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Title: Snake in the pool
Post by: Marg on April 05, 2014, 12:14:04 PM
My husband wants to know how long a snake can live underwater! He spotted one in our pool yesterday afternoon and trapped it under a net under water. It was still alive this morning!!!
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 05, 2014, 12:40:58 PM
Depends on the snake.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 05, 2014, 12:57:23 PM
Do you seriously have to kill it? Get it netted and fling it over the fence...
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Marg on April 05, 2014, 13:01:44 PM
Yes I'll tell him that. Hopefully the thing will be too traumatised by it's experience to want to come back!!
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: loz on April 05, 2014, 13:18:06 PM
Kill it! no option
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scott and Lisa on April 05, 2014, 13:35:33 PM
Is this common?
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 05, 2014, 13:37:07 PM
Do you seriously have to kill it? Get it netted and fling it over the fence...

I'm sure your neighbours will love you for it.

Get it out of the pool and let it loose somewhere away from houses.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 05, 2014, 13:38:03 PM
Is this common?

Common Beach Forum ? Nah !  ;)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Marg on April 05, 2014, 13:57:46 PM
The snake has been disposed of by our maintenance man! We have fields at the back of us which is probably where it came from in the first place so I presume it has been returned there -or otherwise disposed of!!
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 05, 2014, 13:59:39 PM
I'd say it was common - I've seen snakes in pools there quite often
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: quackers on April 05, 2014, 14:30:34 PM
Got a black one happıly lıvıng ın our garden wall and I have seen ıt headıng for the pool for a swım.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 05, 2014, 14:49:21 PM
I think we would have fished it out with the net and let it go in the fields.  I believe that snakes were there a long time before we built our Villas, so why kill them?
I remember the first time we saw a crab walking along the bottom of our pool.  The Gardener said it was a fresh water crab from the ditches at the back of the houses.   We have seen a few since and always fish them out and put them back. 
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scott and Lisa on April 05, 2014, 18:43:37 PM
Do you mean the human kind Scunner?
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 05, 2014, 18:45:11 PM
No I meant the carnivorous reptiles of the suborder Serpentes kind, but now you mention it...
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Sunny Boy on April 05, 2014, 18:51:33 PM
Got a black one happıly lıvıng ın our garden wall and I have seen ıt headıng for the pool for a swım.

Chances are this is a grass snake they do grow quite large to about 4 - 5 foot in length and are harmless.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 05, 2014, 19:03:58 PM
Got a black one happıly lıvıng ın our garden wall and I have seen ıt headıng for the pool for a swım.

Chances are this is a grass snake they do grow quite large to about 4 - 5 foot in length and are harmless.

Or it could be a Western Whip Snake. There's a black variety of it that's common in Turkey. They'll hiss and become aggressive and will bite if cornered or grabbed but they're not venomous

Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Ray1951 on April 05, 2014, 19:35:06 PM
Forget the snake in the pool and watch out for the snakes out and about who will scam you, rip you off and try to swindle you.  There are a lot of them out there, trying to scam you for exchange etc.  Keep your wits about you.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 05, 2014, 20:07:08 PM
I had a fairly frantic phonecall from Mrs Scunner one afternoon after an incident with a black snake in our garden. The school bus had just dropped the kids off and as they walked in through the gate the driver (who had never once spoken a word of English in 2 years) started shouting, "Black snake!! 2 Metres!! Get in House!!" - well the dog went for the snake, the snake went for the dog, and the dog ran inside.

I went round with a Turkish friend who is absolutely petrified of snakes and we nervously checked the garden, under this and that. Then a carrier bag, it seemed to have something coiled up inside. I got a stick (no way I was opening the bag by hand) and as my friend stood behind me and some distance back, I managed to get the bag on the stick and turn it upside down. We all looked nervously as out slid...no word of a lie...

A bicycle tyre inner tube!!!

