Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum => Topic started by: tiguan on November 25, 2013, 14:17:23 PM
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Dear All,
We have a development plan of a new concept which will be concentrated at your area Fethiye-Dalaman-Göcek-Dalyan. Hereby I would like to share our concept ideas and wait for your valuable responses. I would like to develop investment plan interactively with yourselves. At the end if there will be an opportunity come to a consensus with your expectation and feasibility of the investment we would like to start.
- In sarıgerme we have thermal water research and extraction licence and successfuly we have now hot water with good quality mineral content. All necessary test are done and result shows us that we have one of the best thermal water in western Turkey.
- Additionaly we have already a beautiful green land nearby the well.
- One of the investment plan is developing that land by building a "club structure" with closed and open thermal pool, tennis and or other additional sport facilities active 12 month 4 season.
- club will work on yearly membership basis.
- additionaly seperated territory for daily uses during summer.
- besides thermal water pools we plan "mud baths" (hygiene will be the most important priority here)
What do you think about concept, May I get your valuable opinions,
We are open to all positive and negative opinions , you shall say that sarıgerme is not close to Fethiye or say no by car in 45 min we will be there, comparing to istanbul 45 min is not to much :) Please all positive and negative opinions.
What shall be added to the concept.
What are the expectations of expat society
What are the requierments of expat society
We will be glad to here from you ....
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The concept sounds very nice and would no doubt be something that people living close to it would love and benefit from. As for people from Fethiye & Calis, I personally think it would be too far to travel to on a regular basis and therefore an annual membership would not work. Many people would have to rely on public transport and it is something that may not work in winter and during the summer months, people in Fethiye & Calis make their own entertainment etc. I wish you luck.
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Nice that they join don't introduce themselves and then the pitch >:(
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The concept sounds very nice and would no doubt be something that people living close to it would love and benefit from. As for people from Fethiye & Calis, I personally think it would be too far to travel to on a regular basis and therefore an annual membership would not work. Many people would have to rely on public transport and it is something that may not work in winter and during the summer months, people in Fethiye & Calis make their own entertainment etc. I wish you luck.
Dear Ray1951 , thanks for your contribution. In case of shuttle service let's say every hour "summer" and every 2 hour "winter" will not help accessibility of the club. Would you think still Fethiye will be far from club...
Adding tennis courts, restaurant+bar, paintball facility may promote the club and cause the people to spend time more then 1 hour.
This was what I mean developing the concept interactive, thanks again Ray1951
What do you think? Ray...
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Nice that they join don't introduce themselves and then the pitch >:(
Do not be angry on me teetee :)
My name is Yetkin and I was long time expat as well. I lived 6 years in Moscow and 2,5 years in Bucharest. My main concentration was construction. All types of buildings like shopping malls, office buildings, housing projects, hotels with 4 and 5 stars I have been constructed in the past. I did not lived but completed by coordinating some buildings in Libya as well.
Finally I turned back to Turkey. Moscow and Bucharest was cities with full of social alternatives comparing Fethiye and surrounding towns. But still I had the problem that many things do not fit to turkish citizen habits On the other side I am a Mugla based person I have a alot of relatives living around there and they were encouraging me on this concept. You know jiva beach resort in Calis they are relatives of mine. Recently I am in Istanbul.
Briefly I know what to be "expat" therefore to develop something focusing mainly expat citizens living at that area may be for all parties interest.
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Tiguan, I think TeeTee's point is that you have not introduced yourself to the forum before jumping in with an investment opportunity, which would be the normal way. It could land you in hot water. ;)
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bewva is correct you have basically joined the forum and then but up your "business idea" so you have not real interest other than attempting to get feedback/backing for your idea.
Rather cynical I would say ;)
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I am sorry but I did not wrote this post to get accused or to bother this forum.
Sorry for wasting your time ....
I tried to find the way to delete this post and membership to forum but could not figure out.
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I decided not to delete the topic initially because I found myself in charitable mood and viewed it as a genuine request for thoughts and guidance rather than a post that was directly advertising something. Of course that may have been coming but we would have dealt with anything as brash. I also tend to give a little more flexibility to new members who's first language isn't English - knowing exactly how CBF works can't always be obvious.
tiguan has PMed me to request the topic be deleted and his membership removed. For now I won't do that. It will be a pretty disappointing place where people see our membership as the very people to ask for advice, only to be chased off.
But it could just be Christmas cheer taking me over. I am genuinely interested in member comments on this.
