progresses, jobs are continually done, undone and re-done due to what appears to be a complete lack of planning, when they finally completed our block paving we awoke one morning to the house shaking and I'm serious when I say it was much, much worse than the earthquake last year, it turned out to be the biggest steam roller I've ever seen driving up and down the road to give the block paves a final flattening, the outcome was that the broken bits of stone and pebbles that were covering the block paves after the work ended up cracking and breaking many of the paves under the heavy roller !

On the bright side, the road won't flood during the winter storms and we won't be traipsing mud onto our balcony when we come in from the street during wet weather, the dust has reduced by 90% and the traffic noise has also reduced.

On the downside, the neighbours continue to throw rubbish into the road, fail to clean up any dog sh*t and think it's quite acceptable to park a car and then dump ashtrays, tissues, water bottles and any other unwanted stuff onto the road.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: janmack on November 11, 2013, 11:06:09 AM
Phil actually came across some plans in one of the workers barrows one day when he was walking our dog so the guy in the council was obviously talking total BS >:(   It's the shrug of the shoulder and the slight smirk on the face when you try to talk these people which really annoys me!
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: kevmclean2001 on November 24, 2013, 23:10:58 PM
any updates or recent pictures please
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: kayakebab on November 25, 2013, 05:58:30 AM
Best you don't see photos. it seriously looks like a bombs gone off.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: philrose on November 25, 2013, 06:33:18 AM
Well let's put it this way. Wellington boots are no longer optional when out walking.....
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Jack13 on November 25, 2013, 09:15:49 AM
and still no internet after 4 weeks.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: desmartinson on November 25, 2013, 10:16:46 AM
I bet they still charge you for it though Jack, happened to a couple on our complex last year. :(
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Jack13 on November 25, 2013, 13:42:36 PM
fortunately we have all Turkish neighbours des. I would IMAGINE they would not be best pleased. watch this space.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Janbee on November 25, 2013, 21:45:50 PM
There are huge parking bays and I still see cars parked on the pavement at a strange angle!  ;D
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: janmack on November 26, 2013, 06:50:48 AM
We have parking bays outside our house now...how lovely.  As for having Turkish neighbours Jack13...we do too and it makes no difference.  One of them is a retired congressman and despite calling the polis and everybody he could think of to try to prevent the vandalism to the trees and plants on our road, the council just went ahead and told them they could not be stopped.  Sick to death of it all!!
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: kevmclean2001 on December 18, 2013, 00:23:24 AM
hi any new pictures of the latest roadworks around lissa links area
i appreciate its not been much fun living around the works
however i cant wait to the new year to get back out and hopefully my daily cycles will be a bit more comfortable on the backside
when work is complete
thanks in advance
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: janmack on December 18, 2013, 10:54:06 AM
They're digging up the roads for more drains...again...no idea why.  Think it's going to take quite some time before the work will be done and cycling round Lissa Park/Links and many other roads is not recommended:(
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Scunner on December 18, 2013, 11:03:20 AM
Jan and others may remember when chaos was caused by restricting vehicle access in Calis centre to put the central reservations in - on Baris Mango and the aquapark road. They are just two parallel rows of high kerbstones filled with soil really. Firstly they put the two rows of kerbing in (eventually). Then they filled the middle with soil. Then next day they brought the palm trees. Then someone realised that tree roots are way wider than tree trunks. 4 Paving slabs were knocked out (two each side) for each tree, every 10 metres or so along the central reservations. The tree sunk was then into it's hole. Then the 4 kerbstones were cemented back in.

This was a completely separate operation to the one where they came one day and filled the same central reservations with beautiful orange and yellow marigolds. It looked fabulous, absolutely brimming with colour. Then two days later men came and removed every single one.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: kevmclean2001 on January 02, 2014, 02:26:40 AM
Any updates please
One of the only complaints we have had from friends an family about Calis were the state of the roads
And pavements, hoping to tell them all good for next year
Thank you
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: janmack on January 02, 2014, 06:26:43 AM
Very slow progress.  They are laying the pavements round Lissa Park/Links.  Poor workmanship, roads are a nightmare and muck everywhere when it rains...it has to be seen to be believed really.  I wish I could say they are doing a good job but I cannot in all honesty. (I have tried to attach some photos but it keeps coming up "file size exceeded".)
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: Bevsie56 on February 20, 2014, 15:31:59 PM
A couple of pics of the finished roads......................no more mud and dust  :)
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Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: ArtyMar on March 08, 2014, 13:55:20 PM
Aaahh, Bevsie, very envious! We're still waiting for the road outside our villa in Koca Calis, (by the forrest, down the road from the Angel Cafe/Bar) to be finished. Sule, our solicitor, is nagging the authorities for us, and we're hoping that after the mayoral elections, the road might finally be finished!! Quackers will be first to know, I bet!
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: quackers on March 09, 2014, 06:19:46 AM
You have a tree planted ın the trıangle at the bottom of the road apart from that stıll mud mud glorıous mud. Same our way as well. We are used to ıt now.
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: ArtyMar on March 12, 2014, 18:11:54 PM
Quackers, Sule suggested the possibility of a group of residents along the road getting together and paying for some lorry loads of suitable material to be dumped on the road to stop mud and dust. She seemed to think there would be no objection from the new Beledisi (if that's the equivalent of the Council). Maybe, but there could be objections from residents! What do you think?
Title: Re: road re surfacing
Post by: quackers on March 13, 2014, 05:30:27 AM
At the moment they are dıggıng up layıng pıpes and cables so we should waıt tıll after May electıons and then speak to the new Başkan in Fethiye. You wıll never get money from all owners and why should a few pay for the majorıty and passıng traffıc. If the rubble they have already put down ıs anythıng to go by ıt wıll be rocks and mud and no use to anyone and cost a fortune.It wıll never be perfect ın our area because ıts semı rural. I have seen worse roads ın Ciflık.