Boy did we run backwards at some rate :D

Never ever saw the snake though   :)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 05, 2014, 21:03:29 PM
My other half arrived here yesterday. He goes out for a smoke on the terrace and is confronted for the first time by our scorpion. We've called him Scunner. For the alliteration of course.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Lotty on April 05, 2014, 21:54:56 PM
Heh- heh! How long are you out there Menthol?
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 05, 2014, 22:01:56 PM
Not for much longer if she doesn't change the name of that scorpion
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scott and Lisa on April 05, 2014, 22:10:03 PM
I really didn't know there were do many snakes, I'm petrified of them
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 05, 2014, 22:18:46 PM
I found this one dead at the end of our street

(http://calisvilla.co.uk/snake1.jpg)


(http://calisvilla.co.uk/snake2.jpg)


It's all a tad drier these days but you'd regularly see black snakes basking around the small streams that run parallel to the sokaks in Calis.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 05, 2014, 22:27:43 PM
And from CBF 2008


(http://www.calisvilla.co.uk/suesnake2.jpg)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scott and Lisa on April 05, 2014, 22:38:48 PM
That's me scared every time I go then, I really should get over it, I don't know why they bother me so much
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 05, 2014, 22:54:02 PM
They do tend to scurry off as quickly as possible when you see them - I don't recall anyone ever having an injury or incident with a snake in the area. Most are harmless anyway. When provoked (like when dogs have a go) they can stick up for themselves, so just ignore them.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 05, 2014, 23:06:10 PM
Your chances of seeing one when you're out there for a holiday are pretty slim.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Susiepink on April 06, 2014, 05:55:04 AM
So, all this talk of harmless snakes, are there any that we should be aware of that are dangerous? If so what do they look like please? I'm petrified of snakes, it's my biggest phobia
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: quackers on April 06, 2014, 06:02:14 AM
Also be careful of tortoıses. They carry salmonella ın theır faeces. Wash your hands ıf you pıck them up.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 06, 2014, 07:05:05 AM
So, all this talk of harmless snakes, are there any that we should be aware of that are dangerous? If so what do they look like please? I'm petrified of snakes, it's my biggest phobia

There are 45 species of snake known to inhabit Turkey. 11 are venomous. The most dangerous is probably the Ottoman Viper.

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR9KXy1Dl356BNovARtmPBhP_gjTJliZYzxdbTKTViW5w0c4t2ScA)

You've probably got more chance of winning the lottery than you have of coming face-to-face with an Ottoman Viper.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Susiepink on April 06, 2014, 07:24:37 AM
Thanks KKOB, I feel much better now :-(
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: bewva on April 06, 2014, 07:30:14 AM
Snakes don't bother me its the Scunner's oops scorpions that I don't fancy stumbling on.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 06, 2014, 07:56:56 AM
Our Scunner is so big now, bewva, you can HEAR him scuttle across the terrace.

Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: desmartinson on April 06, 2014, 08:04:14 AM
Most people can hear our  Keith scuttle across the terrace. especially after a night on the Efes.  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scott and Lisa on April 06, 2014, 09:17:13 AM
Thatnk you, some sensible replies and advice
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 06, 2014, 10:01:18 AM
It's the little jumping spiders that I dislike.  They seem to face you up with attitude.  There are always lots in our garden and in the house.  They give a sore bite 
I do like the little lizards, unfortunately, so does our local cat who, when we are over leaves us little presents of dead lizards outside the door.
We also had a huge centipede crawling up the settee one night, it was horrible. but we did not kill it, we put it out in the fields.  I believe they are quite harmful.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Lotty on April 06, 2014, 10:07:09 AM
We had one of those enormous centipedes when we were in Karagosler, it went behind a fitted unit never to be seen again. Quite unnerving! Also bitten by one of those spiders while opening up a folding sun chair - so be careful if it's been stored away for a while. Nasty bite.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: mercury on April 06, 2014, 10:27:35 AM
Most horrible thing we saw was a bat moth... Really big thing flying about on our balcony one night.. Not that I hung around to watch it!!!! Its funny how you get used to all sorts of creepy crawlies walking around your home in Turkey after a while.. I would have had screaming ab dabs at one time.. Same with the huge hornets seen around the pools in Summer.. If you don't bother them they don't bother you and it IS their country.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 06, 2014, 12:41:46 PM
What about the bats - we used to get in the pool at dusk and keep still and quiet - they'd swoop down and take a drink on the way through. The kids used to love that  :)

Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Bluwise on April 06, 2014, 13:29:53 PM
Its funny how you get used to all sorts of creepy crawlies walking around your home in Turkey after a while.. I would have had screaming ab dabs at one time..