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Firstly Apologies Tiguan, My reply was posted to put a (funny?) comment on regarding a thermal spa & hot water it was not meant to offend or for you to relinquish your membership so for that I apologise.
For what its worth I holiday in the Fethiye area a few times a year and possibly visit Saregerme beach at least once during that time. I probably would not though visit a thermal spa. I am not there in the winter months though but do feel that it is probably a bit far for me to consider it being a regular thing.
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You don't specify where this facility would be, but mention Sarigerme thermal water, so I'm guessing it will be located there?
Personally I feel that Sarigerme is one of the few hidden treasures left and should be left as it is. There are big hotels there but they've been made sympathetically to the surroundings and are unobtrusive.
The little town has just enough facilities without being tacky.
No rip off prices, reminds me of Olu Deniz 20 years ago, outstanding natural beauty, limited menu from a wooden shack. It's lovely.it still feels like Turkey, not many places do now.
I'm not a fan of modern facilities in unspoilt areas.
I know you mention Jiva resort... Sorry but I think it's ugly and spoils that end of the beach, we all know what happens here, open one lighting shop and 10 more will appear next door, sadly that will likely happen down in Koca Calis too, it will be full of all inclusive 5 star hotels and many restaurants and hotels will end up closing as a result. The resort many fell in love with will be totally different.
The Therme Maris Hotel in Dalaman offers thermal pool facilities and only a handful of people from here have visited, myself included. I certainly wouldn't want a yearly membership.
Dalyan is lovely for the thermal pool and mud bath experience and is lovely to take family and friends to visit on holiday, but I don't think many would go regularly for the health benefits if they had yearly membership.
We have tennis courts locally to us, and rarely see anyone other than Turkish children and adults using the facility. The ex pat population locally here tend to be a little older and fitness activities don't tend to be over subscribed.
I hope my input is useful. Obviously my opinions don't represent everyone, I tend to still live in the old days, in the Fethiye area I fell in love with many years ago and don't necessarily like all of the changes taking place locally. Many people love the changes.
Hopefully others will give you their feelings too.
I think coming onto a big forum to get ideas before starting such a big project was very sensible. Many businesses come and go because they don't do their research.
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I decided not to delete the topic initially because I found myself in charitable mood
Can tell you are not on your non-drinking mode then ;)
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I am actually :D
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I am actually :D
Ooops............never get it right!
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Thanks kayakebap for your feedback.
I had in mind to create a place where everybody can spend their time entertain get the benefits of thermal water inside green. I do not want a hotel. Just to use whole land as an entertainment park. Not to touch the trees (as min. as I can).
Below want to share the concept.
But I understand location will not be interesting for Fethiye even there will be shuttle.
As a result I can come to a point keep the land as it is for the future. I am making selling aggreements with hotels for the water already. But wanted an address for myself maybe :)
Lets try to understand the potential closer to sarıgerme finally and then decide. If there is not just sell water :)
(http://s12.postimg.org/z14vmf27t/Sar_germe_Layout.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/z14vmf27t/)
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Firstly Apologies Tiguan, My reply was posted to put a (funny?) comment on regarding a thermal spa & hot water it was not meant to offend or for you to relinquish your membership so for that I apologise.
For what its worth I holiday in the Fethiye area a few times a year and possibly visit Saregerme beach at least once during that time. I probably would not though visit a thermal spa. I am not there in the winter months though but do feel that it is probably a bit far for me to consider it being a regular thing.
sorry for misunderstanding...
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I cannot agree that the hotels are unobtrusive. the Hilton and also the Thomson AI holiday village are very large, at the end of the road admittedly but hardly unobtrusive. Many of the hotels in Sarigerme are all inclusive so this limits the amount of business any restaurant or bar outside of these hotels can do. There is a limited number of people on bed and breakfast board in this area This is not so in Calis, Fethiye and Oludeniz areas.Though I am not a great fan of all inclusive hotels, these are popular with many visitors here so there is a need for these if we are not to lose out to other resorts. I am sure many other people will still continue to use the existing hotels in Calis, Fethiye, Ovacik and Oludeniz that are not all inclusive, but there is an increasing number of people wanting all inclusive, not just British tourists though. I am also not a fan of modern facilities in unspoilt areas but know places have to move on and evolve, whether I like it or not. I first visited Oludeniz around 30 years ago and there was nothing there, but equally food available was not good, little could be purchased in the shops either there or in Fethiye. even basic items were difficult to find. Once this whole area started to develop, other goods started to become available, unfortunately ,this seemed to not be possible without the development.