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Other Local Resorts & Areas => Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum => Topic started by: lissa on November 28, 2013, 17:20:46 PM

Title: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: lissa on November 28, 2013, 17:20:46 PM
I have heard that Erdogan will visit Fethiye next sunday, 1st December, also Mugla and Marmaris on the Saturday. If so, security will be very tight, so expect lots of congestion in town!
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: stoop on November 28, 2013, 18:01:05 PM
Is he checking his new villa in Koca Calis ? Heard he was buying there.
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: usedbustickets on November 28, 2013, 18:08:29 PM
I'll get the flags out.
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: apollo on November 28, 2013, 18:10:42 PM
An opportunity for him and AKP to take advantage of the MHP/ Mayor debacle. The MHP have given another example of opposition parties inability to deny AKP election victories.
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: nelson on November 28, 2013, 18:33:40 PM
Looks like they will be building a Mosque in Calis soon
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: lissa on November 28, 2013, 18:34:11 PM
Also heard that Erdogan wants the restaurants along the promenade removed.......................
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Highlander on November 28, 2013, 18:38:37 PM
We heard he had bought this house



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Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Colwyn on November 28, 2013, 18:44:29 PM
In reply to Lissa-


If he did, it wouldn't be the first time an Erdogan visit to a seaside tourist resort was following by mass bulldozing of hotels, bars and restaurants. But I have only heard of this happening in non-AKP municipalities. Of course, all of these missing facilities will have to be replaced by new planning-approved schemes. I wonder if any AKP supporters will be awarded any of these? What do you think?
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: teetee on November 28, 2013, 18:48:09 PM
I heard it was this one which sits on its own   ;)

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Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Fran on November 28, 2013, 23:07:32 PM

We heard he had bought this house



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Ah the Hanel owners house/monstrosity that no-one ever seems to stay in.
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Scunner on November 28, 2013, 23:09:28 PM
But that's built on tourism land, surely once he's bought it he would have to order it's demolition  :)
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Boxerdogs on November 29, 2013, 05:13:30 AM
No you have it all wrong he is coming on Sunday do that he will be here for the keepfat on Monday
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: quackers on November 29, 2013, 09:29:27 AM
Just seen the Prime Minister and his entourage heading into Fethiye for a visit.
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: teetee on November 29, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
Me too   ;)


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Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: angieebabe on November 29, 2013, 14:09:29 PM
Was there any Bulldozers following him ..........
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Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Colwyn on November 29, 2013, 14:39:39 PM
Or a riot squad firing tear gas at anyone who wasn't applauding?
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: lissa on November 29, 2013, 17:55:12 PM
Colwyn, well the mayor of Fethiye,whigave permission for these restaurants to be built along the promenade did not join AK party after leaving MHP,instead joining DP. Maybe they hope he will change his mind and join AK?
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Colwyn on November 29, 2013, 18:16:42 PM
In August this year the mayor of Bodrum left the DP and, instead of joining AKP, joined the main opposition CHP. In September the government issued demolition warrants on new hotels within 100 metres of the sea.
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Rimms on November 30, 2013, 07:29:20 AM
I can see it now, the president sat in his office, elections looming, people rioting on the streets of Istanbul, billions wiped off the stock market, the value of the lira at an all time low fuelling massive inflation and his first thought's are ..... " I better check if there are any restaurants built near the seaside in Fethiye"

Do me a favour

Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: kayakebab on November 30, 2013, 07:59:32 AM
We need a like button George .
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: cef on November 30, 2013, 11:37:37 AM
In August this year the mayor of Bodrum left the DP and, instead of joining AKP, joined the main opposition CHP. In September the government issued demolition warrants on new hotels within 100 metres of the sea.

Bodrum Demolitions - :(

http://english.sabah.com.tr/economy/2013/11/30/bodrum-is-locked-and-sealed
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Colwyn on November 30, 2013, 11:44:33 AM
When Erdogan surveyed Bodrum incognito he flew over by helicopter to check things out. Seen any choppers over Fethiye?
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: JohnF on November 30, 2013, 11:46:52 AM
I can see it now, the president sat in his office, elections looming, people rioting on the streets of Istanbul, billions wiped off the stock market, the value of the lira at an all time low fuelling massive inflation and his first thought's are ..... " I better check if there are any restaurants built near the seaside in Fethiye"

Do me a favour



Bizarre as it may sound, that scenario is exactly what happened on the Bodrum peninsular.