I'm still at the screaming ab dabs stage and probably always will be.  My best-est friend in the world when on hols, is my can of cucaracha spray!!
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 06, 2014, 13:40:19 PM
Most horrible thing we saw was a bat moth... Really big thing flying about on our balcony one night..

What you probably saw was an Oleander Hawk Moth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphnis_nerii
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: ceni on April 06, 2014, 14:22:28 PM
I lived in Kayakoyu full time for over 6 years and I've only ever seen one snake, I wouldn't worry yourself silly if you're frightened of them.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 06, 2014, 17:37:27 PM
My apologies to Sue on behalf of my husband. We met Sue at Calis market today and he says he's sorry for scaring you even more and talking about man eating snakes.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: mercury on April 06, 2014, 20:13:40 PM
What ever it was I am pleased that I may never see one again
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Susiepink on April 07, 2014, 06:23:52 AM
My apologies to Sue on behalf of my husband. We met Sue at Calis market today and he says he's sorry for scaring you even more and talking about man eating snakes.
Haha, I didn't sleep last night thinking about what Jav was telling me ! He's a delight your husband!
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: angela on April 07, 2014, 10:57:07 AM
I'm not keen on the scorpion even if he is called  Kei   Scunner, but I must say I revert to childhood and have a fascination for all things creepy crawly when I am over there. Most of the snakes I've seen have been dead, but we met a massive one warming himself in the sun in Dalyan early one morning.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 07, 2014, 15:37:58 PM
My apologies to Sue on behalf of my husband. We met Sue at Calis market today and he says he's sorry for scaring you even more and talking about man eating snakes.
Haha, I didn't sleep last night thinking about what Jav was telling me ! He's a delight your husband!

Jav says he gave you the advice not to scare you but as a survival tip - 'always carry a knife in your back pocket so that you can cut your way out of a snake when it swallows you'. Courtesy of the film, 'Anaconda'.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: sadler on April 07, 2014, 19:17:49 PM
Ha ha with friends like you Menthol ................ love it.  ;D ;D ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: paz on April 10, 2014, 02:16:46 AM
I am a snake lover and current owner of five, including 2 boa constrictors, the largest being 8 foot and 48 pounds in weight. I understand many are frightened of them, but believe me, this is no reason to harm them as they are more frightened of us. I lived and walked in California rattlesnake territory purposely looking for snakes and when confronted even those will only shy away unless provoked. I feel totally deprived if I holiday in Turkey and don't see a snake. I look for them, see the water snakes every day and have been lucky enough to see the "big black ones" just darting away as I approach. I have gone out of my way to catch snakes abroad not even knowing their species, and being bitten, very stupid!!!. But most snakes are harmless and it upsets me terribly that people kill them through fear and lack of knowledge. I am proud to say that I have brought many friends and family round to learn to tolerate and even admire snakes. Knowledge is the key. If there are snakes in your area, find out what kind they are and give them respect.  Deb
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: chris35 on April 10, 2014, 10:01:37 AM


What you probably saw was an Oleander Hawk Moth.




Totally fascinated by these small creatures. First time I saw one I thought it was a hummingbird. I remember a few years ago they turned up in our town just outside Manchester, someone phoned the local radio station to report it. We are spoiled for wildlife over in Turkey.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 10, 2014, 20:35:28 PM
Totally agree about the bountiful wildlife!

So far during my time in Turkey I have seen:

turtles
tortoises
wild boar
bats
rabbits
water snakes
numerous birds including an eagle (!) about a week ago (distressingly we also witnessed it being shot)
hawkmoth - thought it was a bat at first!
scorpion
cricket/grasshopper - today in Tuzla, it was about 5 inches long and a very dull dusty colour
numerous other unidentified and very large insects - are the very black, very large bumble bee looking things actually bees? Saw loads yesterday at the beach in Olu.

