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Title: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: chinarepairs on January 13, 2014, 17:43:49 PM
A dreadful day in Turkey today. I and my 3 friends saw first hand a Turkish man shoot 2 beautiful Akbash dogs by a water stand on the Fethiye, Uzumlu road. The screams from the dogs was dreadful. An experience I will never forget. One dog died within minutes the other ran away with bullet wounds. The Jandarma did not care. Two passing Turkish men tried to help, but there was nothing they could do. AA telephone line not manned, so no help there. Another dog dead by the bin near Uzumlu, shot or run over we don't know. Another beautiful, well kept dog. What is happening? Why kill these wonderful dogs when they have recently been well kept and these type of dogs wouldn't hurt a fly!
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: Scunner on January 13, 2014, 18:43:02 PM

AA telephone line not manned, so no help there.


As I understand it AA are a charity organisation that raise money to help animals locally.
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: echogirl1 on January 13, 2014, 21:21:56 PM
So very upset to read this post, why on earth would someone want to shoot 2 perfectly healthy dogs, doing no harm to anyone.  Where were the AA in this situation??
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: Scunner on January 13, 2014, 21:29:54 PM

Where were the AA in this situation??

I'd be interested to know what you think AA (once again a charity organisation that raise funds to help local animals) would have done and why you think it is on some way unacceptable that they didn't answer the phone?

Maybe you are confusing them with the SAS, they could have sent Tinkerman in to wrestle the armed man to the floor - or maybe just to come and remove the animals?

It is horrific to have to see such an act and my sympathies are with you, but perhaps people have the wrong idea when it comes to AA?
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: Highlander on January 13, 2014, 21:53:35 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: KKOB on January 13, 2014, 22:43:48 PM
Why kill these wonderful dogs when they have recently been well kept and these type of dogs wouldn't hurt a fly!

Because Turks think it's macho. Just the same as they do when they beat or kill their wives or daughters.
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: kayakebab on January 14, 2014, 06:50:31 AM
The shelter is so close by, why not take them there?
Just disgraceful.

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Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: angela on January 14, 2014, 10:13:16 AM
I don't think I would ever get over witnessing something like that, but sadly no one and nothing could have stopped it realistically (barring shooting the shooter!)
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: echogirl1 on January 14, 2014, 10:23:30 AM
I was not suggesting that AA could have stopped the incident, lawfully, or by "wrestling the armed man to the ground" but I was more worried about the dog who ran away, nursing bullet wounds.  Did it die in agony somewhere?  Not a question I am expecting that anyone can answer. :(
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: angela on January 14, 2014, 10:40:15 AM
horrible thought isn't it. I find animal cruelty much harder to bear than human in some ways (despite being a member of the so called "caring profession" )
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: Scunner on January 14, 2014, 10:44:58 AM

Because Turks think it's macho. Just the same as they do when they beat or kill their wives or daughters.

Maybe "some Turks" would have been more accurate KKOB.
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: angela on January 14, 2014, 11:23:48 AM
agreed, as in some Brits etc, as well documented every day!
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: KKOB on January 14, 2014, 11:51:41 AM
Sorry, been reading the Daily Mail far too much just lately. Forgot about accuracy.  ;)
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: KKOB on January 14, 2014, 11:53:22 AM
Because some Turks think it's macho. Just the same as they do when they beat or kill their wives or daughters.
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: cobbydalers on January 14, 2014, 12:14:17 PM
As I understand the situation yesterday, when two AA volunteers were contacted the incident had happened but they acted immediately upon being told and did all they could to help, sadly the dogs were already dead.  As AA volunteers ourselves we do what we can, when we can, where we can, sadly the outcome is not always what we would hope for. We are still awaiting news of the dog that ran away but I believe a search is ongoing. As Scunner says we are a charitable organisation our remit being a neuter and return scheme but we do our utmost to help any animal in a distressful situation.   
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: Scunner on January 14, 2014, 12:33:43 PM
I doubt anyone could disagree about the cruelty and the shock of seeing such an event. Does anyone have any idea why he did it?
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: SJK on January 14, 2014, 14:47:20 PM
I cycle frequently up that road to Uzumlu and have seen these dogs there before, noticed them probably three months ago. There are always dogs about but these looked like dogs which you see often with shepherds. The man can have been a shepherd, for all we know they may have attacked his livestock. Doesn't of course justify this sort of cold blooded murder
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: Cavfan on January 14, 2014, 15:31:35 PM
like a lot of people I found this upsetting to read about. As visitors of some 25 years now it shouldnt suprise me. we have over the years witnessed many shocking incidents regarding animals but none like the one described. For instance we have been visiting long enough to remember the bear walking up and down the prom for tourists to have their pictures with, we have witnessed the bayram traditions first hand - the sheep/goat slaughtering , at least now they keep it away from the promenade and limit it to the village. We have seen chefs at barbeques 'brand' a dog for their own amusement. These along with many other cultural differences will always seem shocking to us. Someone told us once that people could hardly afford to feed themselves never mind animals and that Brits were an enigma to them in the way that we consider our animals as part of the family! This year for example one of the people on our complex was keeping a dog tethered outside all day and night. She fed it, walked it and made sure she moved it when the sun moved round to keep it in the shade, but it was tethered all the same. It really upset us but there was nothing we could say or do about it. As potty dog owners we couldnt understand why she even wanted a dog?
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: kayakebab on January 14, 2014, 15:43:27 PM
On the same road 2 weeks ago my daughter saw a cow tied up by its feet bring slaughtered. It really upset her.
Just surprises me its all happening on a main road like its just a normal thing to happen.
Maybe it is in their eyes but it's just not what we expect to see


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Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: angela on January 14, 2014, 15:50:05 PM
Very true, what does normal mean to anyone.  I kiss my dogs goodbye every time I leave the house, but I have colleagues who would chew razor blades rather than kiss a "filthy mutt"
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: chinarepairs on January 15, 2014, 18:57:07 PM
The latest information about the 2 shot dogs by a water fountain on the Uzumlu/Fethiye road on Monday morning. I was one of the witnesses to the shooting. Myself and my 3 women passengers witnessed the shootings, which took place as I stopped the car and tried to stop the man from doing this deed.  Unfortunately he was already in action, he shot and killed one and while it was screaming the other dog went over to it, then this second dog was shot.  The man ran away down the ravine as soon as we got out of the car.  The second injured dog also ran off down the ravine, screaming in pain.  The first dog died very quickly, before we could help it.  Two Turkish men stopped and helped us, they really cared about what happened and one (who spoke English) rang the Jandarma. The Jandarma came but could not do anything. We understand the Uzumlu Beladere took away the carcas of the 1st dog, plus a 3rd dog dead at the waste bin by the turn to the Urantas site, this dog may have been shot we don't know. Yesterday my husband and I went back to the site and we spotted the 2nd dog, it was dead. Today we were introduced the the owner of the 2 shot dogs, he is a shepherd, he retrieved the body of his dog, went down on his knees and cried.  Myself and one other witness went to the Jandarma with the shepherd and reported the incident.  A man has now been identified as the killer of these 2 shepherd dogs.  Lets hope the law acts correctly in this case.  Atrocities happen worldwide, but I hope never to witness such a thing again.
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: echogirl1 on January 15, 2014, 22:10:28 PM
For Gods sake why did he do it, the dogs were owned and loved by someone, he must be deranged to do such a thing.
Title: Re: Two Dogs Shot by a Turk
Post by: suehugh on January 15, 2014, 23:57:24 PM
Great credit to china repairs for trying to stop the atrocity. There are not many people who would get involved