Interestingly enough the property(s) owned by the Rixos Group emerged unscathed from the sh1t flying about in the Bodrum area.  The fact that the CEO of Rixos and RTE are buddies and that his son in law is also connected to the Rixos had no bearing on the decisions...  aye right!

JF
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Colwyn on November 30, 2013, 12:27:32 PM

Following his visit to Bodrum in August Erdogan said:
“This much unjustness is not acceptable. Development has almost expanded into the sea. There is not even a coastline. Housing will be in the sea in the next step if this continues ... The situation is catastrophic. We witnessed the sensitivity of those repeating the word environment all around ... It is not understandable how the local municipalities stood idle while these buildings were constructed. They may face legal prosecutions, and they may lose their posts. We are immediately starting inspections and punishments”.http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?pageID=517&nID=52704&NewsCatID=338 (http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?pageID=517&nID=52704&NewsCatID=338)
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Scunner on November 30, 2013, 13:29:07 PM

Following his visit to Bodrum in August Erdogan said:
“This much unjustness is not acceptable. Development has almost expanded into the sea”.

Well Fethiye (as Colwyn will know) is one step further than Bodrum in this respect. Where Shaka etc are now was the sea, there was nothing but water to the right of the coast road into Fethiye.

RTE may be quite unhappy.
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Dutchie on November 30, 2013, 17:25:48 PM
That stretch was filled up to prevent residential properties being torn down. I can't recall the exact number but there is a law saying that along the seafront there should be a stretch of 50? metres wide from the buildings.
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Scunner on November 30, 2013, 17:43:44 PM
So those restaurants should be worried...
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Marggie on December 01, 2013, 10:19:55 AM
There is a lot of helicopter activity flying above the Kordon today.  Time will tell if it has any relevance!!
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Scunner on December 01, 2013, 10:29:06 AM
Erdy checking out the seafront buildings  ;)
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Marggie on December 01, 2013, 10:39:24 AM
You never know!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: usedbustickets on December 01, 2013, 10:39:44 AM
Loads, and I mean loads, of AK Parti banners and pennants around the centre of Fethiye last night, in preparation for today's arrival of the great one.  They all lead down to the marina area.  So not sure if that is a clue to future demolitions or not : :)
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: kismetbar on December 01, 2013, 11:26:02 AM
Fethiye in complete lockdown!!! Has taken me 45 minutes to get to bar (a walk of five usually)!! Never seen so many police and interestingly, every single woman has their head covered!! Just an observation!
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Colwyn on December 01, 2013, 12:11:40 PM
I suppose most of these enthusiastic supporters have been bussed-in having turned out for RTE in Milas and Mugla over the last few days. Or am I getting carried away with my cynicism?
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: kismetbar on December 01, 2013, 12:12:36 PM
LOL! You and me both then!!!!  :D
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Liz 101 on December 01, 2013, 12:46:48 PM
On the plus side, I have just driven from Gunlukbasi to (original) Kipa in record time. Not a parked car in sight on either side of the road
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: yabanci on December 01, 2013, 12:56:41 PM
Nice to see Reg wearing his Fethiyespor scarf today.  :)
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Marggie on December 01, 2013, 17:12:18 PM
I suppose most of these enthusiastic supporters have been bussed-in having turned out for RTE in Milas and Mugla over the last few days. Or am I getting carried away with my cynicism?

Not at all, I am sure you are right.