Still not seen a land snake or a lizard.
Still not seen the Calis kingfishers
Heard that there are foxes, hedgehogs and porcupines in Ovacik but not spotted any as yet
Am dying to spot dolphins and seals on a boat trip

Anything else I need to add to my 'Must look out for' list?
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: paz on April 10, 2014, 21:12:24 PM
The large "black" beetles that buzz are actually fruit beetles. Different types range in colour, most have an irredescent blue or purple underside/wings. They feed on fruits, especially figs. Often called "June Bugs".
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: paz on April 10, 2014, 21:22:32 PM
Yes, Menthol, about that list.  We have seen the kingfishers, an otter in Fethiye and by canal several years later. We have seen a hedgehog in at Mutlu hotel grounds, bright green, quite large lizards around Club E, pelicans, numerous herons, bee-eaters from Africa (birds) and all the other "usual" stuff, not yet the dolphins, though. Hopefully all the wildlife, if left to recover from the building work over recent years will get back to it's former glory.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 10, 2014, 21:31:20 PM
What are the bee like things that are often referred two as "two bodied" bees? Are they the ones that you are discussing? Scare people to death first time they see them but are pretty harmless as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: scorcher on April 10, 2014, 21:35:31 PM
Ah you mean Gordybugs !
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: paz on April 10, 2014, 21:40:07 PM
I have seen very large black wasps with orange wings which are the same as the "tarantula hawk wasp" we used to have in California. These have very distinct divided bodies. Not to be messed with!
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 10, 2014, 21:44:23 PM
Cheers paz I'll stop thinking how harmless they might be :D
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: paz on April 10, 2014, 21:47:48 PM
Sorry, maybe I should say "appear" the same...there are hundreds of varieties of insects out there...Deb
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 10, 2014, 22:16:19 PM
I have seen very large black wasps with orange wings which are the same as the "tarantula hawk wasp" we used to have in California. These have very distinct divided bodies. Not to be messed with!

They're Hornets, or B52s as we used to call them.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 10, 2014, 22:18:40 PM
Menthol, you've also got a good chance of seeing Chameleons, Storks, Hoopoes, European Rollers, Bee Eaters.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 10, 2014, 22:19:11 PM
Yes, Menthol, about that list.  We have seen the kingfishers, an otter in Fethiye and by canal several years later. We have seen a hedgehog in at Mutlu hotel grounds, bright green, quite large lizards around Club E, pelicans, numerous herons, bee-eaters from Africa (birds) and all the other "usual" stuff, not yet the dolphins, though. Hopefully all the wildlife, if left to recover from the building work over recent years will get back to it's former glory.

The Calis otters! I forgot about them. Not seen any of those either, yet. Seen herons but no pelicans. Going to have to Google the bee eaters to see if I have seen any of them. What are the large magpie looking birds with blue on their wing tips here called?

So the big, fat, black, buzzy things are actually beetles? Wow. Awesome.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 10, 2014, 22:25:34 PM
Menthol, you've also got a good chance of seeing Chameleons, Storks, Hoopoes, European Rollers, Bee Eaters.

I'm familiar of course with what a chameleon and stork look like and would be thrilled to see them. Having Googled the Hoopoe, European Roller and Bee Eater - wow! I'd be ecstatic to see those! Such gorgeous colours!
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Highlander on April 10, 2014, 22:26:47 PM

They're Hornets, or B52s as we used to call them.


Genius   :)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 10, 2014, 22:42:03 PM
I actually think the big, black buzzy things were these as this picture resembles the creatures I saw pretty much perfectly. And they were landing on the wooden structures and disappearing into holes within the wood.


(http://s12.postimg.org/xkdijtbhl/carpenter_bee_resting_on_my_hand.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xkdijtbhl/)

They were also very slow and cumbersome. Going to create a few screams this season on the front at Olu I think  ;D
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: paz on April 10, 2014, 22:47:14 PM
"Magpie type birds with blue wing tips" I think these would possibly be Jays. Deb
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: paz on April 10, 2014, 22:50:06 PM
......however, it could be a Magpie
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 10, 2014, 22:54:24 PM
Hmm, it does, I think, look a bit like this


(http://s14.postimg.org/u2yto5rj1/jay.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/u2yto5rj1/)

Which is listed as a jay. My Mum thought they were jays. Going to have a better look tomorrow.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 10, 2014, 22:57:21 PM
I actually think the big, black buzzy things were these as this picture resembles the creatures I saw pretty much perfectly. And they were landing on the wooden structures and disappearing into holes within the wood.


