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Title: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: Scunner on December 27, 2013, 22:20:56 PM
Police and protesters clashed during a march to Taksim Square in Istanbul on Friday evening. As the first groups of anti-government demonstrators began marching up the busy Istiklal shopping street, police deployed water canons and tear gas to clear them from the area before the protest had begun.

Some protesters fought back with rocks and glass battles, while tourists and shoppers quickly fled the area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDKbwkoaAX8
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: keng38 on December 27, 2013, 23:55:38 PM
There's alot of unrest again.
Apparently the government passed a law to be informed of police investigations before the police act which has now been overturned by the court.
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: calvin 1949 on December 28, 2013, 05:36:59 AM
Also riots in Ankara !! troubled times again !!

Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: Gorgeous_bird on December 28, 2013, 07:46:05 AM
Protests in Mugla on Sunday are planned
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: Ian on December 28, 2013, 13:21:05 PM
Protests in Mugla on Sunday are planned

That's probably the annual "price of efes protests" by the expats  in the region  ;)
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: apollo on December 28, 2013, 14:12:24 PM
Protests in Mugla on Sunday are planned

That's probably the annual "price of efes protests" by the expats  in the region   ;)

Par for the course. After only four posts on a serious subject........,
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: KKOB on December 28, 2013, 14:20:56 PM
Sorry, I was out.  ;)
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: Scunner on December 28, 2013, 14:25:02 PM
...we get someone who can't use "reply with quote" :D
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: KKOB on December 28, 2013, 14:40:28 PM
...we get someone who can't use "reply with quote" :D

Yeah, what an idiot silly person !

Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: Ian on December 28, 2013, 15:46:32 PM
In my defence - the inference was meant to mean that Mugla tend to "follow" as opposed to "leading" in relation to matters political. Being a region that is heavily dependent on tourism it generally only gets excited about matters that affect tourism.

So back on topic - I know they had protests in Fethiye in July - but I was there - and they were very civilised. A few days later I was in Izmir staying in a hotel that was 100 yds from the armoured cars and water cannons - but that isn't in Mugla.

It is a very serious situation and I wouldn't want to undermine or belittle it but I am pretty sure that on this occasion the destiny of Turkey will not be settled in Mugla.
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: JohnF on December 28, 2013, 16:23:22 PM
For the voyeuristic amongst us, coverage on:

http://www.halkhaber.tv/page-halk-canliyayin (http://www.halkhaber.tv/page-halk-canliyayin)  sporadic

and

http://www.livestream.com/revoltistanbul (http://www.livestream.com/revoltistanbul)  sometimes live, sometimes recorded

Was pretty brutal last night and more expected tonight.  Like the summer, everything spilled over into the streets surrounding Istiklal with groups of Polis chasing folks with the express intention of giving them a right good hiding. 

No video of it as yet, but a bunch of Polis cornered a group in Cihanger and before they could wade in were pelted with bags of flour, sugar and the contents of about a dozen flats cat litter trays.  The young folks managed to escape and my friend ended up wondering where her cats were going to sh1t.

Happy not to be there.

JF
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: Ian on December 28, 2013, 16:31:04 PM
I do hope Erdogan is big enough to step down and put country first - although he has always been a "street fighter" and sadly he may continue to fight to the detriment of his people and his country.
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: Marggie on December 28, 2013, 17:09:18 PM
Yes, how long can he resist?  Think he will fight to the bitter end.

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist/mumtazer-turkone_335120_how-long-can-erdogan-resist.html
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: GordonA on December 28, 2013, 18:17:30 PM
Newspaper shut-down next ??
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: FrankStanley on December 28, 2013, 20:16:26 PM
Well said Apollo.
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: Gorgeous_bird on December 29, 2013, 08:22:09 AM
My point about Mugla is simply that this is not something confined to the bigger cities, people across Turkey are protesting and actually when it spreads to the smaller places it shows the true scale of the protest in Turkey. My very good friend in Turkey is a political activist in the area and he me posted on what is going on, he feels confident the people will win this.
Title: Re: Istanbul: Police blast anti-Erdogan protesters
Post by: maximumtom on December 29, 2013, 18:34:08 PM
Newspaper shut-down next ??

The Hurriyet Daily News has stopped posting comments on the troubles.   I think the 'sultan' is as likely to resign as Hitler would have been in the 1930.  You might think that the comparison is a little over the top, but when you look at what has gone on ... Turkey has more journalists in jail than any other country; the Gezi park confrontation,  the raids by police on the homes of people who took part in the Gezi riots; the slow but sure Islamisation of the country detroying the secular legacy of Ataturk; the continued persecution of minorities, such as Alevi, Christians, etc; the number of people prosecuted for disagreeing with the 'sultan'; the imprisonment of army officer for 'supposedly' hatching a coup ( no trials yet ).  I may have left some things out or made the odd mistake, but the general trend of anti-democratic moves by this government is undeniable. Not to mention (for the hardcore of readers) the rise in alcohol tax.