We went the other way to Calis.  Any reports from anybody who went to Fethiye?
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Scunner on December 01, 2013, 17:14:50 PM
Nice to see Reg wearing his Fethiyespor scarf today.   :)

True

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Photo stolen from Jane Akatay's Facebook page...
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Menthol on December 01, 2013, 18:15:24 PM
I do hope the visit wont mean bulldozing businesses. I can't imagine anyone taking any pleasure from seeing that happen.
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: GordonA on December 01, 2013, 18:58:39 PM
We are so, so happy to be totally out of it all now, we  had our almost 10 years of Turkish life, now extremely pleased to be safely back in the U.K. where there are PROPER laws and guidelines as to when a property/properties can be deemed to be illegal, and subsequently bulldozed, and not just be destroyed at the whim of a megalomaniac dictatorial statesman, who, mark my words, will change ANY and ALL statutes on the books, in order to further his own agenda, and to further feather the nests of his cronies, and family.
I firmly believe that we "got out" at the right time, and I am certain that within the next 12/18 months, many more will follow !!
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: Rimms on December 01, 2013, 21:18:53 PM
Gordon, love you as I do, you are talking total rubbish.
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: GordonA on December 01, 2013, 22:16:09 PM
Really George?? As much as we both absolutely LOVE you, and your sense of humour, let us just "suck it and see" shall we ??    ;) ;D
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: usedbustickets on December 02, 2013, 13:00:45 PM
I'm pretty much with Gordon's analysis on this.  The great one is a megalomaniac, and he is surrounded by family and supporters who are in it to simply to line their own pockets, and personal power trips.  The question that remains unanswered is will the Turkish opposition - and possibly large number of disaffected AK supporters - get it together to start to peg him back over the next 12-18 months?  I hope so, as the risk is that Turkey could quickly become like Egypt before the army stepped in and since.  And nobody wants that apart from the extremist islamists.
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: happy_flyer on December 02, 2013, 20:13:10 PM
Me and Sue thought we'd make the effort of going to have a look and see how close we could get. I went with my long lens camera just in case i couldn't get close enough. ( more on that in a bit )

Anyway on the bus which was packed full of pretty ladies and well dressed men all heading for the same place.
As we rounded the corner by the otogar and down towards the town we were impressed by number of flags and banners that fluttered in the breeze.
 The road was closed from the Mosque down to the town so after we got off the dolmus we walked down that road towards town, hundreds of people all heading in the same direction.
With all the road and pavements closures we were steered down past The Mulberry tree and the duck pond all the way down to the harbour.
Wow not a boat in sight to the right, there were a few over on the left towards the passport police, but the main harbour area was just a water front all the trip boats gone every last one gone. Just open water all the way out to the sea.
We were starting to get very excited about what we were going to see and quiet caught up in the moment with all the people heading for  the square and the chance of seeing possibly the Turkish Prime Minister.
Along the waterfront we went until we to the back of MIGROS by the fountain and our way was blocked again by security barriers and guards with detectors and dogs and all sorts of stuff.
So we queued up for our shakedown along with everyone else, our turn arrived and we were patted down by security, both passed muster and then the question : Whats in the bags ?
Sue said ladies handbag stuff, so they searched it contents for all to see, no problem she was in yayyyy. My turn , he opened my carrier to find my camera, he looked up at me and said. "  Press ? "
Me " No Public Visitor "
He said   " No entry "
Me   " Sorry ? "
He said  " You have camera and your not press no entry please leave ".


I called to Sue I'm not aloud in because of my camera and i don't work for the press.
Can you imagine her poor little face at the thought of going through all that excitement only to fall at the last hurdle ?

Gutted was not in it.

We walked back along the harbour thinking what shall we do now.

Fethiye town was on a virtual lock down because of the visit so we decided to call it a day and head home again as there was going to be no chance of seeing anything or anybody.

Total waste of a day.

If he comes back again again some day we will not be making the effort ever again.

I hope he enjoyed his visit to Fethiye but its not the Fethiye we all know and love that he saw.
Just the polished up shiny bits put into place for him.

Oh well his loss.     
 
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: angieebabe on December 03, 2013, 08:31:30 AM
No matter where you are in the world , All leaders have the same effect , ie Lockdowns and very tight Security, mainly due to the amount of nut cases in this world who have different opinions on life and how they think it should be lived.  Pity,,, but  I'm sure it was not a personal vendetta just because you had a Camera..
Title: Re: Visit by Prime Minister
Post by: janmack on December 03, 2013, 09:30:29 AM
I agree with Gordon's observations...have felt that way for 3-4 years now:(  I don't feel particularly safe here any longer.