(http://s12.postimg.org/xkdijtbhl/carpenter_bee_resting_on_my_hand.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xkdijtbhl/)

They were also very slow and cumbersome. Going to create a few screams this season on the front at Olu I think  ;D


They're Carpenter Bees. Totally harmless.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 10, 2014, 22:58:21 PM
Hmm, it does, I think, look a bit like this


(http://s14.postimg.org/u2yto5rj1/jay.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/u2yto5rj1/)



Which is listed as a jay. My Mum thought they were jays. Going to have a better look tomorrow.


Yep, they're definitely Jays.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 10, 2014, 22:59:01 PM
They are amazing. Love bees.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 10, 2014, 23:17:46 PM
If you go up into the hills behind Ovacik or down to the Kaya Valley you'll see hundreds of hives. If you need to walk past them, go about 10 yards behind them as the bees are usually well above head height when they're approaching the hives from behind.

It's well worth paying the extra price to buy locally produced honey. You'll really notice the difference when compared to "shop-bought".
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: angela on April 16, 2014, 20:45:52 PM
From last year. I love the wildlife and I'm always snapping away.


(http://s29.postimg.org/bndnryrk3/004.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/bndnryrk3/)

(http://s8.postimg.org/cvxbjthnl/048.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cvxbjthnl/)

(http://s8.postimg.org/odi9p0n1d/023.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/odi9p0n1d/)

(http://s30.postimg.org/y0br3n1v1/064.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/y0br3n1v1/)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 18, 2014, 09:43:38 AM
We had one of those enormous centipedes when we were in Karagosler, it went behind a fitted unit never to be seen again.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2607435/Preying-stay-alive-Centipede-tries-eat-way-sanctuary-snakes-stomach.html
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: davybill on April 18, 2014, 12:16:43 PM
 >:(Enormous ones,how many legs did they have,Knob?lol
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 18, 2014, 12:20:37 PM
davybill, if you read the post properly you'll see the quoted text was written by Lotty. You'll have to ask her.

Now who's the Knob ?  ;)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: davybill on April 18, 2014, 13:20:17 PM
If the name fits?
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: KKOB on April 18, 2014, 13:36:26 PM
Bill "The Knob" Davy. It's got a sort of ring to it.  ;)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 18, 2014, 13:52:54 PM
Enough now guys - back on topic or we'll have to lock it.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Lotty on April 18, 2014, 18:56:25 PM
It was about 5" long but very fat and jellyish-ugh! I'm still shuddering!
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 18, 2014, 22:52:10 PM
As the actress said to the Bishop.
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Lotty on April 18, 2014, 23:04:04 PM
Or a male estimation might be 8". Lol x
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Scunner on April 18, 2014, 23:16:02 PM
And not jelly like at all  :)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: tiggsy on April 19, 2014, 07:10:48 AM
Snake in the pool……was it doing the crawl?
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Hamlet on April 19, 2014, 08:33:04 AM
How about this one then Menthol? I don't know what the name of it is but a Turkish friend said it's harmless and although it appears to have wings, it spends most of the time burrowing underground  8)
(http://s2.postimg.org/m56no8z1h/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/m56no8z1h/)

(http://s2.postimg.org/dyenwo8yt/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dyenwo8yt/)

(http://s2.postimg.org/ms5kdrvxh/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ms5kdrvxh/)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 19, 2014, 10:02:14 AM
My god, Hamlet. That is one very ugly looking creature. And huge!

Not going to show any of this thread to my youngest son. He is 6' 7", with hands like shovels and screams like a 9 year old girl at all insects ........

Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Hamlet on April 19, 2014, 19:08:07 PM
What about this one then? I was going to go out and buy a saddle for it!  8)
(http://s23.postimg.org/d2rjupn07/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/d2rjupn07/)

Take a step back from the screen if you are going to click on the photo   ;D
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Menthol on April 19, 2014, 19:31:45 PM
Jeez! Looks like it means business .....  ???



Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Lotty on April 20, 2014, 19:57:25 PM
It's got a face on its bum too! (I see faces)   ;)
Title: Re: Snake in the pool
Post by: Hamlet on April 20, 2014, 21:22:41 PM
Never spotted that Lotty! Lol  ???